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LaVonne, where art thou?
Doan wrote:
It has been over seven weeks now since LaVonne posted "studies that have not been discussed in this newsgroup". I challenged her to debate me on these so-called studies. Why is she so afraid to take me on? Doan I bet she's seen the Light! -- Dennis |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
wrote in message ... LaVonne Carlson wrote: Dennis, your posts seem far more appropriate on this ng. Yes, Lavonne Carlson, maybe better here...than where your head is apparently at...don't 'cha know? Silk purse from a sow's ear. One cannot really expect dennis to change, he has to much invested in being an idiot to give it up now. Ron wrote: Doan wrote: It has been over seven weeks now since LaVonne posted "studies that have not been discussed in this newsgroup". I challenged her to debate me on these so-called studies. Why is she so afraid to take me on? Doan I bet she's seen the Light! -- Dennis -- Dennis |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
"Ron" wrote:
wrote in message ... LaVonne Carlson wrote: Dennis, your posts seem far more appropriate on this ng. Yes, Lavonne Carlson, maybe better here...than where your head is apparently at...don't 'cha know? Silk purse from a sow's ear. One cannot really expect dennis to change, he has to much invested in being an idiot to give it up now. I'm afraid your post isn't appropriate to this NG Defense dog...I'm going to have to send it to your web-page: http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.html Ron wrote: Doan wrote: It has been over seven weeks now since LaVonne posted "studies that have not been discussed in this newsgroup". I challenged her to debate me on these so-called studies. Why is she so afraid to take me on? Doan I bet she's seen the Light! -- Dennis -- Dennis -- Dennis |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
"Greg Hanson" wrote in message om... http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.html Not my page dude, my team's. Besides, the topic was more than just on target, it was appropriate and accurate. Ron Ron, is this not your picture? http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.jpg This does not look like a team. It looks like one member. I think you are a giant member. --------------------------------------- [ INH*LuckyEddie ] [ Active ] CallSign: INH*INH*LuckyEddie Name: Ronald VanDyne E-mail: Quote: "I'm old, come closer my child." [Rank] - Defense Dog Practice Nazi in Training [Personal Site] - Yeah, right. --------------------------------------- I've been meaning to ask you about the pervy comments in this game playing bio you posted online: Well now, I guess I can help you out there. After all, teaching is a part of a parents duties and since you are not a parent I don't mind helping you out a bit because its obvious that you fail to understand much more than this. "I'm old, come closer my child." and Its an age thing. I am not the oldest member of the team (we have one that is more than 60), its an indication to those that are attacking what I am defending that the closer they get the more danger they are in. Now of course, this is only ingame. In real life, if you attack anything I am defending then range does not matter, the danger starts immediately. But you missed one greg. "Defense Dog". This tells one that I will defend my home and my people like a dog over his bone. Give it a try some day, I'm sure you will find it educational. Practice Nazi in Training A "Practice Nazi" is someone that believes that to be good at something one must practice. Since this is a team, and competition is a part of being a team, the "Practice Nazi" is the one that gets in everyone's face about making it to practice sessions so that the team can compete at a higher level. Since I am only in training, it indicates that there is a full fledged "Practice Nazi" already. Does the Nebraska Foster Care Review Board approve? Somehow I think you will find that they are not interested in online gaming. But even if they were, I'm sure that they would approve of the entire "team", "competition", and entertainment aspects of the game. Certainly its much more wholesome than abusing a 6 year old child greg. I don't see much "team", "competition", or entertainment in that, but it does seem that you do. I'd like to hear Dan's comments about the pervy comments. Why? You have not heard very much of what Dan has had to say in the last year anyway, what makes this different? Kane, I'd like to hear your comments on Ron's game bio. Did you know these labels have been PUBLIC on the net for over a year now, perhaps longer? 2 years actually. He and I have already discussed it, and he (being human) understand the concepts involved. I would expect him to, just as I would expect you to miss those concepts completely. fern of course does not even grasp the basic concepts of being human, but what can one expect from a plant. Here endeth the lession. Ron |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
"Greg Hanson" wrote in message om... http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.html Not my page dude, my team's. Besides, the topic was more than just on target, it was appropriate and accurate. Ron Ron, is this not your picture? http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.jpg This does not look like a team. Surf the site a litte more. I believe each team member has their own info page. It looks like one member. I think you are a giant member. --------------------------------------- [ INH*LuckyEddie ] [ Active ] CallSign: INH*INH*LuckyEddie Name: Ronald VanDyne E-mail: Quote: "I'm old, come closer my child." [Rank] - Defense Dog Practice Nazi in Training [Personal Site] - Yeah, right. --------------------------------------- I've been meaning to ask you about the pervy comments in this game playing bio you posted online: "I'm old, come closer my child." and Practice Nazi in Training Does the Nebraska Foster Care Review Board approve? Ask em, Greg. I'd like to hear Dan's comments about the pervy comments. What pervy comments? Kane, I'd like to hear your comments on Ron's game bio. You'd like the taxpayers of Iowa to pay for the storage of your excess crap, too, Greg. You'd like the Judge to take a twentyfive question quizz. You'd like the little girl to come home so you can be her towel boy all over again. Keep dreaming. Did you know these labels have been PUBLIC on the net for over a year now, perhaps longer? So what? Ron is a participant in a computer game that supposedly takes place in the year 3057. That's all it is. Can you prove otherwise? Dan |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
On 24 Aug 2003 02:56:05 -0700, (Greg Hanson)
wrote: http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.html Not my page dude, my team's. Besides, the topic was more than just on target, it was appropriate and accurate. Ron Ron, is this not your picture? http://www.clannorthwind.net/inh/mem/le.jpg This does not look like a team. It looks like one member. I think you are a giant member. In the interests of truth and the American Way, why don't you go down to the highway and hitch a ride out to see Ron and find out for yourself? --------------------------------------- [ INH*LuckyEddie ] [ Active ] CallSign: INH*INH*LuckyEddie Name: Ronald VanDyne E-mail: Quote: "I'm old, come closer my child." [Rank] - Defense Dog Practice Nazi in Training [Personal Site] - Yeah, right. --------------------------------------- I've been meaning to ask you about the pervy comments in this game playing bio you posted online: Hey, it would be much more useful to ask him in person, don't you think? "I'm old, come closer my child." and Practice Nazi in Training Does the Nebraska Foster Care Review Board approve? Not if they are made up of little twits such as you, I'm sure. I'd like to hear Dan's comments about the pervy comments. Me too. Kane, I'd like to hear your comments on Ron's game bio. Did you know these labels have been PUBLIC on the net for over a year now, perhaps longer? Happy to oblige, couch denter. Apparently Ron has nothing to hide. But then neither do you, apparently. His comfort with himself is, however, hardly comparable with your self annointed denial of the truth...that you are a useless, child displacing, gigalo. There are two occupations that I have the highest regard for those who pursue them. One is police officer, the other is volunteer foster parent. Each has a unique set of stressors related to the work involved. Each, among the best of them, learns to take rafts of **** and keep right on doing the job the best they can. The smart cop and the smart foster parent allows themselves..no, assigns themselves, outlets for the tension and stress the job can and usually does bring. It's a hallmark of the smart working individual (let's you out, dunnit..r r rr ) that they recreate. Apparently gaming is one of Ron's. You of course don't need recreation, as apparently you've become stuck to that couch sitting on your ass for the past two plus years. As for the "come closer my child" comment, well, I've often used a similar comment when one of you ****ups has been especially stupid. I often say, "Let's dance." It means about the same thing, I'd wager. It points up your stupidity and your hubrus to think you could play the game at my level. Tell yah what. Why don't you hitch a ride out to where Ron lives, look him up, and ask him to his face what his comment, part of an on line game in the time honored tradition of D&D, really means. And while you are at it, just "come closer my child" to him and see what happens to you, punk. Now that I've kindly given my opinion of Ron, as you requested, how about you give me a couple of yours? Let's start with what your thoughts are for a pimple butt little boy like Dennis and his school yard behavior in putting up a pic on his web site, that he claims is a proctologist photo of his colon with, a picture he claims is one of the other posters? While you are at it, tell us what you think of the organization that apparently hasn't caught on to him and his hapless impotency when it comes to helping families and what they would think if they knew of his on line adventures? Or if they have caught on, why they would have him and his childishness as a state director? Oh, and just to round out your day of "work" (mmmmphhhh) you may include what you think of a grown man that manages to displace a 6 year old girl and step into her place in the household, and sit on his ass for two years blocking her return to her mother. Hey, and if you like, take a freebie, and come up with your opinion of the mother as well. Have a great day, Kane |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
If Ron was under the same CPS microscope parents get put under,
those labels would become a case. A GROWN MAN so into Role Playing Games that he posts his photo and calls himself a "Practice NAZI in training"? This is a veritable BONANZA of possible "indicators". CPS Caseworkers mark farmers down for 1. Living "too far out of town" 2. Slaughtering animals 3. Owning firearms (despite gun safe) 4. Hunting 5. Dirty environment You think a guy can call himself a NAZI in any form and not get attention? And the pervy come here quote sounds like some perv luring a child. Maybe these are innocent, maybe NOT, but then number 1-5 above are used as indicators without any common sense involved. Longer "indicator lists" like that exist and are kept pretty hush hush. They "get out" every once in awhile, when subpoena'd for example. Many of the items are MUCH MORE REDICULOUS than 1-5 above. Welcome to the world of slimey innuendo. CPS has it refined to an art. One of the FIRST questions they ask is about your religious orientation. And remember that in that recent bogus ("CPS sucks" - Dan) case in COLORADO, they removed the child because they decided the mother was being "secretive". It's the modern inquisition, the crucible. |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
(Kane) wrote:
snip Describing a family and it's situation (something the worker is required to do for the case to be presented to the court....heaven help them if the DONT'T) is not the same as "mark farmers down", but then how would you know how the normal world works. Wanna bet? We have a farm, own numerous vehicles (licensed, insured and we got's the paper's to prove it), have 3 on-line machines and a Ninetendo(!) and live a mere 5 miles from "the city". And we live in the 'heart' of a Mid-Western agricultural community. Tell me, where is the "isolation from the "CONVEINCE?" chuckle http://tinyurl.com/lb04 merciful snip of the rest of oingo-bonker K9's anti-family propaganda -- free |
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LaVonne, where art thou?
Kane, these are not "describing the family setting".
These are indicators, which CPS caseworkers use, complete with a "points system" to score the likelihood of abuse. Many states use such lists. Some such lists have become public when they were subpoena'd in law suits. Very few states have made such lists public, because even the caseworkers are ashamed of some of the items on the list. The likelihood becomes a prejudice, a presumption. As you should know, the presumption in Juvenile Court is guilty. (Which even the state's statistics show to be very wrong!) Dan discovered recently how the stats about bone breaks have been twisted and even mythologized by the caseworkers. That the prevailing presumptions that most caseworkers have been using about bone breaks being inherently ABUSE were false. That the majority of families found guilty were not. That the majority accused were though to be caught dead to rights. That the CPS train was WAY off the track and HAD BEEN for quite a few years after exculpatory information showed that the presumption of guilt bone breaks WAS FALSE. The report Dan recently discovered even points out that many of the children removed forever and adopted based on the FALSE PRESUMPTION were later proven INNOCENT, but of course the system has NO WAY to reverse itself and right the evil the system discovered it had done. Nobody visited the adopted child to inform them "Oh, by the way, remember your evil parents we TPR'd? We just discovered that they were falsely convicted. We are SO SORRY that we did such a horrible wrong to you and your family." The system intended to right wrongs, refuses to right the wrongs the system itself perpetrated even when the proof is shoved in their faces. As evil as a tobacco company coverup, they bury the facts, hush up the discovery and deny everything. Keep in mind, this is PART OF THE GOVERNMENT, behaving like a greedy Enron, MCI or Tobacco company, shredding as much as possible, denying everything, etc. When I read that bone breakage report and saw where the doctor discovered that XX kids adopted out for abuse were found later to be not abused but simply ill with a bone condition that fooled the fools. Why WAS it, (IS it in many cases) that caseworkers who do NOT have the credentials to properly judge bone breaks to be child abuse were (are) SO RIGHTIOUS and ""KNOW"" that it was child abuse? Why do caseworkers PRETEND at having medical credentials, psychology credentials, etc?? Why do they PRETEND they have such amazing professional training? Didn't DAN HIMSELF point out that caseworkers get pathetically little training, and almost NEVER actually see the montrously huge manual that is supposed to guide them? Somebody said that they get only about 10 days of training with only a few PARTS of the manual. Dan says you rushed off to send the bone break discovery to various Child Protection authorities. Is that true and how did it go, Kane? |
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