and where are you from?..

Buzzy Bee wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:58:09 -0500, Vicky Bilaniuk
wrote:
but then again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!


What is BST? Double BST? And what's the story about what they did with
this in WWII?


BST is British Summer Time - what we call daylight savings here.
During WWII they permanently added an hour all year round, then added
an *extra* hour during the summer, to increase evening hours of
daylight and lessen the effect of the blackout.

Thanks. That's a bummer that they went back to regular time and regular
BST, then.

Welches wrote:

GMT= Greenwich Mean Time (I assume that's your standard)

Yes, although there is a move to stop using it, apparently. They are
using UMT, now, or something weird like that. Universal time, but I
forget the short version.

BST is the hour forward from GMT ie. the summer timing.
In WWII they changed to have GMT + 1hr (=BST) during the winter, and GMT
+2hrs (=BST+1hr=double BST) in the summer. It gave more light before the
blackout. They do talk from time to time about changing to this, but are
worried that there would be more accidents (esp. children going to school)
in the morning when it's dark.

This is what I don't understand. Where I live, it was always dark when
I got up to go to school (and just barely cracking dawn while I was on
the bus). OK, perhaps the city kids who only had to walk 5 minutes
could get to see some daylight, but I was a country kid and I had a 45
minute bus ride. It never bothered me too much to go in the dark. It
was better to come home and still have some daylight left. I would
think it more dangerous to let the kids play outside at night. I know
that most parents don't do that - they make the kids stay in, but I
think that kids should be able to go out.


I used to get confused about which way, but someone told me "spring forward,
fall back" and (although we say autumn rather than fall) it's a great way of
remembering.

That's the common way of remembering it around here, too. ;-)

Northern lights only visible from Orkney Isles. (that's north of

Scotland)

Too bad. We don't get them much here, either (too far south as well),
but we get them once in a while and it's a *real* treat. This winter,
there was one that had the stereotypical howling wolves to go along with
it, just a bit north of our city. It was awesome. I was standing there
taking pictures, wondering what I would do if the wolves suddenly showed
up. ;-) They sounded like they were not too far away. I've never
experienced anything more surreal than standing there looking at a
shimmering pink and green sky full of stars and with wolves singing in
the background. Well, one thing came close, and that was this period of
day after day with glorious sunsets that turned the *entire* sky pink (I
mean I honestly thought I knew what it would be like to be on another
planet that didn't have a blue sky - those sunsets were so amazing that
there was not a speck of blue to be seen). The world looked like
someone had run it through Photoshop. We suffer the bitter cold, so at
least we get neat things to look at.

In article , ldss1
@bigpond.com says...
The post about european posters got me thinking.

Where are you all from??

I'm from Alice Springs, Australia.

Cleveland, Ohio!

-kim (due 8-7)

"Buzzy Bee" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:54:54 -0500, Vicky Bilaniuk
wrote:
but then again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!

We do both standard and daylight here, and I have to tell you that
daylight savings time is the BEST. I wish that we would do away with
standard time completely.

I have to agree - would rather have it light in the evening than at
6am! We still have a few weeks to go and its already light way too
early for my liking here!

Megan

Oh but its not the light I can't stand ... its the heat. Since it
ordinarily stays hot here until about 8:30 pm. At least in the morning we
can get up and go for a walk / get things done while it is still cool.
I can understand Tasmanians and New Zealanders (substitute any other part
of the world which is not in the tropics or sub-tropics) liking it, but we
do not want it here. We tried it in the past and it just doesn't work.

Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003
EDD 19th August 2004

In XAJ5c.1826$PA5.262@newsfe1-win,
Welches wrote:

*How many could name most/all states without looking them up? I'll admit I
*couldn't do all the counties in Britain either.

What, just name the states? I imagine most people can. Right??
I can do it fine, but I have to sing it. I guess most of my peers at least
recall learning this song in grade school:

Fifty Nifty United States from thirteen original colonies
Fifty Nifty stars in the flag that billows so beautifully in the breeze
Each individual state contributes a quality that is great
Each individual state deserves a bow. We salute them now.

Fifty nifty United States from thirteen original colonies,
Shout `em, scout `em, Tell all about `em,
one by one till we've given a day
to ev'ry state in the U.S.A.


Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut;
Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana;
Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts,
Michigan;
Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada;
New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North
Dakota, Ohio;
Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South
Dakota, Tennessee, Texas;
Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.


(Repeat states again a little faster, then continue below)

North, South, East, West in our calm, objective opinion, Washington is the
best of the

Fifty Nifty United States from thirteen original colonies,
Shout `em, scout `em, Tell all about `em,
one by one till we've given a day
to ev'ry state in the good old
U.--------S.---------A.----------!!

*I have to add that I hadn't heard of over half of the states, and don't know
*much about the ones I have heard of, certainly couldn't place them on a map.

Well, I could label a map probably about 75% correctly but probably not
100% correctly

How many counties are there in Britain? I certainly couldn't even name all
the counties in PA

--
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"uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est."
not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large

Hillary Israeli wrote:

In XAJ5c.1826$PA5.262@newsfe1-win,
Welches wrote:

*How many could name most/all states without looking them up? I'll admit I
*couldn't do all the counties in Britain either.

What, just name the states? I imagine most people can. Right??
I can do it fine, but I have to sing it. I guess most of my peers at least
recall learning this song in grade school:

snip

I suspect I could name them all, but I never heard
the song you typed in! I'd just do it geographically
(east to west, north to south) until I had 'em all.
I certainly had to do that in school (along with state
capitals). Then there were all the presidents, terms in
office, and party, plus goodness knows what other stuff
to memorize. States were pretty easy by comparison. Now,
the Preamble to the Constitution was the one my class
were all humming under their breath during exam time...
"We the People..." ;-) Schoolhouse Rock rocks!

Best wishes,
Ericka

Welches wrote:
How many could name most/all states without looking them up? I'll admit I
couldn't do all the counties in Britain either.
I have to add that I hadn't heard of over half of the states, and don't know
much about the ones I have heard of, certainly couldn't place them on a map.
I can pass on a tip that one of my tutors at Uni.. gave me:
"soil technicians from Alabama are the most boring people to meet in
Greenland!" (he'd just come back from a conference of mathematical modelling
of glaciers in Greenland)

I once took a course in world geography, because I was sick of the
Canadian-centric geography courses that they made us all take (why oh
why do they think that learning about our own country is the only
important thing to do). Anyway, the US was definitely a big item in
that course, and learning the states was mandatory. I *think* I can
still do it now, even though that was years ago. I also loved learning
where they all were on a map. I also loved learning similar things
about Europe, another complicated place. :-) I think we spent as much
time on Europe, or perhaps more, as we did on the states. The rest of
the world was a lot easier. (I really struggled with that date line
thing, though)

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:54:54 -0500, Vicky Bilaniuk
wrote:

We do both standard and daylight here, and I have to tell you that
daylight savings time is the BEST. I wish that we would do away with
standard time completely.

Daylight savings time all year round? Yep, I would be happy with
that. I don't care what time they pick. Just pick one and stick with
it.

There was a valid reason to have daylight savings time during WWI
(which is when it started). The governments just kept it after that.
There is no reason to have 2 times in this day and age. I wished I
lived in one of those places that doesn't have DST.

The history of DST can be found he

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/e.html

--
Daye
Momma to Jayan and Leopold
See Jayan and Leo: http://www.aloofhosting.com/jayleo/
Updated 28 Feb 2004

I guess most of my peers at least
recall learning this song in grade school:

Fifty Nifty United States from thirteen original colonies
Fifty Nifty stars in the flag that billows so beautifully in the breeze
Each individual state contributes a quality that is great
Each individual state deserves a bow. We salute them now.

[clip]

Hillary, you know the weirdest stuff. ;-) I've never heard that song before
in my life. (And I know we're the same age.)

I am pretty sure, however, that I could name all 50 states. Though it might be
one of those things where I'd forget two or three of them and the names would
then pop into my head in the middle of the night a week later. g

*I have to add that I hadn't heard of over half of the states, and don't know
*much about the ones I have heard of, certainly couldn't place them on a map.

Well, I could label a map probably about 75% correctly but probably not
100% correctly


That's probably about how well I could do. I know I don't know the relative
positions of all those tiny ones on the East Coast, and the various square ones
in the Great Plains are easy to get confused with each other too. ;-)

Holly
Mom to Camden, 3yo
EDD #2 6/8/04

Ericka Kammerer writes:
: Hillary Israeli wrote:

: In XAJ5c.1826$PA5.262@newsfe1-win,
: Welches wrote:
:
: *How many could name most/all states without looking them up? I'll admit I
: *couldn't do all the counties in Britain either.
:
: What, just name the states? I imagine most people can. Right??
: I can do it fine, but I have to sing it. I guess most of my peers at least
: recall learning this song in grade school:

: snip

: I suspect I could name them all, but I never heard
: the song you typed in! I'd just do it geographically
: (east to west, north to south) until I had 'em all.
: I certainly had to do that in school (along with state
: capitals). Then there were all the presidents, terms in
: office, and party, plus goodness knows what other stuff
: to memorize. States were pretty easy by comparison. Now,
: the Preamble to the Constitution was the one my class
: were all humming under their breath during exam time...
: "We the People..." ;-) Schoolhouse Rock rocks!

: Best wishes,
: Ericka

Yes. I have to close my eyes and imagine a map on the back
of my eyelids!

Larry