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former employees with consciences are great sources of information
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as i have previously posted
The racketeering at CPS agencies is underinvestigated and under
prosecuted. Got any information on how to apply civil RICO to them? |
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former employees with consciences are great sources of information
ooooooooooooh, my..................cps has been around for 40
years..............in case you haven't noticed, the world has changed.................there isn't the money their once was for funding fat make-work socialist bureaucracies.......................but if you want to talk about longevity, tell us long has parenting been around....................... ]:^ runs around her dog lot barking cps has been around for 40 years................cps has been around for 40 years................cps has been around for 40 years................cps has been around for 40 years................cps has been around for 40 years................cps has been around for 40 years................. |
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she's observer
now, you little brainless slimeball, would you like to prove that i am,
was, or ever will be observer...............you like proofs......................now's your time to put up or shut up............ooooooooooooh, by the way, the fact that no one in their right mind likes you very much is not a proof................. ]:^ runs around her dog lot barking................she's observer.......................she's observer.......................she's observer.......................she's observer.......................she's observer.......................she's observer....................... |
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sunshine laws will kill cps
rico is based on conspiracy in selective areas.....................but,
no matter how corrupt, gov'ments exempt themselves from most prosecutions...............the generic name of this protection is sovereign immunity.................that is one reason why gov'ment survive as long as they do................it is also why all gov'ments fail after people have had enough.....................the easiest way to defeat cps is through application of the sixth and fourteenth amendments to the process...............get rid of all the closed proceedings, inquisitions, and tribunals................make the whole process public and transparent..................enforce equal protection and due process.....................an informed public gets rid of gov'ment corruption faster than anything...................that is why gov'ments protect their secrets so carefully.................. gregory asks about applying anti-racketeering statutes to cps................. |
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as i have previously posted
Greegor wrote:
The racketeering at CPS agencies I've seen a few cases, well prosecuted. You know of others? is underinvestigated and under prosecuted. Just how much "investigation" do you feel would be justified? Please show a cost/benefit ratio for the benefit and cost to the public, the taxpayers. Thanks. Got any information on how to apply civil RICO to them? Sure, give it up unless you have some evidence of racketeering. Got any that has not been investigated yet? Take action, or you are not a good citizen. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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As I have reported...
As ypu have reported???? What you claimed was: "1,000 CHILDREN OR MORE DEAD EVERY YEAR AT THE HANDS OF THEY PARENT PRACTICING CP THAT ESCALATED?" Now you are trying to deceive us again by changing it to something else? YOU ARE DESPICABLE, "never-spanked" boy! Doan On Fri, 19 May 2006, 0:- wrote: ...the actual rate of child abuse is of far greater magnitude than is official reported. That child abuse of all kinds is under reported and when reported under investigated is a fact. http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...l/104/1/S1/168 " Comparison of Estimates of Child Maltreatment, 1993-1995 Enumerating reported cases of child abuse and neglect is merely one way to assess the magnitude of the problem. Compared with other medical conditions during childhood, the data indicate that more children are affected by maltreatment than all other serious illnesses combined. There also are many cases of abused and neglected children that do not come to the attention of social service agencies. For example, in studies of child abuse homicide, only 13% to 35% of the victims have physical evidence or documented history of maltreatment.9,10 Waiting for children to be identified by child protective services presumes that "all abused children are detected, and second, that abuse is repetitive".10 In 1995, the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1). Levels of sexual abuse perpetrated by an adult or older child known to the parent were greater than 10 times the official rate. These statistics should serve notice that reported cases represent the lower end of the confidence interval for abuse and neglect. Errors of false-negative assessment are far more likely to be occurring than are errors of false-positive reports." (chart for above narrative at: http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...04/1/S1/168/T1 ) As this information covers only the years of 93-95 it is unlikely the numbers have decreased, but more likely, given the population increase, these have gone up as well in the ensuing years. For those of you that think "spanking" is not involved, have a look at what Gallup was surveying: [from the above quote] "... the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1)." Sixteen times? Now try to figure out if there were actually a 1,000, to 2,000 fatalities AND hundreds of thousands of injuries. Then, of course, there is the often voiced claim that parents do not abuse their children in secret and cause medical conditions: "The underlying assumption is that the parent is the practitioner's ally in concern for the welfare of the child.25 This belief has been sorely questioned by the study published recently involving the use of covert video surveillance. Two hospitals in the United Kingdom with technology for covert video surveillance admitted 39 children with a history of an apparent life-threatening event. There were concerns on the part of the practitioners that the illnesses may have been induced. Southall and colleagues reports that in 33 of the 39 cases initially presenting as an apparent life-threatening event by parental history, there was shocking video documentation of child physical abuse.25 This included attempts at suffocation and poisoning; one child suffered a fracture of the upper extremity. At baseline, it would be interesting to know how often do parents lie or fabricate stories to doctors about their children, and under what circumstances?" I have viewed videos from those sources, by the way, and they were used in a documentary some years back on national TV in the US. Obviously hundreds of thousands of people saw those same images. That ALL the liars in these newsgroups did NOT is beyond belief. You people are lying or seriously mentally compromised. Or, finally, seriously morally compromised if you saw them, remember them, and continue with your lies for your personal reasons. More children are abused, by far, than are reported, and if reported, actually investigated. More are killed, obviously, because it is so very difficult to track a small child's life. They can be killed and the event covered up easily by a parent determined to do so. Continue to be socially irresponsible, if you wish, but don't presume you aren't obvious in your moral decay. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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As I have reported...
Doan wrote:
As ypu have reported???? What you claimed was: "1,000 CHILDREN OR MORE DEAD EVERY YEAR AT THE HANDS OF THEY PARENT PRACTICING CP THAT ESCALATED?" Now you are trying to deceive us again by changing it to something else? Posting additional information on a subject is "deceiving?" Is that why you offer so LITTLE supporting evidence for your wild claims? Afraid you might deceive someone? Hell, you are all about deception, Doan. YOU ARE DESPICABLE, "never-spanked" boy! Coming from you a rare compliment. Imagine, I give you more information corroborating the subjects I bring up and you claim it's to 'deceive.' Would you say the same is true of professors, researchers, doctors, even you plumber, expanding your knowledge with more information? Doan Now you are down to simple desperation, but then you were with the Alina incident, weren't you, Droany? A life of lies and deceptions. Most likely as reaction to finding as a little child your parents really did NOT love you, or they wouldn't have assaulted you then insulted your intelligence by telling you it was because they loved you. 0:- On Fri, 19 May 2006, 0:- wrote: ...the actual rate of child abuse is of far greater magnitude than is official reported. That child abuse of all kinds is under reported and when reported under investigated is a fact. http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...l/104/1/S1/168 " Comparison of Estimates of Child Maltreatment, 1993-1995 Enumerating reported cases of child abuse and neglect is merely one way to assess the magnitude of the problem. Compared with other medical conditions during childhood, the data indicate that more children are affected by maltreatment than all other serious illnesses combined. There also are many cases of abused and neglected children that do not come to the attention of social service agencies. For example, in studies of child abuse homicide, only 13% to 35% of the victims have physical evidence or documented history of maltreatment.9,10 Waiting for children to be identified by child protective services presumes that "all abused children are detected, and second, that abuse is repetitive".10 In 1995, the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1). Levels of sexual abuse perpetrated by an adult or older child known to the parent were greater than 10 times the official rate. These statistics should serve notice that reported cases represent the lower end of the confidence interval for abuse and neglect. Errors of false-negative assessment are far more likely to be occurring than are errors of false-positive reports." (chart for above narrative at: http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...04/1/S1/168/T1 ) As this information covers only the years of 93-95 it is unlikely the numbers have decreased, but more likely, given the population increase, these have gone up as well in the ensuing years. For those of you that think "spanking" is not involved, have a look at what Gallup was surveying: [from the above quote] "... the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1)." Sixteen times? Now try to figure out if there were actually a 1,000, to 2,000 fatalities AND hundreds of thousands of injuries. Then, of course, there is the often voiced claim that parents do not abuse their children in secret and cause medical conditions: "The underlying assumption is that the parent is the practitioner's ally in concern for the welfare of the child.25 This belief has been sorely questioned by the study published recently involving the use of covert video surveillance. Two hospitals in the United Kingdom with technology for covert video surveillance admitted 39 children with a history of an apparent life-threatening event. There were concerns on the part of the practitioners that the illnesses may have been induced. Southall and colleagues reports that in 33 of the 39 cases initially presenting as an apparent life-threatening event by parental history, there was shocking video documentation of child physical abuse.25 This included attempts at suffocation and poisoning; one child suffered a fracture of the upper extremity. At baseline, it would be interesting to know how often do parents lie or fabricate stories to doctors about their children, and under what circumstances?" I have viewed videos from those sources, by the way, and they were used in a documentary some years back on national TV in the US. Obviously hundreds of thousands of people saw those same images. That ALL the liars in these newsgroups did NOT is beyond belief. You people are lying or seriously mentally compromised. Or, finally, seriously morally compromised if you saw them, remember them, and continue with your lies for your personal reasons. More children are abused, by far, than are reported, and if reported, actually investigated. More are killed, obviously, because it is so very difficult to track a small child's life. They can be killed and the event covered up easily by a parent determined to do so. Continue to be socially irresponsible, if you wish, but don't presume you aren't obvious in your moral decay. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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As I have reported...
On Mon, 22 May 2006, 0:- wrote:
Doan wrote: As ypu have reported???? What you claimed was: "1,000 CHILDREN OR MORE DEAD EVERY YEAR AT THE HANDS OF THEY PARENT PRACTICING CP THAT ESCALATED?" Now you are trying to deceive us again by changing it to something else? Posting additional information on a subject is "deceiving?" Misrepresentation is "deceiving"! In other words, you are a LIAR! Is that why you offer so LITTLE supporting evidence for your wild claims? Afraid you might deceive someone? Hell, you are all about deception, Doan. Hihihi! That's you, STUPID! YOU ARE DESPICABLE, "never-spanked" boy! Coming from you a rare compliment. Imagine, I give you more information corroborating the subjects I bring up and you claim it's to 'deceive.' I wasn't meant to be a compliment, STUPID! ;-) Would you say the same is true of professors, researchers, doctors, even you plumber, expanding your knowledge with more information? Hihihi! You are them. You are ignoranus kanus! Doan Now you are down to simple desperation, but then you were with the Alina incident, weren't you, Droany? Hihihi! You meant yours Alina incident, where you accused her, just like you accused beccafromlalaland? A life of lies and deceptions. Most likely as reaction to finding as a little child your parents really did NOT love you, or they wouldn't have assaulted you then insulted your intelligence by telling you it was because they loved you. Hihihi! Just like your mom teaching you to say "smelly-****" because she loved you? ;-) 0:- On Fri, 19 May 2006, 0:- wrote: ...the actual rate of child abuse is of far greater magnitude than is official reported. That child abuse of all kinds is under reported and when reported under investigated is a fact. http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...l/104/1/S1/168 " Comparison of Estimates of Child Maltreatment, 1993-1995 Enumerating reported cases of child abuse and neglect is merely one way to assess the magnitude of the problem. Compared with other medical conditions during childhood, the data indicate that more children are affected by maltreatment than all other serious illnesses combined. There also are many cases of abused and neglected children that do not come to the attention of social service agencies. For example, in studies of child abuse homicide, only 13% to 35% of the victims have physical evidence or documented history of maltreatment.9,10 Waiting for children to be identified by child protective services presumes that "all abused children are detected, and second, that abuse is repetitive".10 In 1995, the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1). Levels of sexual abuse perpetrated by an adult or older child known to the parent were greater than 10 times the official rate. These statistics should serve notice that reported cases represent the lower end of the confidence interval for abuse and neglect. Errors of false-negative assessment are far more likely to be occurring than are errors of false-positive reports." (chart for above narrative at: http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...04/1/S1/168/T1 ) As this information covers only the years of 93-95 it is unlikely the numbers have decreased, but more likely, given the population increase, these have gone up as well in the ensuing years. For those of you that think "spanking" is not involved, have a look at what Gallup was surveying: [from the above quote] "... the Gallup Organization conducted a nationwide survey of parents, exploring the means and range of "discipline" experienced by children throughout the United States.11 Parents' self-reported behaviors of apparent physical abuse occurred at a rate sixteen times the official rate of abuse (Table 1)." Sixteen times? Now try to figure out if there were actually a 1,000, to 2,000 fatalities AND hundreds of thousands of injuries. Then, of course, there is the often voiced claim that parents do not abuse their children in secret and cause medical conditions: "The underlying assumption is that the parent is the practitioner's ally in concern for the welfare of the child.25 This belief has been sorely questioned by the study published recently involving the use of covert video surveillance. Two hospitals in the United Kingdom with technology for covert video surveillance admitted 39 children with a history of an apparent life-threatening event. There were concerns on the part of the practitioners that the illnesses may have been induced. Southall and colleagues reports that in 33 of the 39 cases initially presenting as an apparent life-threatening event by parental history, there was shocking video documentation of child physical abuse.25 This included attempts at suffocation and poisoning; one child suffered a fracture of the upper extremity. At baseline, it would be interesting to know how often do parents lie or fabricate stories to doctors about their children, and under what circumstances?" I have viewed videos from those sources, by the way, and they were used in a documentary some years back on national TV in the US. Obviously hundreds of thousands of people saw those same images. That ALL the liars in these newsgroups did NOT is beyond belief. You people are lying or seriously mentally compromised. Or, finally, seriously morally compromised if you saw them, remember them, and continue with your lies for your personal reasons. More children are abused, by far, than are reported, and if reported, actually investigated. More are killed, obviously, because it is so very difficult to track a small child's life. They can be killed and the event covered up easily by a parent determined to do so. Continue to be socially irresponsible, if you wish, but don't presume you aren't obvious in your moral decay. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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As I have reported...
Doan wrote:
On Mon, 22 May 2006, 0:- wrote: Doan wrote: As ypu have reported???? What you claimed was: "1,000 CHILDREN OR MORE DEAD EVERY YEAR AT THE HANDS OF THEY PARENT PRACTICING CP THAT ESCALATED?" Now you are trying to deceive us again by changing it to something else? Posting additional information on a subject is "deceiving?" Misrepresentation is "deceiving"! And I misrepresented what? In other words, you are a LIAR! You haven't shown that. Is that why you offer so LITTLE supporting evidence for your wild claims? Afraid you might deceive someone? Hell, you are all about deception, Doan. Hihihi! That's you, STUPID! Nope. It's you. YOU ARE DESPICABLE, "never-spanked" boy! Coming from you a rare compliment. Imagine, I give you more information corroborating the subjects I bring up and you claim it's to 'deceive.' I wasn't meant to be a compliment, STUPID! ;-) You thought I believed it was, Stupid? Would you say the same is true of professors, researchers, doctors, even you plumber, expanding your knowledge with more information? Hihihi! You are them. You are ignoranus kanus! You are desperate. And that's all you are. Doan Now you are down to simple desperation, but then you were with the Alina incident, weren't you, Droany? Hihihi! You meant yours Alina incident, where you accused her, just like you accused beccafromlalaland? A life of lies and deceptions. Most likely as reaction to finding as a little child your parents really did NOT love you, or they wouldn't have assaulted you then insulted your intelligence by telling you it was because they loved you. Hihihi! Just like your mom teaching you to say "smelly-****" because she loved you? I can't recall her ever doing that. On the other hand she had no problem with exposing ****heels such as you. You are a supporter of child abuse. That simple enough for you? You likely, if any women is stupid enough to mate with you, will abuse your own children and call it love, and you'll make them as sick as you are. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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