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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
betsy schrieb:
On Sep 29, 8:29 am, NL wrote: when she's laying on her back her head's not turned to the side all the time anymore. She's still no good at nursing on the right breast though :-/ I think let down is too fast for her there, she latches on fine but pulls away frequently. When mine were newborns, they preferred my less productive side. As they got bigger and more able to handle the more forceful letdown, they switched to liking the more productive side better. Sara is 4 weeks today, but she's wearing 2-4month size clothing! She spits up a fair bit (Sam never spit up except if he had a crappy day) and I put her into one of Sams outfits, which fit him well when he was about 6-8 weeks old. I swear, if she'd stretch out all the way she'd make the buttons fly off. So to me she's not exactly a newborn ;-) She's _huge_! *lol* It's so strange, she's asleep in my bed with Sam right now and I look at her and think "There's no way you could have ever fit into my belly. You're so big already!" the pair of pants I had with me for taking her home from hospital were practically capri-pants on her! I knit her a really warm sweater, which is nearly too small already, she's worn it once so far... But yes, she's definitely still a newborn nursing wise, though I noticed when I nursed her "to sleep" (overtired, screaming, fussing, no-fun baby, we need to take our walk earlier tomorrow..) she nursed fine on my right side, apparently let down isn't such a big problem when we're laying down so I'm on my right side. I have no clue why though.. Whatever, as long as it works ;-) To the OP: So yeah, try different nursing positions! My midwife told us about a mother of twins who nursed both, she had them in bed with her, one on the foot end one on the head end and she'd "flip over" whenever one was crying. It worked fine for her. I know it doesn't "cut down on time" because you'd be nursing one at a time, but if you can do it without really waking up it doesn't really matter, right? And for the day time, relax, it's not a race. Yes, we've all got chores and things to do and we don't like to sit there nursing 24/7 either, but this time will pass, and it will do so quickly even though it doesn't seem like it today. I thought I'd be sitting there nursing my now 7 year old until I'm old and gray and I'd have sipderwebs all over me because when he was really little he'd nurse 30 min on the left, 30 min on the right, 30 on the left again and then sleep for 30 minutes, but _only in my arms and I was not allowed to move_ or he'd wake up and scream... It passed. I'm not nursing him 24/7 anymore and I don't have gray hair (just don't look too closely, those few in the back don't count! No, I don't want you to count them for me either!) well, at least there's no cobwebs! Is there any way you can help your wife out in a different way, like having someone come in once a week and clean the house? Can you take care of the laundry in the evenings? What about your/her parents, can they maybe cook and freeze some food for you so she doesn't have to cook every night and you're not living on take out either? cu nicole |
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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
wrote in message ups.com... Hi there, We have twins who are 3 months old (1.5 months corrected) that my wife is currently breastfeeding. Occasionally I bottlefeed one of them to give her a break but our problem is with the other one (Hannah) who has problems with the bottle. Hannah will start to take the bottle fine but after several minutes she will try and spit the nipple out, start crying, arching, stretching and looks to be in a lot of pain. If I try and continue, it's as if she can no longer get a good latch on the bottle nipple. If I do get it above her tongue she will try to suck but quickly fights it off or sucks but it most seems to spray out of the side her mouth or leak out. We've tried all manner of nipples (using different brands, flows, shapes and textures) but can't find anything that works. She definitely has reflux and is on Previcid for it. Putting her on it has allowed my wife to nurse her where before she would not even nurse very well. Nursing still isn't perfect with her as she sometimes will take very little but she must make up for it at other times as she's gaining good weight consistently. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Thanks. I haven't read the massive replies already given, so I don't know if this has been suggested, but try vanilla extract. It kind of worked for DD2, who still, to this day, outright refuses bottles. She has had the odd bottle of EBM only. Never had even a tiny drop of formula, and with EBM in a bottle, she would still refuse it. A friend suggested trying vanilla extract. I thought she was on glue or worse. She said that she had the same bottle issue with one of her boys as I had with DD2. Her story was the same as mine - every type of bottle and nipple and then some and nothing worked, and, eventually, she just gave up on trying to force a bottle for a rare occasion, just as I had. Then she heard to try vanilla extract. The best bottles for this to use are ones that are wider. Something like a Playtex nurser or similar with a very wide opening and nipple. Put a bit of vanilla extract on your finger or Q-tip and just wipe a bit of the extract around that ring part that the nipple goes in then screws on to the bottle. Just put it around there where it can be smelled but not eaten or tasted. Friend told me that she heard somewhere that to a nursling, their mother's milk has a slight vanilla scent to it. After this suggestion, I really did think she was sniffing the glue and had gone insane, but I tried it out anyways. Oddly enough, this way and with one of the bottles and nipples I had previously tried, DD2 took the bottle. She took it very reluctantly, but there was none of the screaming, crying, back arching, freaking out, spitting the nipple out. DD2 clearly did NOT like the bottle with the vanilla around it, but she did take it and she took it just fine (although didn't seem to stop letting us all know she wasn't all too impressed!) I was able to leave her with a bottle on an occasion or two - I had planned to begin going back to my once a month meetings that required 'Daddy Time' for the kids, and I was able to go back to that when DD2 was about 4 months old and we figured the vanilla trick. No idea if that will work for you, but it definitely worked for us over here and also for a friend who suggested it and tried it on an occasion. The friend also used EBM in a bottle as well, not formula, and you didn't mention if it's formula or breast milk in the bottle, so if it is formula, the baby just might not like the taste of it and fight it and in this case, I don't think that the vanilla trick would work at all. It might, though, if it's breast milk in the bottle. Who knows? It might be worth a shot! |
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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 23:09 -0600, Nikki wrote: Argh! Fix your computer clock. You're posting from random dates in the future! self latch and hold my wife literally needs an extra hand to do it. I have twins that I am nursing. I promise that it will get a lot easier when they get just a little older and are better able to stay latched on. She should continue to work with tandeming them and it will happen. They are very close to being good at it. Does she have a twins nursing pillow? I used the EZ-2-Nurse twins nursing pillow and it was a life savor. It made tandeming possible. We found that it was much easier for me to nurse them at the same time then it was for dh to bottle them at the same time. He had to bottle them individually for a long time. I'm wishing you the best of luck!! |
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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
wrote in message ups.com... Hi there, We have twins who are 3 months old (1.5 months corrected) that my wife is currently breastfeeding. Occasionally I bottlefeed one of them to give her a break but our problem is with the other one (Hannah) who has problems with the bottle. Hannah will start to take the bottle fine but after several minutes she will try and spit the nipple out, start crying, arching, stretching and looks to be in a lot of pain. How many ounces is she taking? She just sounds full to me. Be sure she burps frequently. Is this one bottle a day or more? If it is just one bottle a day or less I wouldn't worry about how much she takes. She is gaining fine so is getting plenty with the nursing. Even if that one bottle feed is small, she'll make up for it at the breast. If this is multiple bottles a day then I'd consult the ped. I don't know a thing about reflux but if she is sucking for several minutes before she starts fussing it makes me think that she is either full or miserable. IME nipple preference issues caused problems at the very beginning of a feed, not several minutes later. Congratulations to you and your wife. Assure her that it will get easier! You can help out in many ways besides giving a bottle. I found it extremely helpful for someone to take the babies right before and after a feed - to change and comfort them. We did do bottles too. I needed to top off a bit in the beginning and then we kept up the one bottle a day to keep them in practice for when I returned to work. The bottles were a pain IMO, and other kinds of help benefited me more. Everyone is different though! Hang in there - it is going to get really fun really soon when their personalities and interactions begin -- Nikki, mama to Hunter 4/99 Luke 4/01 Brock 4/06 Ben 4/06 |
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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
wrote in message oups.com... She had taken the bottle perfectly earlier on but maybe now it is just a preference to the breast. I don't think we're trying to overfeed her because she starts fighting the bottle sometimes after only taking 1 oz. Babies, especially primarily breastfed ones, will take varying amounts from the bottle because they are used to getting varying amounts at the breast. If the baby is showing a preference then she may always take just enough to get by on from the bottle. Don't worry about it. She'll make up the difference at the breast. Especially if you are talking about just one or two bottles a day. This situation has been true for all of my babies and it was never a problem for us. I will say that I never gave my babies a bottle. I usually tried to leave the area. It is hard to imagine right now, in the thick of things, but really - nursing directly will be easier for your wife then nursing, pumping, fiddling with bottles etc. I'm going back to work soon and my wife was hoping that she might exclusively pump and bottle both girls with the breastmilk rather then nurse them one at a time as it would be far quicker. Unfortunately, Hannah doesn't take to the tandem nursing very well either and until they can self latch and hold my wife literally needs an extra hand to do it. I have twins that I am nursing. I promise that it will get a lot easier when they get just a little older and are better able to stay latched on. She should continue to work with tandeming them and it will happen. They are very close to being good at it. Does she have a twins nursing pillow? I used the EZ-2-Nurse twins nursing pillow and it was a life savor. It made tandeming possible. We found that it was much easier for me to nurse them at the same time then it was for dh to bottle them at the same time. He had to bottle them individually for a long time. I'm wishing you the best of luck!! -- Nikki, mama to Hunter 4/99 Luke 4/01 Brock 4/06 Ben 4/06 |
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Problem bottle feeding one of the twins
"Donna Metler" wrote in message . .. I'd just like to say, as someone who EPd a preemie who couldn't nurse and pumped until age 2, EPing is not as bad as people make it sound. You do eventually get into a rhythm of it. If you can combo pump and BF, it should be even more doable. Breastfeeding until two is rare and to pump until two is exceptional. You did such a great job and have a lot of commitment! I think the biggest obstacle is the unknown factor of how well someone is going to respond to the pump. Not everyone does long term and you don't really know that until the baby is older. It is a very real risk that a baby would need more then a person could pump. I detest pumping though and so I'm biased I also experienced pump resistance the last two times. -- Nikki, mama to Hunter 4/99 Luke 4/01 Brock 4/06 Ben 4/06 |
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