Homocide rates and its correlation to spanking rates

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?

I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-


So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!

Were is the data you claim exists?

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)

Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?

If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?

I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!

Decades of research establish it.

I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "

AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

0:-

--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?

I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

You are disproving a negative? How you gonna prove spanking equate with
violence when you don't have the data on spanking rates?

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-

I notice that you are resorting to adhom again. ;-)


So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!

Were is the data you claim exists?

I've never claim that, STUPID!

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Another lie. Please point out where I said that?

Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Then you can easily point it out to me now, can you? If not, then you
have just proven to everyone again that YOU ARE A LIAR!

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)

Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

Hahaha!

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?

If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

Hahaha! So she was never spanked???

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?

I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

So I didn't make such claim.

Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

Still being stupid I see. ;-)

When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!

Decades of research establish it.

Hahaha! That's not proof stupid!

I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "

Hihihi!

AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

And too bad that you were born so STUPID! Maybe bad genes? ;-)

AF

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?
I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

You are disproving a negative?

Yes, one cannot prove a negative, but they can DISprove it.

How you gonna prove spanking equate with
violence when you don't have the data on spanking rates?

Why by using YOUR claims, Doan. Don't you stand up for them as accurate?

0:-

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-

I notice that you are resorting to adhom again. ;-)

What ad hom is there in notice you are avoiding rotten bananas? 0:-

Notice you did not deny avoiding the real question.


So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!
Were is the data you claim exists?

I've never claim that, STUPID!

Sure you have. 90% remember. You posted the study results.

My my my, you are getting friend aren't you, little boy. Root some more
for a taste of honey.

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Another lie. Please point out where I said that?

I see. I'M supposed to provide proofs after you have refused to hundreds
of times. R R R R R

You used the Straus study to claim that there was actually an
improvement in the spanked population studies.

Have you forgotten? 0:-

Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Then you can easily point it out to me now, can you? If not, then you
have just proven to everyone again that YOU ARE A LIAR!

That would make YOU one, because I have repeatedly asked YOU to point to
proof of your claims and you have refused to do so.

And I just DID point to the proof of mine.

Tell everyone you never used the Straus study to claim that spanking
correlated with improved behavior. Go ahead, I dare you.

You'll have those of us that know you and have for years, rolling on the
floor laughing our asses off at you.

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)
Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

Hahaha!

Nervous laughter at being caught with your pants down?

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?
If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

Hahaha! So she was never spanked???

Well, prove the claim, stupid. Show us where anything says she was spanked.

You have such a fixation on your sick little agenda that you presume
that all people in certain categories were in fact spanked.

Did you read her biography? What did it say about her upbringing and how
gentle it was? Where did it indicate ANY chance she was spanked?

Or do you want NOW to go with your 90% claim and give up your prior
challenge to me to find some "data?" YOU provide the data, stupid.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?
I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

So I didn't make such claim.

Did I say you did?

So you aren't making the claim so you don't have to defend it.

Do you think this man was spanked....given you are or are not in defense
of the 90% spanked claim, and he was a Christian? Give it a shot, and
stand up like a man for once and be accounted for your beliefs.

0:-



Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

Still being stupid I see. ;-)

Nope. Notice I just showed that you were dodging?

When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!
Decades of research establish it.

Hahaha! That's not proof stupid!

Sure it is. What do YOU use for proof?

I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "

Hihihi!
AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

And too bad that you were born so STUPID! Maybe bad genes? ;-)

AF

Genes are neither bad nor good, stupid monkeyboy.

There's even monkeys that are smart for their kind, monkeyboy.

You've recently shown your stupidity in ways even I could not imagine
you'd be stupid enough to try.

0:-




--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?
I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

You are disproving a negative?

Yes, one cannot prove a negative, but they can DISprove it.

Hahaha! Disprove a negative?

How you gonna prove spanking equate with
violence when you don't have the data on spanking rates?

Why by using YOUR claims, Doan. Don't you stand up for them as accurate?

I didn't make any claim with regard to spanking, STUPID!

0:-

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-

I notice that you are resorting to adhom again. ;-)

What ad hom is there in notice you are avoiding rotten bananas? 0:-

Are you saying that you are rotten bananas? ;-)

Notice you did not deny avoiding the real question.

I stated that you are STUPID, did I not? ;-)


So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!
Were is the data you claim exists?

I've never claim that, STUPID!

Sure you have. 90% remember. You posted the study results.

So spanking rates are available???

My my my, you are getting friend aren't you, little boy. Root some more
for a taste of honey.

Hahaha! Lie some more to make your mother proud!

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Another lie. Please point out where I said that?

I see. I'M supposed to provide proofs after you have refused to hundreds
of times. R R R R R

I see that you can't. That's proof that you are a liar! ;-)

You used the Straus study to claim that there was actually an
improvement in the spanked population studies.

No. I pointed out that the "never-spanked" population in Straus study
were actually spanked. Straus already admitted that error.

"Data from other studies indicate that many of these children are likely
to have experienced frequent CP, even though not in the week prior to the
study. Thus, because ALMOST ALL American children experienced CP, although
to varying degrees...."

Have you forgotten? 0:-

Nope. I remember clearly since I am not a liar like you.


Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Then you can easily point it out to me now, can you? If not, then you
have just proven to everyone again that YOU ARE A LIAR!

That would make YOU one, because I have repeatedly asked YOU to point to
proof of your claims and you have refused to do so.

I just did!

And I just DID point to the proof of mine.

LIAR!

Tell everyone you never used the Straus study to claim that spanking
correlated with improved behavior. Go ahead, I dare you.

I just did, LIAR!

You'll have those of us that know you and have for years, rolling on the
floor laughing our asses off at you.

You must be lonely! ;-)

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)
Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

Hahaha!

Nervous laughter at being caught with your pants down?

Hahaha! I am just giving you the proper salute! ;-)

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?
If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

Hahaha! So she was never spanked???

Well, prove the claim, stupid. Show us where anything says she was spanked.

90%+. Q.E.D

You have such a fixation on your sick little agenda that you presume
that all people in certain categories were in fact spanked.

I am just playing the odds. It's a fact that 90%+ are spanked. You are
the exception! ;-)

Did you read her biography? What did it say about her upbringing and how
gentle it was? Where did it indicate ANY chance she was spanked?

90%+

Or do you want NOW to go with your 90% claim and give up your prior
challenge to me to find some "data?" YOU provide the data, stupid.

I just did, STUPID!

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?
I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

So I didn't make such claim.

Did I say you did?

So?

So you aren't making the claim so you don't have to defend it.

So why asked me?

Do you think this man was spanked....given you are or are not in defense
of the 90% spanked claim, and he was a Christian? Give it a shot, and
stand up like a man for once and be accounted for your beliefs.

I already said there is a 90%+ that he was, just like there is a 90%+
that Mother Theresa were spanked!

0:-



Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

Still being stupid I see. ;-)

Nope. Notice I just showed that you were dodging?

Notice that I just showed that you are STUPID! ;-)

When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!
Decades of research establish it.

Hahaha! That's not proof stupid!

Sure it is. What do YOU use for proof?

The researchers can't establish causal factor yet. Therefore, it's no
proof, STUPID. In fact, the correlation for non-cp alternatives are
even stronger than spanking under the same condition. Have you read
Straus & Mouradina (1998)?

I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "

Hihihi!
AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

And too bad that you were born so STUPID! Maybe bad genes? ;-)

AF

Genes are neither bad nor good, stupid monkeyboy.

There are bad genes and good genes, stupid "never-spanked" boy!

There's even monkeys that are smart for their kind, monkeyboy.

They are smarter than you! ;-)

You've recently shown your stupidity in ways even I could not imagine
you'd be stupid enough to try.

Another STUPID statement! ;-0

AF

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?
I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

You are disproving a negative?
Yes, one cannot prove a negative, but they can DISprove it.

Hahaha! Disprove a negative?

You didn't study logic, did you, Doan?

How you gonna prove spanking equate with
violence when you don't have the data on spanking rates?
Why by using YOUR claims, Doan. Don't you stand up for them as accurate?

I didn't make any claim with regard to spanking, STUPID!

R R R R .....Ever, Doan?

Heck, you even reposted them. You've posted the 90%+ spanking approval
rate before, stupid boy.

0:-

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-

I notice that you are resorting to adhom again. ;-)
What ad hom is there in notice you are avoiding rotten bananas? 0:-

Are you saying that you are rotten bananas? ;-)

Are you saying you've been avoiding me?

Notice you did not deny avoiding the real question.

I stated that you are STUPID, did I not? ;-)

Thanks for the affirmative answer to my question.

So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!
Were is the data you claim exists?

I've never claim that, STUPID!
Sure you have. 90% remember. You posted the study results.

So spanking rates are available???

Approval rates are. And YOU have quoted the study that said 90%+ of
professionals were reporting they were spanked. Did you not?

My my my, you are getting friend aren't you, little boy. Root some more
for a taste of honey.

Hahaha! Lie some more to make your mother proud!

0:-

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Another lie. Please point out where I said that?
I see. I'M supposed to provide proofs after you have refused to hundreds
of times. R R R R R

I see that you can't. That's proof that you are a liar! ;-)

Then we'll have to assume YOU can't, because you certainly didn't.

You used the Straus study to claim that there was actually an
improvement in the spanked population studies.

No. I pointed out that the "never-spanked" population in Straus study
were actually spanked. Straus already admitted that error.

No, you pointed also to the fact that this population that WERE spanked,
just as you said about, were the better behaved. Stop lying, Doan.

"Data from other studies indicate that many of these children are likely
to have experienced frequent CP, even though not in the week prior to the
study. Thus, because ALMOST ALL American children experienced CP, although
to varying degrees...."

And what was the outcome that you claimed again about their improvement
in social behaviors for those with the lowest incidence of spanking, Doan?

Have you forgotten? 0:-

Nope. I remember clearly since I am not a liar like you.

Well apparently you are, because it was a favorite argument of yours.

Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Then you can easily point it out to me now, can you? If not, then you
have just proven to everyone again that YOU ARE A LIAR!
That would make YOU one, because I have repeatedly asked YOU to point to
proof of your claims and you have refused to do so.

I just did!

Nope. You left off the part where you indeed pointed out that those
children behaved better that were spanked LESS, but of course were spanked.

Bad memory, or just lying, Doan?

And I just DID point to the proof of mine.

LIAR!

Google "Doan" and "Straus" in aps and read up on what you have said.

Tell everyone you never used the Straus study to claim that spanking
correlated with improved behavior. Go ahead, I dare you.

I just did, LIAR!

I know you just did, and it was a lie.

Do the google in Usenet, stupid boy, and read up on Doan the Liar.

You'll have those of us that know you and have for years, rolling on the
floor laughing our asses off at you.

You must be lonely! ;-)

non sequitur -- no one is here but my faithful sentry dogs.

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)
Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

Hahaha!
Nervous laughter at being caught with your pants down?

Hahaha! I am just giving you the proper salute! ;-)

Then you admit to your exposing yourself as a liar. Thanks.

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?
If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

Hahaha! So she was never spanked???
Well, prove the claim, stupid. Show us where anything says she was spanked.

90%+. Q.E.D

Q.E.D.?

Show us the demonstrated part of your claim. That some, or even 99.9%
were spanked is not "proof" that she was. Q.E.D. indeed. R R R R R R

Or don't you really know your Latin? Most monkeys don't.

That is proof?

Isn't there a 10% chance she wasn't?

What proof can you provide (not a percentage related to chance) that she
was not among the ten percent?

Her bio reads like that of most children raised by parents that don't
spank. Her father was dead. Her mother most kindly.

I will not be so foolish as to try and convince you with an inapplicable
Latin label.

I simply know you have no proof, and I have her life story. Nothing
indicates she was spanked, and much indicates it as unlikely.

Try again.

You have such a fixation on your sick little agenda that you presume
that all people in certain categories were in fact spanked.

I am just playing the odds. It's a fact that 90%+ are spanked. You are
the exception! ;-)

I didn't ask for the odds. I asked for the proof. Some argument that
would support your claim that applies to THIS specific person.

Was SHE spanked. If so where in her story would you find something that
would indicate it likely?

Was her mother authoritarian? Rigid? Demanding?

The only "demand" I saw here mother ever give her was to follow her own
calling as the mother remembered it from her early years...to go out and
help others.

Did you read her biography? What did it say about her upbringing and how
gentle it was? Where did it indicate ANY chance she was spanked?

90%+

R R R R ....10%.

She could be among the .001percent for that matter. Odds are not proof.
Odds aren't even a good argument on such a subject.

Spanking is a chance event, Doan. It's chosen.

So percentages don't apply. Never have.

Or do you want NOW to go with your 90% claim and give up your prior
challenge to me to find some "data?" YOU provide the data, stupid.

I just did, STUPID!

But you have said that you never used this data for argument. Is that
not, 0:- correct?

A 90% likelihood she was spanked? Against her life story that shows a
very kindly and gentle mother? And no father at all, after he died?


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?
I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

So I didn't make such claim.
Did I say you did?

So?

So would you like to make the claim? Or are you dodging even though you
decided to engage on this topic?

So you aren't making the claim so you don't have to defend it.

So why asked me?

Because I want to.

Why answer?

Do you think this man was spanked....given you are or are not in defense
of the 90% spanked claim, and he was a Christian? Give it a shot, and
stand up like a man for once and be accounted for your beliefs.

I already said there is a 90%+ that he was, just like there is a 90%+
that Mother Theresa were spanked!

No, there are not even in the same category. He's not just like M.
Theresa. Not even 10% like her.

There is a 90% chance he was, but a very very slight chance M.Theresa was.

She had no father after he died young, and her mother was very kindly.

His story is one that ended violently.

Hers is not.


0:-


Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

Still being stupid I see. ;-)
Nope. Notice I just showed that you were dodging?

Notice that I just showed that you are STUPID! ;-)

By not accepting "odds" as "proof" for M. Theresa?

I'll accept them for the killer though, readily.

We've nothing but this bit of news to read about him.

About M. Theresa we have her biography. You failed to answer if you read
it. If you have not well then I guess we are just stuck, because unlike
you, and other evasive and clever little liars, I don't cite something
that can't be seen here in this medium.

Would you like me to provide you an URL, or can you use your tail to tap
out the letters for a search on your little monkey keyboard?



When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!
Decades of research establish it.

Hahaha! That's not proof stupid!
Sure it is. What do YOU use for proof?

The researchers can't establish causal factor yet.

Researchers in many fields fail to establish causal relationships yet
we, as a society go on and prosper by accepting the strong correlations
they find. We are still, as you may recall, debating what the Universe
is really made up of.

Yet here it is, just a workin' away with us as part of it.

That's correlation enough for me. How about you?

Therefore, it's no
proof, STUPID.

Correlations are never proof? And you know this? Yet you asked me for
proof, as in "Then proved it?" [sic]

That's kind of stupid, isn't it?

In fact, the correlation for non-cp alternatives are
even stronger than spanking under the same condition. Have you read
Straus & Mouradina (1998)?

Funny you should ask. But you misspelled a name if we are thinking of
the same study.

When you have lost and argument you seem to develop this S&M twitch.

Let's play again, monkeyboy.

So, "the correlation for non-cp alternatives are even strong than
spanking under the same condition" for WHAT outcome?

You didn't really say anything there, boy.

I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "
Hihihi!
AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

And too bad that you were born so STUPID! Maybe bad genes? ;-)

AF
Genes are neither bad nor good, stupid monkeyboy.

There are bad genes and good genes, stupid "never-spanked" boy!

Really? Describe each.

And by whose definition?

There's even monkeys that are smart for their kind, monkeyboy.

They are smarter than you! ;-)

Not this one, stupid.


You've recently shown your stupidity in ways even I could not imagine
you'd be stupid enough to try.

Another STUPID statement! ;-0

Oh, you know then what I'm referring to, eh?

AF

0:-

--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
Where are the spanking rates, Kane? So that we can see the "correlation"?
So, what ARE the spanking rates so we can prove NO correlation, stupid?

HAHAHA! You can't prove a NEGATIVE, STUPID!
And, stupid, you can't prove anything without available data.

Hahaha! So where is the correlation you claimed?
I am disproving something, stupid. That non-spanking does not equate
with violence in the child, and spanking does.

You are disproving a negative?
Yes, one cannot prove a negative, but they can DISprove it.

Hahaha! Disprove a negative?

You didn't study logic, did you, Doan?

You are stupid, aren't you, Kane? ;-0

How you gonna prove spanking equate with
violence when you don't have the data on spanking rates?
Why by using YOUR claims, Doan. Don't you stand up for them as accurate?

I didn't make any claim with regard to spanking, STUPID!

R R R R .....Ever, Doan?

Hihihi! No.

Heck, you even reposted them. You've posted the 90%+ spanking approval
rate before, stupid boy.

I posted facts but made no claim about them, stupid never-spanked boy!

0:-

I notice you are avoiding, like a rotten banana, the real questions
here. 0:-

I notice that you are resorting to adhom again. ;-)
What ad hom is there in notice you are avoiding rotten bananas? 0:-

Are you saying that you are rotten bananas? ;-)

Are you saying you've been avoiding me?

So you are rotten bananas? Yes, I hate rotten bananas! ;-)

Notice you did not deny avoiding the real question.

I stated that you are STUPID, did I not? ;-)

Thanks for the affirmative answer to my question.

Thanks for confirming that you are STUPID!

So, tell us who is keeping spanking rates data, ****ant?

I **** into your mouth! You were the one that claim correlation when no
such data exist, STUPID!
Were is the data you claim exists?

I've never claim that, STUPID!
Sure you have. 90% remember. You posted the study results.

So spanking rates are available???

Approval rates are. And YOU have quoted the study that said 90%+ of
professionals were reporting they were spanked. Did you not?

Approval and spanking rates are two different things, STUPID!

My my my, you are getting friend aren't you, little boy. Root some more
for a taste of honey.

Hahaha! Lie some more to make your mother proud!

0:-

Hihihi!

Doan, you have been supporting others, and claiming yourself, a
correlation between spanking an GOOD social behavior.

Another lie. Please point out where I said that?
I see. I'M supposed to provide proofs after you have refused to hundreds
of times. R R R R R

I see that you can't. That's proof that you are a liar! ;-)

Then we'll have to assume YOU can't, because you certainly didn't.

Don't assume! ;-)

You used the Straus study to claim that there was actually an
improvement in the spanked population studies.

No. I pointed out that the "never-spanked" population in Straus study
were actually spanked. Straus already admitted that error.

No, you pointed also to the fact that this population that WERE spanked,
just as you said about, were the better behaved. Stop lying, Doan.

You are the stupid liar! Straus is one that said they were better
behaved! I just pointed out that they were spanked!

"Data from other studies indicate that many of these children are likely
to have experienced frequent CP, even though not in the week prior to the
study. Thus, because ALMOST ALL American children experienced CP, although
to varying degrees...."

And what was the outcome that you claimed again about their improvement
in social behaviors for those with the lowest incidence of spanking, Doan?

Are you saying that the spanking make them improved?


Have you forgotten? 0:-

Nope. I remember clearly since I am not a liar like you.

Well apparently you are, because it was a favorite argument of yours.

Well apparentely you are STUPID!

Give up the lies, dummy. Your posting history is available.

Then you can easily point it out to me now, can you? If not, then you
have just proven to everyone again that YOU ARE A LIAR!
That would make YOU one, because I have repeatedly asked YOU to point to
proof of your claims and you have refused to do so.

I just did!

Nope. You left off the part where you indeed pointed out that those
children behaved better that were spanked LESS, but of course were spanked.

No. I pointed out the supposed "never-spanked" group were actually
spanked!

Bad memory, or just lying, Doan?

Showing your stupidity again, Kane? ;-)

And I just DID point to the proof of mine.

LIAR!

Google "Doan" and "Straus" in aps and read up on what you have said.

Google "Kane" and "LIAR" in aps and read up on what you said.

Tell everyone you never used the Straus study to claim that spanking
correlated with improved behavior. Go ahead, I dare you.

I just did, LIAR!

I know you just did, and it was a lie.

No. The stupid liar is you!

Do the google in Usenet, stupid boy, and read up on Doan the Liar.

It showed up that you are the liar! ;-)

You'll have those of us that know you and have for years, rolling on the
floor laughing our asses off at you.

You must be lonely! ;-)

non sequitur -- no one is here but my faithful sentry dogs.

Proving that even people on your side have abandoned you like a sick mutt!
;-)

Asking questions that can't be answered isn't clever, or honest Doan. It
simply displays and demonstrates how unethical and dishonest you are.

I'm just pointing the obvious - the emperor has no clothes! ;-)
Then put them back on, stupid. Even monkeys should cover up. 0:-

Hahaha!
Nervous laughter at being caught with your pants down?

Hahaha! I am just giving you the proper salute! ;-)

Then you admit to your exposing yourself as a liar. Thanks.

No. I EXPOSED you as a liar and STUPID! You're welcome! ;-)

So tell us, given YOUR past claims of spanking rates up to 90% and more
of the population in this country, what are the odds, especially with
his background that the killer of the Amish girls in PA was spanked?

90%+. What are the odds that Mother Theresa were spanked?
If you read her biography you'd know how stupid a question that is. She
had the most gentle of upbringings. And it lead to her career choice,
and how she pursued it.

Hahaha! So she was never spanked???
Well, prove the claim, stupid. Show us where anything says she was spanked.

90%+. Q.E.D

Q.E.D.?

Show us the demonstrated part of your claim. That some, or even 99.9%
were spanked is not "proof" that she was. Q.E.D. indeed. R R R R R R

Then it's 0.1% that she wasn't! Q.E.D.

Or don't you really know your Latin? Most monkeys don't.

I know you!

That is proof?

Yup!

Isn't there a 10% chance she wasn't?

And that's your proof?

What proof can you provide (not a percentage related to chance) that she
was not among the ten percent?

There is 10% chance that she is. Wanna bet, sucker?

Her bio reads like that of most children raised by parents that don't
spank. Her father was dead. Her mother most kindly.

Hahaha! You have a 10% chance!

I will not be so foolish as to try and convince you with an inapplicable
Latin label.

But you are foolish, nevertheless!

I simply know you have no proof, and I have her life story. Nothing
indicates she was spanked, and much indicates it as unlikely.

And you can't even convince any sane person with that line of argument.

Try again.

I did, STUPID!

You have such a fixation on your sick little agenda that you presume
that all people in certain categories were in fact spanked.

I am just playing the odds. It's a fact that 90%+ are spanked. You are
the exception! ;-)

I didn't ask for the odds. I asked for the proof. Some argument that
would support your claim that applies to THIS specific person.

And I gave you that 90%+ chance that she is!

Was SHE spanked. If so where in her story would you find something that
would indicate it likely?

Where in her story said that she wasn't?

Was her mother authoritarian? Rigid? Demanding?

Did I say that? Where did it say that her mother didn't believe in
spanking?

The only "demand" I saw here mother ever give her was to follow her own
calling as the mother remembered it from her early years...to go out and
help others.

So?

Did you read her biography? What did it say about her upbringing and how
gentle it was? Where did it indicate ANY chance she was spanked?

90%+

R R R R ....10%.

I get better odds in Vegas! ;-)

She could be among the .001percent for that matter. Odds are not proof.
Odds aren't even a good argument on such a subject.

It's good enough for me. ;-)

Spanking is a chance event, Doan. It's chosen.

And 90%+ chose it!

So percentages don't apply. Never have.

But it applied to the guy that shot up the school, right?

Or do you want NOW to go with your 90% claim and give up your prior
challenge to me to find some "data?" YOU provide the data, stupid.

I just did, STUPID!

But you have said that you never used this data for argument. Is that
not, 0:- correct?

Yup! Did I say it has any factor in her life?

A 90% likelihood she was spanked? Against her life story that shows a
very kindly and gentle mother? And no father at all, after he died?

You got it! ;-)


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...rls/article.do
http://tinyurl.com/ewwwy

(By the way, notice how you carefully AVOID making sources easily
available while I go out of my way to make it easy for readers? What's
that say about honesty and stupidity, relatively speaking? Or do you
think the readers here are stupid liars like you? Well, you are right.
There are a few. R R R R R R)

From the article above, and we DO expect a reasonable answer from you,
monkeyboy:

... "He was planning about six days in advance. He went equipped to
fortify the school for enough time to accomplish what he had planned."

Roberts, son of Charles a retired policeman and Teresa, who works for a
Christian theatre group, ...

Think he was as as child not spanked? Can you support such a claim, if
you'd like to make it?

Who said that he was not spanked?
I said, "... such a claim if you'd like to make it." Would you?

So I didn't make such claim.
Did I say you did?

So?

So would you like to make the claim? Or are you dodging even though you
decided to engage on this topic?

I did, STUPID!

So you aren't making the claim so you don't have to defend it.

So why asked me?

Because I want to.

Because you are STUPID!

Why answer?

To show how stupid you are!

Do you think this man was spanked....given you are or are not in defense
of the 90% spanked claim, and he was a Christian? Give it a shot, and
stand up like a man for once and be accounted for your beliefs.

I already said there is a 90%+ that he was, just like there is a 90%+
that Mother Theresa were spanked!

No, there are not even in the same category. He's not just like M.
Theresa. Not even 10% like her.

So you can prove tha he was spanked?

There is a 90% chance he was, but a very very slight chance M.Theresa was.

Base on what?

She had no father after he died young, and her mother was very kindly.

So?

His story is one that ended violently.

so?

Hers is not.

so?


0:-


Still having trouble with anything but Chimp Language?

Still being stupid I see. ;-)
Nope. Notice I just showed that you were dodging?

Notice that I just showed that you are STUPID! ;-)

By not accepting "odds" as "proof" for M. Theresa?

By showing your STUPIDITY in public!

I'll accept them for the killer though, readily.

That's your stupidity!

We've nothing but this bit of news to read about him.

So?

About M. Theresa we have her biography. You failed to answer if you read
it. If you have not well then I guess we are just stuck, because unlike
you, and other evasive and clever little liars, I don't cite something
that can't be seen here in this medium.

Where in her biography that said she wasn't spanked? You used the same
argument about Einstein, remembered?

Would you like me to provide you an URL, or can you use your tail to tap
out the letters for a search on your little monkey keyboard?

Sure. Just show me where it said she wasn't spanked at all. Can you?



When are you gits going to admit that CP is a bad outcome waiting to
happen?

Then proved it!
Decades of research establish it.

Hahaha! That's not proof stupid!
Sure it is. What do YOU use for proof?

The researchers can't establish causal factor yet.

Researchers in many fields fail to establish causal relationships yet
we, as a society go on and prosper by accepting the strong correlations
they find. We are still, as you may recall, debating what the Universe
is really made up of.

The same correlations that showed up for non-cp alternatives?

Yet here it is, just a workin' away with us as part of it.

Now, You are really STUPID1

That's correlation enough for me. How about you?

Just because you are stupid doesn't mean that I have to believe you. In
fact, I don't! ;-)

Therefore, it's no
proof, STUPID.

Correlations are never proof? And you know this? Yet you asked me for
proof, as in "Then proved it?" [sic]

But you can't prove it so you are just STUPID!

That's kind of stupid, isn't it?

Yes, you sure are STUPID!

In fact, the correlation for non-cp alternatives are
even stronger than spanking under the same condition. Have you read
Straus & Mouradina (1998)?

Funny you should ask. But you misspelled a name if we are thinking of
the same study.

When you have lost and argument you seem to develop this S&M twitch.

Projection! ;-)

Let's play again, monkeyboy.

Go ahead, "never-spanked" boy.

So, "the correlation for non-cp alternatives are even strong than
spanking under the same condition" for WHAT outcome?

ASB!

You didn't really say anything there, boy.

I didn't realize that you are even STUPIDER than I thought!


I guess I really was naive to expect more, "... and we DO expect a
reasonable answer from you ... "
Hihihi!
AF

I didn't get what I had hoped for. Too bad your parents spanked you into
your lack of ethics and poor morals.

And too bad that you were born so STUPID! Maybe bad genes? ;-)

AF
Genes are neither bad nor good, stupid monkeyboy.

There are bad genes and good genes, stupid "never-spanked" boy!

Really? Describe each.

Look it up, STUPID.

And by whose definition?

By reasonable people!

There's even monkeys that are smart for their kind, monkeyboy.

They are smarter than you! ;-)

Not this one, stupid.

You just don't know it, STUPID!


You've recently shown your stupidity in ways even I could not imagine
you'd be stupid enough to try.

Another STUPID statement! ;-0

Oh, you know then what I'm referring to, eh?

To you, STUPID!

AF