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"firedancer623" wrote in message news:xpWbd.309$EL5.129@trndny09... "newfy.1" wrote in message ... "firedancer623" wrote in message news:gKUbd.441$Ug4.389@trndny01... Please no reponses how it's my duty as a US citizen, heh, I've wanted to leave this country for years now (can't convince dh) Well, then I guess I can't comment...seriously though, you get the summons very far in advance. I cannot imagine that a person can't find ANY childcare in the time that passes when you receive the summons to the time that the date comes up. That's good to know. For some reason, I was under the impression that I'd get a summons and then have to start the next week. If I had to, I could have my mom come up for a few days and hopefully that would be enough time otherwise, my husband would probably have to take personal time off work. Certainly here in Santa Clara, CA that's how it works, but you don't get the notice that sometime this year you'll be picked. Here there is also a box to check that gets you off if you are a care giver for others (children, elderly) which even counted for school aged kids. I remember checking that when my kids were in 1st grade or so. Last time I was called my husband wasn't working (taking a sabbatical) so I went. Well I have a few medical issues which I've heard can also cause a dismissal since one is anxiety related. In the courts I've served that has a decent chance of getting you excused, but you have to show up one day to tell the judge. I highly doubt I'll get chosen because, as noted in the first post, I dont hold much regard for our government and the judicial system. Im sure that will come across if I make it that far. This one is tricky. I've seen many people use this excuse, and I have yet to see a judge just send them home. They always get a very public tongue lashing by the judge. They may or may not get excused from that particular case. If they are excused they are then sent back to the pool to get to try again in another case with another judge. If they aren't they probably won't get on the case, but they need to show up everyday for a week until the lawyers have a chance to dismiss them without cause. I have heard of one case where the judge offered to revoke their citizenship and deport them immediately. That's one way to push your husband into moving... |
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"Cathy Kearns" wrote: "firedancer623" wrote in message news:xpWbd.309$EL5.129@trndny09... "newfy.1" wrote in message ... "firedancer623" wrote in message news:gKUbd.441$Ug4.389@trndny01... Please no reponses how it's my duty as a US citizen, heh, I've wanted to leave this country for years now (can't convince dh) Well, then I guess I can't comment...seriously though, you get the summons very far in advance. I cannot imagine that a person can't find ANY childcare in the time that passes when you receive the summons to the time that the date comes up. That's good to know. For some reason, I was under the impression that I'd get a summons and then have to start the next week. If I had to, I could have my mom come up for a few days and hopefully that would be enough time otherwise, my husband would probably have to take personal time off work. Certainly here in Santa Clara, CA that's how it works, but you don't get the notice that sometime this year you'll be picked. Here there is also a box to check that gets you off if you are a care giver for others (children, elderly) which even counted for school aged kids. I remember checking that when my kids were in 1st grade or so. Last time I was called my husband wasn't working (taking a sabbatical) so I went. Well I have a few medical issues which I've heard can also cause a dismissal since one is anxiety related. In the courts I've served that has a decent chance of getting you excused, but you have to show up one day to tell the judge. I highly doubt I'll get chosen because, as noted in the first post, I dont hold much regard for our government and the judicial system. Im sure that will come across if I make it that far. This one is tricky. I've seen many people use this excuse, and I have yet to see a judge just send them home. They always get a very public tongue lashing by the judge. They may or may not get excused from that particular case. If they are excused they are then sent back to the pool to get to try again in another case with another judge. If they aren't they probably won't get on the case, but they need to show up everyday for a week until the lawyers have a chance to dismiss them without cause. I have heard of one case where the judge offered to revoke their citizenship and deport them immediately. That's one way to push your husband into moving... Some of this will also vary depending upon WHICH court your are being called to. There are differences between federal and state laws, and (of course) between the various state's laws. In Mass, you were called for one day or one trial. Here in CA, you are called for a week -- but you phone in each evening to find out whether or not you have to turn up the next day. Personally, I find that week pretty aggravating, and would prefer to have one day where I KNOW I'm going to have to show up instead of having to keep everything critical on hold for a full week. So far, I've had two weeks where I never had to show up, and one where I showed up for a day and got as far as the courtroom, but my number never got high enough to make it into the jury box. Growing up, I somehow figured 3 things would make me a growup: donating blood, serving on a jury, and voting. I had hepatitis when I was 15, so they don't want my blood. I've never served on a jury -- I still hope to one day. I DO vote regularly -- so I supposed I'm only 1/3 grownup. -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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"firedancer623" wrote in message news:xpWbd.309$EL5.129@trndny09... "newfy.1" wrote in message ... "firedancer623" wrote in message news:gKUbd.441$Ug4.389@trndny01... Please no reponses how it's my duty as a US citizen, heh, I've wanted to leave this country for years now (can't convince dh) snipped... .. I highly doubt I'll get chosen because, as noted in the first post, I dont hold much regard for our government and the judicial system. Im sure that will come across if I make it that far. This is going to be a really personal question and you really are very welcome to ignore it (particularly from a complete stranger) but I was curious to know where in the world you think it would be better - and what specifically you think is unfair in the USA. I live in Australia so our systems are fairly similar I would imagine and although it falls down sometimes, I suppose I feel that on average it is reasonably fair to most people. We have legal aid for those who cannot afford legal representation although, as in real life, those with money seem to do better than others (I speak from personal experience on this where we lost a case in these kind of circumstances so I'm not being idealistic about this). I would certainly feel it my duty to serve on jury duty - I would probably also whinge and complain about the hassle of it. We dont have capital punishment which I think is better but there is a diversity of opinion on this here. We have complusory voting here for 3 different tiers of government - I have always felt it to be a good thing to insist that everyone uses their opportunity to participate in electing the government. I'm always reminded of Winston Churchill who said that democracy wasnt a very good system of government, it was just better than the alternative (or words to that effect). I suppose I agree - our system isnt perfect but I am happy to live under it. I am curious to hear more about how you feel about your system although as I said, this is very personal stuff so feel free to ignore. cheers Leah Lane |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:36:30 GMT, "A & L Lane"
wrote: "firedancer623" wrote in message news:xpWbd.309$EL5.129@trndny09... "newfy.1" wrote in message ... "firedancer623" wrote in message news:gKUbd.441$Ug4.389@trndny01... Please no reponses how it's my duty as a US citizen, heh, I've wanted to leave this country for years now (can't convince dh) snipped... . I highly doubt I'll get chosen because, as noted in the first post, I dont hold much regard for our government and the judicial system. Im sure that will come across if I make it that far. This is going to be a really personal question and you really are very welcome to ignore it (particularly from a complete stranger) but I was curious to know where in the world you think it would be better - and what specifically you think is unfair in the USA. I live in Australia so our systems are fairly similar I would imagine and although it falls down sometimes, I suppose I feel that on average it is reasonably fair to most people. I was thinking the same thing. Germany certainly has a jury system where everyone is called, as does France, and I asuume most of western Europe. I suspect that anyplace in the world where I couldnt get a "trial by my peers" or close to it would not attract me. W Barb cheers Leah Lane |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:52:03 GMT, "firedancer623"
wrote: Where do I begin? Seriously, it's not just the jury duty, it's the entire government at the moment. I think the entire judicial system is whacked for a lack of a better term. My husband served 11 years in the Navy and it was ridiculous how poorly he was treated, how we were treated (granted, it may have just been our location and duty station) but it left us with a bad taste in our mouths. We're paying out the wazoo for health care, the media, it's a lot of things. Im a far left liberal and with the elections almost upon us, Im terrified of something in our country not changing. The direction in which we have been going is mind boggling - at least to me. I've been trying to get us to relocate to Canada for a few years now. My husband can do a direct transfer right across the Lake (Ontario) from the power plant he now works at to Pickering. He doesn't want the hassle of immigration and having to switch over citizenships, sell the house and possible get rid of our beloved pets. He also loves where he works although he's pretty disgusted with the US for the same reasons as I am. And if you receive the same kind of letter and are required to serve in Canada (which certainly has a similar system?) Personally I live in Germny for the moment but am an American citizen and always will be. |
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Where do I begin? Seriously, it's not just the jury duty, it's the entire
government at the moment. I think the entire judicial system is whacked for a lack of a better term. My husband served 11 years in the Navy and it was ridiculous how poorly he was treated, how we were treated (granted, it may have just been our location and duty station) but it left us with a bad taste in our mouths. We're paying out the wazoo for health care, the media, it's a lot of things. Im a far left liberal and with the elections almost upon us, Im terrified of something in our country not changing. The direction in which we have been going is mind boggling - at least to me. I've been trying to get us to relocate to Canada for a few years now. My husband can do a direct transfer right across the Lake (Ontario) from the power plant he now works at to Pickering. He doesn't want the hassle of immigration and having to switch over citizenships, sell the house and possible get rid of our beloved pets. He also loves where he works although he's pretty disgusted with the US for the same reasons as I am. Kari Why would you have to give up your US citizenship to live in Canada? I've been in the US (off and on) since 1978 and still have my Canadian citizenship. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:22:07 GMT, "firedancer623"
scribbled: I've always wondered about that. Sure I know it's a possibility but I've never heard of anyone going to jail for refusing. A summons to jury duty is a judicial summons. If you don't show up, you are in contempt of court and a warrant will be issued for you. I've known 2 people that got arrested for it. That's fine. It's just one of the many reasons I don't feel our freedom is really *free* Well, it certainly isn't free considering those that put their lives on the line so you can live "free". There *is* a cost. Nan |
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"firedancer623" wrote in message news:xpWbd.309$EL5.129@trndny09... Well I have a few medical issues which I've heard can also cause a dismissal since one is anxiety related. If that isn't enough, in combination with the SAHM w/no childcare then I suppose I will have to figure out. I highly doubt I'll get chosen because, as noted in the first post, I dont hold much regard for our government and the judicial system. Im sure that will come across if I make it that far. FWIW, my dismissal was completely random. You call the night before, listen to a list of names, if yours is on it then you're out. JennP. |
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"Barbara Bomberger" wrote in message ... I suspect that anyplace in the world where I couldnt get a "trial by my peers" or close to it would not attract me. W You mean you'd rather have no trial? |
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