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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 04:28:23 GMT, "Byron Canfield"
wrote: Pepsi and Coke still have bottled water and juice brands. Yes, and how many students do you think will bother spending their money on water or juice, versus the junky stuff?? Nan It works for other schools, my daughter's included. You've made up your mind and won't be confused by facts. I think though it is probably dependent on having a closed campus. At the high school my kids went to, the kids can go out for lunch and their is a burger king, a mcdonald's and a KFC a few blocks down the street and a grocery store even closer if they want to just buy snack and junk food. For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Donna Metler wrote: "Byron Canfield" wrote in message news:9SrOa.3991$H17.2910@sccrnsc02... "Nan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:01:37 GMT, "Byron Canfield" wrote: That last bit is my point exactly. It is not necessary to obtain funding from sources that damage the health of the children. Vending machines can vend healthy food and drink just as easily. I maintain that it is necessary when the funding is lacking so sorely from the other sources. Sad, but true. Let's see..... We have the Pepsi Co or Coke Co coming to the schools and saying, "we'll outfit your entire school with brand new computers if we can put some vending machines in the cafeteria". We don't have the local farmers coming in with apples and oranges, and offering to upgrade the computers in exchange for allowing a fruit stand. Nan And then you tell them: "Yes, that's all well and good; we accept your offer. And here is the list of what we will allow you to stock in the vending machines. Any deviation from the list will be cause for immediate termination of power to the vending machines to prevent their further use by students until such time as the stock is made in conformance with the list." And CocaCola, at least, has no problem with this. In fact, since the price on bottled water and juice is higher than soda, they may even make more money from it. In addition, water/juice machines don't violate the USDA rules, so can be turned on all day, instead of only after lunch is over. Actually, the people who complained the most were the teachers who wanted their diet coke fix! We have a separate vending machines in the staff mail room for staff use. The prices are different and the selection is voted on. I suspect that could stay the same regardless of what was made available in student machines (hypocritcal tho that may be). |
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x-no-archive:yes toto wrote:
I think though it is probably dependent on having a closed campus. At the high school my kids went to, the kids can go out for lunch and their is a burger king, a mcdonald's and a KFC a few blocks down the street and a grocery store even closer if they want to just buy snack and junk food. The high schools that my kids went to were out in the country and they would have to drive several miles to get to anywhere where they could buy anything. The same was even true for the suburban high school that I went to. I could walk home, but there was nowhere else for me to walk to where I could buy anything. And I didn't really have the time to walk home even though my house was only about a block from the school. In many high schools the kids are bused in, and have no access to their own transportation. Therefore unless they can walk to somewhere, or they drive to school, the campus is in effect closed. Even in one of the schools that my kids attended where there is a small store across the street, they'd have to cross a busy highway, and the little store probably doesn't want hordes of kids in the store. For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. I think you might rethink that if you realized that in many cases for the kids to go off campus, they will have to get into a car and drive. I think that having teens drive to and from school just so they can go off campus is a bad idea and unsafe in the bargain. It's all very well to have an open campus if there's somewhere close and safe to go to. That isn't true in a lot of cases. grandma Rosalie |
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"Donna Metler" wrote: And CocaCola, at least, has no problem with this. In fact, since the price on bottled water and juice is higher than soda, they may even make more money from it. In addition, water/juice machines don't violate the USDA rules, so can be turned on all day, instead of only after lunch is over. Actually, the people who complained the most were the teachers who wanted their diet coke fix! I wouldn't have complained, but as a heavy Coca-Cola drinker, I would've had to make a *serious* adjustment once the no-soft drinks rule went into effect. Luckily, I have no such rules at my house. However, since "Coke" was about the 6th word that my child was able to say with regular proficiency, I may have a different set of problems down the road. We'll see. ;-) P. Tierney |
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"toto" wrote in message
For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. The high school where we are moving has a closed campus ... because it's a fairly rural community and there is nowhere close enough for the students to get to in the 45 or so minutes they have for lunch hour. In fact, now that I think about it, I now live the Chicago area and I don't know if the high school campus is closed, but I do know that at the local high school, it would be very difficult, even here in greater mega-suburbia, to get to any of the fast-food places and get lunch and get back to school in under 45 minutes. Certainly no place is close enough to walk to. Not exactly "making teens prisoners," don't you think? I'd say having schools away from fast-food-ville was a good thing. -- Marnie -- |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:03:18 -0400, Rosalie B.
wrote: For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. I think you might rethink that if you realized that in many cases for the kids to go off campus, they will have to get into a car and drive. I think that having teens drive to and from school just so they can go off campus is a bad idea and unsafe in the bargain. It's all very well to have an open campus if there's somewhere close and safe to go to. That isn't true in a lot of cases. Well, as I said it works on any closed campus. I just am glad that we lived where kids could walk off campus for many things. The grocery store was right across the street. Also my kids at least brown bagged lunch and could have brought what they wanted from home (and yes, they might have brought soda or junk food). -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:46:07 GMT, "Marnie" wrote:
Not exactly "making teens prisoners," don't you think? I'd say having schools away from fast-food-ville was a good thing. For various reasons, many campuses are closed and there is nothing close by. I prefer high schools to have an atmosphere more like that of college campuses, however, and I don't think that it is a good thing for students to have a lot of limitations. I realize that the way the high school day is set up doesn't lend itself easily to what I would like to see done, however. It is a fact of life that most teens *are* prisoners of the school considering that education is compulsory and many kids really don't want to be there. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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"toto" wrote in message news On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:03:18 -0400, Rosalie B. wrote: For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. I think you might rethink that if you realized that in many cases for the kids to go off campus, they will have to get into a car and drive. I think that having teens drive to and from school just so they can go off campus is a bad idea and unsafe in the bargain. It's all very well to have an open campus if there's somewhere close and safe to go to. That isn't true in a lot of cases. Well, as I said it works on any closed campus. I just am glad that we lived where kids could walk off campus for many things. The grocery store was right across the street. Also my kids at least brown bagged lunch and could have brought what they wanted from home (and yes, they might have brought soda or junk food). When I went to high school, the campus was closed unless you were taking a class at one of the colleges or were on a part-day work or internship program-of course, given that the only nearby business was the farm bureau store, I guess it didn't matter much! My husband went to high school with an open campus for a very logical reason-his school district, needing space and seeing the number of kids who were leaving campus for lunch anyway, turned the cafeteria into classrooms and stopped serving a hot lunch-you could buy a bag lunch (or get one if you were on free lunch) brought over from another school, but if you wanted anything else, there was McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hut, etc. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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Marnie wrote:
"toto" wrote in message For the younger kids who cannot go off-campus, it will work, for high school students. I doubt it unless we keep them from going anywhere else and I am not in favor of closing campuses and making teens prisoners for the entire school day as is done in some places. The high school where we are moving has a closed campus ... because it's a fairly rural community and there is nowhere close enough for the students to get to in the 45 or so minutes they have for lunch hour. In fact, now that I think about it, I now live the Chicago area and I don't know if the high school campus is closed, but I do know that at the local high school, it would be very difficult, even here in greater mega-suburbia, to get to any of the fast-food places and get lunch and get back to school in under 45 minutes. Certainly no place is close enough to walk to. Not exactly "making teens prisoners," don't you think? I'd say having schools away from fast-food-ville was a good thing. -- Marnie -- ------------- All it does is cause resentment and hatred of all authority and a consequent rebellion as an older teen or adult, which is part of why this nation is so fat. You should see the kids race out to buy cigarettes when they turn 18. Eating what you want follows the same mold. Steve |
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toto wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:46:07 GMT, "Marnie" wrote: Not exactly "making teens prisoners," don't you think? I'd say having schools away from fast-food-ville was a good thing. For various reasons, many campuses are closed and there is nothing close by. I prefer high schools to have an atmosphere more like that of college campuses, however, and I don't think that it is a good thing for students to have a lot of limitations. I realize that the way the high school day is set up doesn't lend itself easily to what I would like to see done, however. It is a fact of life that most teens *are* prisoners of the school considering that education is compulsory and many kids really don't want to be there. Dorothy --------------- All it does is encourage dropping-out. Steve |
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