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  #11  
Old July 26th 06, 09:22 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
HCN
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"john" wrote in message
...

"HCN" wrote in message
...




From http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my ass on it
some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a
chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were
unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I
had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

;p ... Do you also believe in fairies and angels?




do you have a decent argument?


Are you anything but a clown? Truthfully, the only reason I bring that up
is to show others how credible you are (not). You are a known net-loon, and
all one has to do is show your words to prove it... words detailing how an
evil "black line" burned your bum.

Oh, here is one argument... something you would wish on the rest of the
world:
http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&id=21544

Go for it... lets have measles and mumps come back just like the good ol'
days. The days when there were special schools for those who became deaf
after getting mumps or measles or just happened to be born with congenital
rubella syndrome. Just let the folks at www.sense.org.uk know where their
remembering of rubella is wrong:
http://www.sense.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres...berrubella.pdf
(though I truly suspect they actually know all about you)

Just let them know that the germ theory is a bunch of bull, and that rubella
does not exist and the real reason for the effects for the bad effects of
rubella during pregnancy (which include deafness, blindness, mental
retardation and even fetal death) were that a satanic black line got too
close to the mother. See how far that gets you.

Oh, and let the NHS know that the mumps resurgence is due to Black Lines...
not by any virus (because germs don't exist in your world). That all the
young men that are getting mumps in universities because they were too old
to get the MMR vaccine when it was introduced in the UK in 1988 (the same
one that had been in use in the USA since 1971) should not really worry
about sterility. It is just a result of their naughty thoughts.

Oh, and ignore the two immune suppressed kids who were blinded and further
disabled by measles... just because they had had kidney transplants. The
measles they got from an unimmunized schoolmate was not a real germ, but
retribution for trying to disobey "God's" decree that they should have died
earlier from the bad organs they got at birth
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...061838,00.html

Because, of course... measles as a virus does not exist in the world where
the "germ theory" does not exist.

This is in a world governed by gods, ley-lines, fairies, goblins and bad
diets. You may want to live in your fairy-tale world, but unfortunately the
victims of the witch-doctors are very real.


  #12  
Old July 26th 06, 09:59 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
john
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"HCN" wrote in message
. ..


pharma drivel deleted

Notice how these pharma boys like to be anonymous

Fact: Measles deaths declined by 99.4% before vax. So no evidence vax did
anything.
Fact: Vitamin C prevents all deaths and disability. Never used by pharma
boys which shows where they are coming from
Fact: Measles is safe if managed properly, even without vitamin C. A
medical naturopath in 1890 never lost anyone to measles
Fact: Over 50% of measles deaths in first world are due to other drugs like
steroids.
Fact: MMR kills and causes ADD, now 1 in 100 kids. At least 26 deaths in UK
caused by MMR.
Fact: Last MMR vaccine was withdrawn as unsafe when it caused meningitis
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr9.html

Note to pharma moron:

Because, of course... measles as a virus does not exist in the world where
the "germ theory" does not exist.


Study the Bechamp cellular disease theory so you know what we believe
http://www.whale.to/v/disease2.html

No where do we say germs don't exist. This is the two theories side by side
http://www.whale.to/v/germ.htm

This is in a world governed by gods, ley-lines, fairies, goblins and bad
diets. You may want to live in your fairy-tale world, but unfortunately
the victims of the witch-doctors are very real.


Yes, they are 780,000 deaths by Allopathy every year in US alone
http://www.whale.to/w/iatrogenic.html

And relying on ad hominem is just an admission you have no argument, and we
know your tag line is "condemnation without investigation is the height of
ignorance"

which is the one for all you ignorant pharma boys

I'll have to put you in my kill file along with the rest



  #13  
Old July 26th 06, 10:42 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
JohnDoe
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john wrote:
"HCN" wrote in message
. ..


pharma drivel deleted

Notice how these pharma boys like to be anonymous

Fact: Measles deaths declined by 99.4% before vax. So no evidence vax did
anything.
Fact: Vitamin C prevents all deaths and disability. Never used by pharma
boys which shows where they are coming from
Fact: Measles is safe if managed properly, even without vitamin C. A
medical naturopath in 1890 never lost anyone to measles
Fact: Over 50% of measles deaths in first world are due to other drugs like
steroids.
Fact: MMR kills and causes ADD, now 1 in 100 kids. At least 26 deaths in UK
caused by MMR.
Fact: Last MMR vaccine was withdrawn as unsafe when it caused meningitis
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr9.html

Note to pharma moron:


Because, of course... measles as a virus does not exist in the world where
the "germ theory" does not exist.



Study the Bechamp cellular disease theory so you know what we believe
http://www.whale.to/v/disease2.html

No where do we say germs don't exist. This is the two theories side by side
http://www.whale.to/v/germ.htm


This is in a world governed by gods, ley-lines, fairies, goblins and bad
diets. You may want to live in your fairy-tale world, but unfortunately
the victims of the witch-doctors are very real.



Yes, they are 780,000 deaths by Allopathy every year in US alone
http://www.whale.to/w/iatrogenic.html

And relying on ad hominem is just an admission you have no argument, and we
know your tag line is "condemnation without investigation is the height of
ignorance"

which is the one for all you ignorant pharma boys

I'll have to put you in my kill file along with the rest


Your birthday parties must be pretty lonely with so many 'friends'.
  #14  
Old July 26th 06, 12:18 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
Jeff
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"Jan Drew" wrote in message
.com...

"Jeff" wrote in message


(...)

Either that or they want *accurate* information on vaccines on the site.
Clearly, the whale.to site is not accurate. The author does not have a
clue about science or medicine.

I guess the editors at wikipedia are doing a good job of keeping only
evidence-based information on medicine present.

Jeff


Like you guessed the FDA was doing it's job?
Wait a minute. That was not a guess......

Guess again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia


No one ever said that the FDA is perfect.

Wiki's aren't perfect.

But if the editors are preventing unproven treatments (aka alternative
medicine) as being represented as having been proven and only allowing
proven information to be represented as proven, then they are doing a good
job.

Jeff


  #15  
Old July 26th 06, 05:24 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
HCN
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Posts: 245
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"john" wrote in message
...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..


pharma drivel deleted

Notice how these pharma boys like to be anonymous

Fact: Measles deaths declined by 99.4% before vax. So no evidence vax did
anything.
Fact: Vitamin C prevents all deaths and disability. Never used by pharma
boys which shows where they are coming from
Fact: Measles is safe if managed properly, even without vitamin C. A
medical naturopath in 1890 never lost anyone to measles
Fact: Over 50% of measles deaths in first world are due to other drugs
like steroids.
Fact: MMR kills and causes ADD, now 1 in 100 kids. At least 26 deaths in
UK caused by MMR.
Fact: Last MMR vaccine was withdrawn as unsafe when it caused meningitis
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr9.html

Note to pharma moron:

Because, of course... measles as a virus does not exist in the world where
the "germ theory" does not exist.


Study the Bechamp cellular disease theory so you know what we believe
http://www.whale.to/v/disease2.html

No where do we say germs don't exist. This is the two theories side by
side http://www.whale.to/v/germ.htm

This is in a world governed by gods, ley-lines, fairies, goblins and bad
diets. You may want to live in your fairy-tale world, but unfortunately
the victims of the witch-doctors are very real.


Yes, they are 780,000 deaths by Allopathy every year in US alone
http://www.whale.to/w/iatrogenic.html


Oh, how wrong you are with your made up numbers:
http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/

(oh, where is the drive to get rid of motor vehicles?)



And relying on ad hominem is just an admission you have no argument, and
we know your tag line is "condemnation without investigation is the height
of ignorance"

which is the one for all you ignorant pharma boys

I'll have to put you in my kill file along with the rest


Oh, goody, this should be fun.






  #16  
Old July 26th 06, 08:39 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
Jan Drew
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"JohnDoe" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"HCN" wrote in message
...



From http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my ass on it
some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a
chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were
unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I
had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

;p ... Do you also believe in fairies and angels?





do you have a decent argument?


It is noted. NO answer.


Does your site have any decent information?


Yes. The indecency organized and conventional medicine.

Plus exposing the liars here... like yourself.

See he site about Peter Bowditch.


  #17  
Old July 26th 06, 08:54 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
Jan Drew
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Posts: 2,707
Default MMR


"Jeff" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
.com...

"Jeff" wrote in message


(...)

Either that or they want *accurate* information on vaccines on the site.
Clearly, the whale.to site is not accurate. The author does not have a
clue about science or medicine.

I guess the editors at wikipedia are doing a good job of keeping only
evidence-based information on medicine present.

Jeff


Like you guessed the FDA was doing it's job?
Wait a minute. That was not a guess......

Guess again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia


No one ever said that the FDA is perfect.


Right. You said (your were glad) they were doing a good job.
When in FACT they were covering up the truth.

Wiki's aren't perfect.

But if the editors are preventing unproven treatments (aka alternative
medicine) as being represented as having been proven and only allowing
proven information to be represented as proven, then they are doing a good
job.

Jeff


If?

The lack of authority, accountability...

Academic circles have not been entirely dismissive of Wikipedia as a source
of information. Wikipedia articles have been referenced in "enhanced
perspectives" provided on-line in the journal Science. The first of these
perspectives to provide a hyperlink to Wikipedia was "A White Collar Protein
Senses Blue Light"[8], and dozens of enhanced perspectives have provided
such links since then. However, these links are offered as background
sources for the reader, not as sources used by the writer, and the "enhanced
perspectives" are not intended to serve as reference material themselves.

Wikipedia contains no formal peer review process for fact-checking.

OOppsssss!


  #18  
Old July 26th 06, 10:03 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
Mark Probert
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Bryan Heit wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Either that or they want *accurate* information on vaccines on the
site. Clearly, the whale.to site is not accurate. The author does not
have a clue about science or medicine.


Johns just bitter because he tried to re-write the vaccine section and
was spanked for filling it with his lies. so now he says the whole
thing is crap, aside from the one or two entries which fit his
perceptions. Those limited number are OK.


John had a section devoted to whale.to. That is also gone.
  #19  
Old July 26th 06, 10:40 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
Mark Probert
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Peter Bowditch wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote:

"JohnDoe" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"HCN" wrote in message
...


From http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my ass on it
some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a
chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were
unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I
had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

;p ... Do you also believe in fairies and angels?




do you have a decent argument?

It is noted. NO answer.

Does your site have any decent information?

Yes. The indecency organized and conventional medicine.

Plus exposing the liars here... like yourself.

See he site about Peter Bowditch.


Please do. It's hilarious. I'm so embarrassed by it that I feature it
on my site and call it a tribute.

You forgot the URL, Jan - http://www.whale.to/a/bowditch.html


WOW! John has all of your useful URLs posted!, What a nice guy.




  #20  
Old July 26th 06, 11:16 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,uk.people.health
HCN
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Posts: 245
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"john" wrote in message
...

"HCN" wrote in message
. ..


.... Study the Bechamp cellular disease theory so you know what we believe
http://www.whale.to/v/disease2.html

No where do we say germs don't exist. This is the two theories side by
side http://www.whale.to/v/germ.htm

.....

I saw this after I posted an earlier reply. The first website is noted in
this blog entry:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/20...ob_and_ral.php

.... it is described as "the nutty arguments against the germ theory"

Yeah, it seems you guys still believe in fairies and goblins... not science.


 




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