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cjra wrote:
My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down). Now, DD is nearly 1 yr old and almost 20 lbs. My thoughts are 1) she's too big (or nearly so) for it anyway and 2) she'll walk when she wants to walk and 3) we don't have space for more stuff. What's the current thought/recommendation on these things? I know walkers are not recommended, what about the jumper? We do have another followup with the developmental specialist in August, whom we're seeing just as a f/u to her birth issues, so far there hasn't been too much concern. She's a little behind on milestones, but well within the curve. She doesn't crawl, but scoots all over the place. She pulls up onto her knees occasionally, so she *can* just doesn't appear to want to. All mine walked at or before a year, and trust me - the later they walk the better for everyone. My niece wasn't walking at a year and it was much easier on everyone. I wasn't so lucky. I had a friend who had a very large baby - he was about 30 lbs at a year and too heavy for his grandmother to pick up as she had a bad back. He wasn't even scooting or crawling at a year of age, and then at about 14 months he suddenly got up and started running around like his older brother had been doing for some time. His mom said it was a big shock to the system. She'd had this baby who basically stayed where you put him, and then he turned into a terrible two like overnight. |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:02:41 GMT, "xkatx" wrote:
I would tell my mom that she's well within the 'normal' range. Not all babies get up and walk at 9 or 10 months. In fact, most don't walk this early. "On average a child will begin walking at age of 12 or 14 months but considerable differences are likely. Some children begin walking much earlier and some as late as 21 months." My ds, btw, walked at 13 months, but he had been pulling up and cruising for some time. He just didn't let go until he was ready. And, once he walked, he was off and running and there was no holding him back. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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On Jun 14, 7:05 pm, Vickie wrote:
On the other hand, maybe your daughter is picked up quite a bit and loves being held. That is why she is resistant to putting her feet down. This was me. When I was born, my older sisters were 9 and 10 years old. They treated me like their own living doll and carried me everywhere. My mother got concerned when I wasn't walking yet at 18 months and took me to the doctor. According to her, he took one look at my two sisters and told mom to stop letting my sisters carry me everywhere. I started walking the next week. Annie |
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cjra wrote:
My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down). My boys liked their jumperoo so-so. They were done with it at around 8-9mos though. It is pretty big (takes up a ton of room) so I think they could still use it if they wanted (they are 14mos). I do agree with Kate though. I don't think I'd go with it. If she doesn't bare weight on her feet (which most babies do by now, even if they aren't walking) I don't think I'd want her doing it in a jumperoo either. I'd ask your mom to wait until August so you can consult with the specialist and they'll recommend something. -- nikki |
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On Jun 15, 11:17 am, annie wrote:
On Jun 14, 7:05 pm, Vickie wrote: On the other hand, maybe your daughter is picked up quite a bit and loves being held. That is why she is resistant to putting her feet down. This was me. When I was born, my older sisters were 9 and 10 years old. They treated me like their own living doll and carried me everywhere. My mother got concerned when I wasn't walking yet at 18 months and took me to the doctor. According to her, he took one look at my two sisters and told mom to stop letting my sisters carry me everywhere. I started walking the next week. Annie LOL! Very cute. Yea, there are so many reasons why a child might not *want* to walk. It doesn't necessarily mean they can't or have some medical problem or that they are behind. People just need to settle. (Especially most grandmas and MILS) Vickie |
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Akuvikate wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:48 pm, cjra wrote: My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down). Tell her pediatricians and pediatric physical therapists advise against it. If a child has developmental issues it's more important to avoid sling seats (walker, jumper, exersaucer) than for the typical child. It sounds like your daughter has mild developmental issues at most, which means that the jumper would probably be somewhere between irrelevant to slightly harmful. These types of seats strengthen muscles in the wrong order and so babies can develop habits that are counterproductive to motor development. A little time in any of those things (except the walker) is rarely going to be a big deal either way, but if your mom is concerned about helping her motor development, it's the wrong way to go. Better to keep seeing the developmentalist and follow her recommendations. What Kate said. Pillbug is autistic and did not walk until 2yo. ALL of our therapists (infant educator, occupational therapist, everyone) said to avoid walkers and jumperoos. They twist the hips outward and the walkers are quite dangerous and, for a typical child, may not hurt but does not help. You can put her in the swing in the park; that will help her strengthen her abdominals (core strength) and can help her balance and walk. Otherwise, let her figure it out. She *will* walk. -- Anita -- |
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"toto" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:02:41 GMT, "xkatx" wrote: I would tell my mom that she's well within the 'normal' range. Not all babies get up and walk at 9 or 10 months. In fact, most don't walk this early. No, they sure don't. My mom said I walked Easter weekend when I was a baby - that would have made me just over 9 months. She remembers it clearly after all these years because it was Easter weekend and we were out of town visiting relatives in another province. (this is according to her, of course, but she does have a few pics from long ago) My older baby brother (not a baby anymore!) didn't walk until he was about 14 months. He would, however, walk along furniture for ages! He just wouldn't take those first few steps on his own until HE was good and ready. "On average a child will begin walking at age of 12 or 14 months but considerable differences are likely. Some children begin walking much earlier and some as late as 21 months." I have noticed that bigger babies will sometimes walk a little later. They also seem to crawl, sit up, roll a lot later as well, although that's not *always* the case. Just seems to be a little more common. Friend's baby, again, was just starting to crawl when DD1 was just starting to walk. They were born the same exact day - every baby definitely seems to be so very, very different. Even twins - another friend's set of twins... So very, very different as can be. My ds, btw, walked at 13 months, but he had been pulling up and cruising for some time. He just didn't let go until he was ready. And, once he walked, he was off and running and there was no holding him back. That's how my one brother was. That's also how a friend's DS was. That's how a lot of them do it, and quite frankly, they all seem to walk when ready. I've seen that some are just hesitant, some are lazy, some do have some sort of problem that a specialist is needed for (I have a friend who's baby is about 6 months younger than DD1 - he'd be about 18ish months now. Last weekend the big news was that he was finally walking, and he has/had clubbed feet with surgery as a smaller baby to try and correct it. Every baby... It's amazing how different they are at the same age as another baby. I really wouldn't be concerned, and if there is a concern that a specialist is recommended, I'd wait for the specialist before freaking out, and even then, I'd probably go for a second opinion! -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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We had something similar to this but it clipped onto a door frame, not
on it's own frame, it also didn't have fancy stuff on it, so the entire fun of it was the bouncing, not anything else. We had one child who was keen on pulling up, cruising, never crawled and walked just before a year, he loved the baby bouncer. A sounds very much like our 2nd, scooting less iirc, not crawling, not really pulling up etc. and she didn't like the baby bouncer! I wonder if this is simply that her other activities were dictated by her personality, learning method etc. and the fact she wasn't doing them was for similar reasons to her not liking that style of toy. As it happened she started crawling a little after a year and walked somewhere between 14 and 15mths. I think the thing is with milestones for gross motor skills is there is an awful lot of natural variation, and so many different routes to get to the final result of walking, I believe average for walking is supposed to be 13mths, it doesn't look like it now to you, but it's also entirely possible she will do it by then as that's just one of many ways children behave! I recall also that 18mths was a point where people did start to get a bit concerned if a child was not walking, though parents get anxious before then, I suspect because there is a big cluster learning to walk between 11 and 15 mths that after that, whilst not being an indicator of anything, is frustrating and anxiety causing for the parents. So, I wouldn't have your mum buy this toy. However, if you don't have anything that can be pushed along, I'd ask her to buy that instead, we have a lovely wooden trolley filled with bricks, similar to http://tinyurl.com/34cumb, I don't think it particularly helped, though it may have increased confidence after the skill had been learnt, but it's a toy that has provided a lot of enjoyment over a long period of time, we only just put it away, and DD, 2, would still use it if it was out, but DS was misbehaving with it. Anne |
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On Jun 14, 2:48 pm, cjra wrote:
My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down). Now, DD is nearly 1 yr old and almost 20 lbs. My thoughts are 1) she's too big (or nearly so) for it anyway and 2) she'll walk when she wants to walk and 3) we don't have space for more stuff. What's the current thought/recommendation on these things? I know walkers are not recommended, what about the jumper? We do have another followup with the developmental specialist in August, whom we're seeing just as a f/u to her birth issues, so far there hasn't been too much concern. She's a little behind on milestones, but well within the curve. She doesn't crawl, but scoots all over the place. She pulls up onto her knees occasionally, so she *can* just doesn't appear to want to. Thank you all for the advice. I managed to convince my mom not to buy it by using the 'pediatricians don't recommend blah blah blah" line. My mom seems to be concerned about DD's lagging in milestones, probably knowing the birth problems. Between 8 kids and 25 grandkids, I'm sure milestones have been all over the place, and only one of those has issues (Asperger's syndrome), but for some reason she's extra concerned about DD. I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun, but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due to her scooting. |
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"cjra" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 14, 2:48 pm, cjra wrote: My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down). Now, DD is nearly 1 yr old and almost 20 lbs. My thoughts are 1) she's too big (or nearly so) for it anyway and 2) she'll walk when she wants to walk and 3) we don't have space for more stuff. What's the current thought/recommendation on these things? I know walkers are not recommended, what about the jumper? We do have another followup with the developmental specialist in August, whom we're seeing just as a f/u to her birth issues, so far there hasn't been too much concern. She's a little behind on milestones, but well within the curve. She doesn't crawl, but scoots all over the place. She pulls up onto her knees occasionally, so she *can* just doesn't appear to want to. Thank you all for the advice. I managed to convince my mom not to buy it by using the 'pediatricians don't recommend blah blah blah" line. My mom seems to be concerned about DD's lagging in milestones, probably knowing the birth problems. Between 8 kids and 25 grandkids, I'm sure milestones have been all over the place, and only one of those has issues (Asperger's syndrome), but for some reason she's extra concerned about DD. I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun, but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due to her scooting. Is she bottom shuffling rather than crawling? I think there's research out there (I was told by a Doctor) showing that on average bottom shufflers walk considerably after their peers, months later. I can't remember the reason sited but it seemed to come from a reliable source (might have been the BMJ). Certainly the bottom shufflers I've known have been late to walk. Having just google searched "bottom shuffling" walking I've come up with http://www.fleshandbones.com/readingroom/pdf/1508.pdf If you go to the second page (I think it's labelled as page 25) at the top on the right hand column it says that bottom shufflers are later to walk. Hope that might help with your mum. I might speak to your mum. Ask her why she seems particularly concerned about your dd, if you have that sort of relationship with her. It may be that she thinks she's spotted something, or just she "has a feeling" (which could be entirely wrong! so don't let that panic you if she says that) or maybe she feels extra protective because of the birth problems. Debbie |
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