Gardasil, another great Merck product ;0)

On Nov 11, 11:02 pm, "JOHN" wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/shea.html

The first problem is that there are over 100 strains of HPV, only 30 of
which are even theoretically linked with cervical cancer. In addition, HPV
is present in at least half the normal population, almost never causing any
disease or problems whatsoever. Indeed, HPV has never been proven as a
pathogen for any disease.

Wrong, HPV has been proven numerous times to being involved in 100% of
CIN III and 99.7% of cervical cancer. And yes, there are over 100 HPV
strains, but HPV 16 and 18 account for over 70% of all cervical
cancers. If you give us numbers, give us all of them, not only those
who suit you.


....All that has ever been shown is that HPV is sometimes present in
cervical cancer tissue, but as we know it's also present in half the normal
population. There is a total lack of evidence that cervical cancer appears
in women with HPV more often than in women without it. And yet this will be
the focus of the vaccine: to pretend to eliminate this ubiquitous virus from
the body.

Wrong, as already said, HPV is almost always (99.7%) present in women
with cervical cancer.


The second enormous impediment to credibility is that the average age for
cervical cancer is 50 years. But the plan is to mandate Gardasil to 12
years olds. And the manufacturer is only claiming efficacy for 5 years. So
using their own statistics, this makes the vaccine worthless in the long
run, because by the time most females need immunity, it will have worn off
long ago.

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,
otherwise you'd have to vaccinate the girls every 5-10 years. And the
idea behind vaccinating 12 year olds is that by the age of 12, they
(hopefully) haven't had sex and therefore haven't already catched the
HPV.


....The original phrase used by Merck to link HPV with cervical cancer was
"there is a strong connection." How that phrase got transformed to 'is the
cause of' in the past two years is more a matter of marketing than of
science.
Gardasil's not been evaluated for carcinogenicity or impairment of
fertility. That's great. They want to vaccinate all American 12 year olds
with a vaccine for cancer and they don't even know for sure whether or not
it causes cancer, or makes the recipients infertile. Yeah, sign my kid up
for that one. HPV - The First Cancer Vaccine Dr Tim O'Shea

Your conclusions are wrong, as shown a few lines up in this answer.
And claiming that the HPV vaccine may make you infertile is a shameful
wild speculation lacking not only any evidence, but also any possible
biological mechanism.

"SanHolo" wrote in message

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,

How come the package insert says:
"The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization with
GARDASIL has not been established."

On Nov 12, 1:22 pm, "JOHN" wrote:
"SanHolo" wrote in message

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,

How come the package insert says:
"The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization with
GARDASIL has not been established."

Maybe because Gardasil has not been available for long enough to
ensure that?
But it _should_ last long enough based on current knowledge; only time
will tell if they were right with that conclusion.

"SanHolo" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 12, 1:22 pm, "JOHN" wrote:
"SanHolo" wrote in message

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,

How come the package insert says:
"The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization
with
GARDASIL has not been established."

Maybe because Gardasil has not been available for long enough to
ensure that?
But it _should_ last long enough based on current knowledge; only time
will tell if they were right with that conclusion.
Corn holio, Have you had this problem truth long? Why can you not simply
admit that your statement was false?

On Nov 12, 2:50 pm, "t" wrote:
"SanHolo" wrote in message

ups.com... On Nov 12, 1:22 pm, "JOHN" wrote:
"SanHolo" wrote in message

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,

How come the package insert says:
"The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization
with
GARDASIL has not been established."

Maybe because Gardasil has not been available for long enough to
ensure that?
But it _should_ last long enough based on current knowledge; only time
will tell if they were right with that conclusion.

Corn holio, Have you had this problem truth long? Why can you not simply
admit that your statement was false?

It wasn't false since obviously even the developers of Gardasil think
this to be true. If I truly was wrong, Gardasil would be on
vaccination schedule every 10 years like diphtheria or tetanus is.
John is right with his quote, it's not possible to _establish_ the
duration of immunity, but that does not make my statement wrong.

"SanHolo" wrote in message

It wasn't false since obviously even the developers of Gardasil think
this to be true. If I truly was wrong, Gardasil would be on
vaccination schedule every 10 years like diphtheria or tetanus is.
John is right with his quote, it's not possible to _establish_ the
duration of immunity, but that does not make my statement wrong.


LOL.

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"SanHolo" wrote in message

Wrong, the immunity lasts for your life. Be thankful of that,

How come the package insert says:
"The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization
with GARDASIL has not been established."

Once again, it looks like "SanHolo" hasn't done his pharma-assigned
homework!

He's just flying here on a wing and a prayer...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw