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Old January 12th 08, 12:29 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Ron
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krp wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message
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Greegor wrote:
LK Yes. You got your cut.

RVD No, I dont. I get less than it costs me
RVD to maintain the kids. I lose out, have
RVD to pay a portion of the cost of the care
RVD of these kids out of my own pocket.

Christ complex Ron?

Facts gregg. But then you already know that.


Hey Ronny want a "LINK?"

YOURS is MISSING!


No kenny, you ARE the missing link. We could only hope, along with your
customers, that you go missing.

Ron

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Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****!

Proof at:

www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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Old January 12th 08, 12:40 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Ron
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krp wrote:
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Rarely the case. Bashing is pretty easy to recognize, and moving a
foster child from a home like that takes less than a day.

Foster parents on an adoption tract are usually very open about that,
there are even special programs within the CPS system for individuals
who want to adopt from the system. Typically children are not placed
with these types of individuals unless TPR and adoption are what the
system has firmly in mind for the kids. Even then it does not always
happen, sometimes the parents actually get their **** together in time
to prevent it, or find an attorney that knows what he/she is doing and
how to prevent these things.


A foster parent on an adoption tract is usually someone who gets more
disappointment than satisfaction.

(snip relavent facts)


In addition if we want ANY case study on ADOPTION - mean ANY case
that rips off the veneer of BULL**** surrounding it we can look at the
history of he "Baby Jessica" case and look CLOSELY at the behavior of the
DeBoers. In THAT you have your TYPICAL adoptive or foster family shown
bare for what they are. NOTHING - absolutely NOTHING is as telling as the
video shot by Katie Couric of NBC of the day of the turnover of the girl
to her REAL parents! And NO -0 Ronny the DeBoers were NEVER her "REAL
PARENTS." Not even close.


"The baby wasn't turned over to "parents," But to the father because the
mother placed the child with the family for adoption, a private
adoption, without informing the father of the child's existence.


As usual your "FACTS" are wrong. Actually "Jessica" was turned over to a
social worker and then BOTH PARENTS because they had married by that time,
you are NOT in ANY way, Ron, entitled to your own FACTS. The child was taken
by a LAWYER (see adoption RACKET) in the hospital the DeBoers did NOT come
to take her. The child was given to the DeBoers (FOR MONEY $$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$) later. As in SOLD to the highest bidder! Ain't that
SPECIAL?

Children who are adopted through the state in similar circumstances have
the rights of any missing parent, after legal search proceedings to find
that person, terminated by the court. There is no "do-overs.""


Sorry Ron your "FACTS" again somewhat vary from REALITY!

"Let me see now, this is a guy that claims to be an expert, with
graduate degrees Cum Laude, and he can't even be bothered to look up a
case for facts before trying to use it to make his argument.

Baby Jessica was a private adoption. Never a foster child. It was not a
state managed adoption. The mother tricked the adoptive parents and the
biological father." Try getting your facts right, for once.


Baby Jessica is a case about ADOPTION Ronny. I even emphasized ADOPTION
by capitalizing it so a MORON like YOU wouldn't miss it, but you did, or at
least PRETEND to have missed it and you want to cloud this about FOSTER
CARE. I said "ADOPTION" Ronny. Not foster care, although both can be tarred
by extension by that case.

I am VERY familiar with the Baby Jessica case. Now LET'S PLEASE look at
the FACTS, shall we? Or I bet YOU don't want to.

Baby "Jessica" was born in Iowa. The child was SOLD to the DeBoers who
had the $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$ who lived in Michigan. The father
upon finding out that the child was born (mom had lied and told him she had
a miscarriage) filed an action to block the IOWA adoption and gain custody
of his child (within the Iowa LAW). The Deboers opposed his position. (He
filed within 30 days of the baby's birth). They LOST at trial. They
appealed. they LOST at the appeal in Iowa, They appealed to the Iowa Supreme
Court and LOST. They went to a Michigan judge and LOST. They SHOPPED and
SHOPPED for a Judge in Michigan who would take their side. They won. The
PARENTS (then married) appealed and WON. The Deboers appealed to the
Michigan Supreme court and LOST. They then went to federal court and LOST,
then appealed and LOST then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court and LOST. hey
REFUSED to surrender the child.

The entire saga of Baby "Jessica's" last days with the DeBoers was done
on video by Katie Couric of NBC. From my point of view it documents the
systematic mind screwing of the child by the DeBoers, primarily by Mrs.
DeBoer. It shows HOW they worked the child up to a frenzy just as the social
worker came to pick the child up in the desperate hope that if they got the
child worked up enough they could still win.

To MY point of view the case illustrates what is wrong with adoption in
America. There have been many other "Baby Jessica" cases that have been
dragged out for YEAR after YEAR in the courts by less than good adoptive
parents. In MY opinion the DeBoers should NEVER be allowed to have a child.
I think that Mrs. DeBoer PROVES that God had a good point when he didn't let
her have children. The cynical use of the legal system to delay the return
of the child to her parents was bad enough. The deliberate and HIGHLY
CALCULATED mind screwing of the child to WIN BY ANY MEANS even if they had
to destroy the child's mind and soul to WIN the PROPERTY pretty well DAMNS
this who corrupt system that facilitates that crap. Please do NOT try to
tell me she loved the child. It won't sell, nobody who loved a child would
do those things to the child. The DeBoers lawyers told them that they would
lose back at the start. They CHOSE the path they did knowing it. Which is
why they have their website today.

Yeah Ron - we need to talk about FACTS. Older and wiser laws made
adoption a process that wasn't final for a year. That way authorities could
check up to see that the fit was working. Now they WINK at abuse. Just to
get the cases completed. HURRY HURRY. Forget the young mothers BLACKMAILED
into giving up their kids, being COERCED to sign adoption forms even while
DRUGGED and they don't know what they are signing. It's YOUR System Ronny,
and it STINKS and I am against it, so you can Danny can try to attack me
through my daughter and show us how SOLID your arguments are. You always
have David Moore's website Ronny. That REALLY proves me wrong, don't it? IN
YOUR WET DREAMS BOZO!


Kenny kenny kenny, I know that the truth is the very last thing that you
ever think of, but must you take so long in the telling of all those lies?

The only valid point you have is the one under your hat. The rest is
unsupported drivel. Please, feel free to support your "thoughts" (and I
use the term quite loosely), with data. I wont hold my breath, but then
again the entire news group has learned to avoid this.

Ron
--
Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****!

Proof at:

www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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Old January 12th 08, 11:24 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,soc.men
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"Ron" wrote in message
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Yeah Ron - we need to talk about FACTS. Older and wiser laws made
adoption a process that wasn't final for a year. That way authorities
could check up to see that the fit was working. Now they WINK at abuse.
Just to get the cases completed. HURRY HURRY. Forget the young mothers
BLACKMAILED into giving up their kids, being COERCED to sign adoption
forms even while DRUGGED and they don't know what they are signing. It's
YOUR System Ronny, and it STINKS and I am against it, so you can Danny
can try to attack me through my daughter and show us how SOLID your
arguments are. You always have David Moore's website Ronny. That REALLY
proves me wrong, don't it? IN YOUR WET DREAMS BOZO!


Kenny kenny kenny, I know that the truth is the very last thing that you
ever think of, but must you take so long in the telling of all those lies?


Well Ronny - more and more I am starting to ignore your bull****. Your
IDIOTIC claims tyhat the things I have detailed above don't happen are just
further examples of your tendency to LIE your ass off. It's simple Ronny
BABY you can vist the many site of the anti-adoption web ring. Your claims
that young women are NOT blackmailed, by parents, preachers, doctors and
others to give up their babies is the claim of a CRETIN! And that label fits
YOU so well Ronny! You are the consumate WHORE for CPS and the adoption
RACKET! Lagalized BABY SELLING! I'd suggest you research some of the cases
that have hit the news of adoption battles before you make your sweeping
bull**** claims..

http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=antiadoption

I just LOVE it Ronny when you go into HIGH GEAR LYING... The bull**** just
drips off your lying lips Ronny. (figuratively)

http://www.exiledmothers.com/

We are mothers who lost our babies to the adoption industry in both closed
adoptions and "open" adoptions.
NONE of us willingly surrendered our children.
None of us "gave them away."
Our babies were NOT gifts.
They were NOT "unwanted."

I don't know how somebody could possibly be AS full of **** as YOU are
Ronny! You must WORK at it very hard.

Anyone can do a search on the anti adoption webring and see documentation of
what *I* have said.



 




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