"Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:50:16 -0400, Clisby Williams
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Nan wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:56:31 -0500, toto
wrote:




I breastfed both children. I think it not only saved time, but it
was so much easier than preparing bottles and carrying all kinds
of paraphanelia with me when I went out.



I've never understood the "all kinds of paraphanelia" comment, either.
I bf'd as well as bottlefed, and didn't find I had to tote all kinds
of anything when I went out.
2 bottles in my bag, and that was it.
Well, other than all the stuff *all* moms seem to need to tote....
diapers, wipes, etc in a diaper bag.



I don't get it either. I don't what people imagine you have to carry
around with
you. I always kept a couple of clean bottles and a couple of small
cans of
ready-to-feed formula in my backpack (I don't carry a purse or a diaper
bag -
everything I need goes in the backpack.) That was it for "all kinds of
paraphernalia."

Clisby

Difference in the time frame? When my children were young, we did
not have so many ready mixed things.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
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just me answered in message
m Donna Metler's
question in message
.. .
My husband claims both of us are hermits, because in general
we prefer to be at home rather than out. I really dislike crowds
(has a lot to do with being 5'1" and getting lost and run over
easily!), and he just doesn't like being around people much.
So for us, even an evening with friends is more likely to be
spent playing scrabble at someones home than out doing
something noisy. And after spending all day at work with
people, going out and spending more time with people just
is not appealing.

We're actually a little bit concerned about that for our children,
when we have them-how do you raise children who have adequate
social interaction when you don't really interact socially much?

Husband and I are both certifiable hermits. DS is a social butterfly.
There have been more than a few occasions where I had to actively
talk myself into picking up the phone to set up play dates for DS
because it meant *I* had to be social, too. I've made some nice
friends this way, but it has been real work for me to do it. I know
husband is the same way. [snip]

SWMBO loves spending quiet evenings at home, or going to a park by herself.
She would probably fit the above descriptions. G

As Aula says, setting up playdates are the best way at stimulating
socialization -- for both parties. (You'd be amazed at the number of SAHP
that feel isolated and afraid.) These playdates also control the number of
people, the places, and the costs a parent has to deal with.

The Ranger

"Corinne" wrote in message
news:ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02...
I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was
AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings."

The author of this piece apparently never considered parents of multiples.


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"Banty" wrote in message
...
And - gee, being an introvert is *not* a pathology to worry about. We
don't see
"I like hanging around with people all the time and I'm worried that my
children
will always have to have someone to entertain them and never be
comfortable by
themselves" posts. We *do* see a lot of "my four year old is shy gee what
should we do to get her 'out of her shell'" posts.



Ah, but do you remember how many p0ts we've had in the various parent/family
newsgroups about over-scheduling of children? I suspect that would fit in
the category of possibly not being able to comfortable being alone with
themselves because they've had little practice at it. But, then again, I
could be wrong.

-Aula


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On 13 Jul 2003 07:52:34 -0700, Banty wrote:

And - gee, being an introvert is *not* a pathology to worry about. We don't see
"I like hanging around with people all the time and I'm worried that my children
will always have to have someone to entertain them and never be comfortable by
themselves" posts. We *do* see a lot of "my four year old is shy gee what
should we do to get her 'out of her shell'" posts.

Actually, we have seen posts worried about children who need someone
to entertain them all the time. I am not sure that it correlates to
the parent's temperament, but who knows.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
Outer Limits

just me wrote:

"Clisby Williams" wrote in message
...

I test INTJ. It absolutely fits.

Banty

I test INTJ also.


That's three of us.


Make it 4. Although I can be an ENTJ if I try really,
really hard. Since I haven't needed to be one in awhile, I
remember how much work it is, but not that I enjoy it.

Phoebe *introvert by temperament, extrovert by sheer force
of will*

In article , cuhulain__98
@yahoo.com says...
Dawn Lawson wrote in message
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[snip]

Your choice of religion is [thankfully] not government-mandated. We chose
formula for all three of my daughter-units based on the information
available to us from sources that we felt offered more balanced opinions
than those being produced by specialty organizations.

Attempting to use the same tired, old, redundant scare tactics that we
tanked my daughter-units potential insert favorite LLL catchphrase or
produced mentally-deficient specimens because we didn't exclusively bf won't
convert us to The Cause any more than it did during that time. We chose
formula for several reasons, mostly because we saw more benefits to using
formula than breastmilk.

Um, weren't you just taking someone to task for trying to read stuff
into YOUR posts. Nothing she said was a personal slam on you, for
crying out loud.

Michelle
Flutist

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Never apart. AP with Pride!
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Xander Ryan (09/22/98 - 02/23/99)
Gareth Xander (07/17/00)
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Theona Alexis (06/03/03)

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:02:10 -0400, Clisby Williams
wrote:



toto wrote:


Difference in the time frame? When my children were young, we did
not have so many ready mixed things.


Maybe - but I still don't see how it could involve much paraphernalia.
If I hadn't had ready-to-feed formula, I could have filled the bottles of
water and taken along enough powder to mix. Or if you mean before
there was powdered formula - I could have taken along a couple of
bottles already filled with formula. At worst, I wouldn't need
it and would throw it out, but that's no big deal. It's not like I had
to carry around a portable sterilizer or something.

Clisby

Well, perhaps you didn't have to carry it around, but bf mothers
don't have to carry around breast pumps either.

Of course, I never did pump at all because I was lucky enough
to be able to stay home and/or to take my child with me to
work (consultant type work with computers) or I was able to
be away for only short times where my children (when they
were older) and could be fed solid foods and were taking
liquid from a cup.

I don't think that any mom should feel quilty about what she
chooses in this area. OTOH, I cannot see how breastfeeding
in general is more time-consuming than preparing bottles
and feeding that way because with bfeeding, you have *no*
preparation unless you are speaking of pumping.

I know some people have lots of trouble with bfeeding.
I wonder how much our stressful society contributes to that
and our insistence on speed contribute to that.

One of the things I have found in my teaching and parenting
is that the more I can untie nyself from clocks and schedules,
the better the quality of my life becomes. It is hard to do
though.











--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
Outer Limits

Clisby Williams wrote in message
...
Banty wrote:
I test INTJ. It absolutely fits.

I test INTJ also.

Another INTJ heard from. ;-)
--
Cheryl S.
Mom to Julie, 2 yr., 3 mo.
And a boy, EDD 4.Sept

Cleaning the house while your children are small is like
shoveling the sidewalk while it's still snowing.

"The Ranger" wrote in message
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Jenn wrote in message
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I am always surprised at how strongly resilient my daughter-units
are at my attempts to do what I think is best or right. Each test
often shows they will survive into adulthood despite my (and
many other well-meaning adults) book-based, doctor-supported,
new-age intentions. Go figure.

Meaning what, in the context of this discussion?

Just what it says, nothing more. If you're looking for darker meanings,
you'll have to dig up someone else's posts.

The Ranger

Hey!!! I think her question is fair. Sometimes Ranger you are not very
clear in your posting. I LOVE when you write your stories and articulate
with grand sweeping notions of life and love but in this simple posting I
wondered as well: What are you saying? g

Anni