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Another award for EDTA pushers
From the 2005 Millenium Awards
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/histor...2005awards.htm Quote of the Year Curtis Tocco "Majusmaximum" "JB" Abubakar Tariq Nadama was a 5-year-old boy who died on August 23, 2005, because his parents went to a quack who claimed that chelation could cure autism. There was a three-way tie for Quote of the Year by quackery supporters commenting on his death. During the year I received an email from a professional anti-vaccination liar named Mary Tocco. (I called her a professional because she makes a living charging people to hear her tell lies about vaccines.) Someone named Curtis Tocco (whom I later found was the egregious Mary's son) wrote me a rather aggressive email using words that, even at my age, I wouldn't use in front of my mother. We had a short exchange of emails and I ended one with the following words: "Have a nice day. Abubakar Tariq Nadama won't be able to do that, because his mother believed anti-vaccination liars like Mary Tocco and now he's dead". Curtis Tocco's reply to me appears below. The expression "lol" means "laughing out loud". He thought that a child's death was a laughing matter. "lol,Well he probably would have died sooner if he had gotten vaccines". The second winner was someone too cowardly to use its real name and calling itself "Majusmaximum", who posted the following message to the Usenet group misc.kids.health: "The boy who died from EDTA chelation treatment would be just as dead if it had been done to him for lead poisoning". Someone signing themself "JB" but using what appeared to be a real and identifiable email address sent a message to the Evidence of Harm mailing list at Yahoo! in which they admitted that they were exposing their own child to the same risk from the same form of quackery. They had this to say about Abubakar: "He is a true soldier in the struggle we are all facing" -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
Reality check:
780,000 killed by allopathy every year in the USA alone and my award for quack medicine of the century goes to vaccination http://www.vaccination.org.uk/b/hoax1.html that kills at least 100 kids every year in the USA alone "Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... From the 2005 Millenium Awards http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/histor...2005awards.htm Quote of the Year Curtis Tocco "Majusmaximum" "JB" Abubakar Tariq Nadama was a 5-year-old boy who died on August 23, 2005, because his parents went to a quack who claimed that chelation could cure autism. There was a three-way tie for Quote of the Year by quackery supporters commenting on his death. During the year I received an email from a professional anti-vaccination liar named Mary Tocco. (I called her a professional because she makes a living charging people to hear her tell lies about vaccines.) Someone named Curtis Tocco (whom I later found was the egregious Mary's son) wrote me a rather aggressive email using words that, even at my age, I wouldn't use in front of my mother. We had a short exchange of emails and I ended one with the following words: "Have a nice day. Abubakar Tariq Nadama won't be able to do that, because his mother believed anti-vaccination liars like Mary Tocco and now he's dead". Curtis Tocco's reply to me appears below. The expression "lol" means "laughing out loud". He thought that a child's death was a laughing matter. "lol,Well he probably would have died sooner if he had gotten vaccines". The second winner was someone too cowardly to use its real name and calling itself "Majusmaximum", who posted the following message to the Usenet group misc.kids.health: "The boy who died from EDTA chelation treatment would be just as dead if it had been done to him for lead poisoning". Someone signing themself "JB" but using what appeared to be a real and identifiable email address sent a message to the Evidence of Harm mailing list at Yahoo! in which they admitted that they were exposing their own child to the same risk from the same form of quackery. They had this to say about Abubakar: "He is a true soldier in the struggle we are all facing" -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... During the year I received an email from a professional anti-vaccination liar you lot should know http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ploy5.html talk about professional! All sitting on the Great Smallpox Lie, the lie of all lies Repetition of Lies Lying through ignorance Vaccine leaflet lies 'Safe' vaccine lie The 'vaccines are effective' lie The only way lie The Smallpox Lie Vaccines are 'adequately tested' lie Medical Diagnosis lie Epidemic Fearmongering lie The 'Independent' lie Lying with the Truth Lying with silence Lying by omission The lies of Allopathy |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... From the 2005 Millenium Awards http://www.ratbags.com/rsolesLIES snip Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: (Jan) - Find messages by this author Date: 03 Dec 2004 00:47:52 GMT Local: Thurs, Dec 2 2004 7:47 pm Subject: Quackpot news: FTC Vindicates Hulda Clark.... Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Subject: Quackpot news: FTC Vindicates Hulda Clark.... From: Peter Bowditch Date: 12/1/2004 11:31 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: (Jan) wrote: Subject: Quackpot news: FTC Vindicates Hulda Clark.... From: Peter Bowditch Date: 12/1/2004 7:55 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: (Jan) wrote: From: Peter Bowditch Please remember that Clark and her legal team care about nothing but money. Please remember that this is an utter lie.Peter doesn't know Hulda, I do. I have previously explained how she lives and she has no love of money and fine things. Clark did not sue me for defamation. Clark sued me because she claimed I damaged her income from book sales So you say. I refer you to http://www.healthfreedomlaw.com/Cour...0Lawsuit/Monda... y23200127.JPG Much truth then, nothing about you damaging her income from book sales. http://www.healthfreedomlaw.com/Cour...0Lawsuit/Monda... y23200128.JPG Much truth then, nothing about you damaging her income from book sales. Note that these are not pages on my web site - they belong to Carlos Negrete. Your apology is acceptable at any time. I apologize when one is needed, unlike you. I refer you to: http://tinyurl.com/3s7go and http://tinyurl.com/4qxyf and http://tinyurl.com/63aah That showed how she values money over even her reputation. Wrong. The lives and welfare of her victims are of no concern at all to her. That a total complete despicable lie coming from a liar, himself. As I have never been shown to be a liar, the last part of that sentence is meaningless. Now you are lying again, indeed you have been shown to be a liar and deceiver. You never could explain your lies. If you are referring to my opinion that someone who mentions the death of a child at the rate of three times a day in order to denigrate conventional medicine is using the death of the child to denigrate conventional medicine, then you cannot be referring to a lie of any kind. You are referring to anopinion backed by facts. Do post the facts. === These are your EXACT words: Some proponents of "alternative medicine" have tried to make an issue out of Ben's death, apparently on the basis that a mistake made by real doctors somehow has something to do with children dying because pretend doctors treat them with snake oil. So far you haven't been able to copy and paste where you got that idea. And you can't, can you Peter? So that is LIE # 1. Then you stated: You can read about Ben athttp://www.krupnicklaw.com/site/press/healing.htm This site belongs tot he lawyers who represented Ben's parents at the time. The attitude ofthe parents' lawyers stands in stark contrast to the way " So far you haven't been able to copy and paste WHERE or WHO had this stark contrast. And you can't, can you Peter? So that is LIE # 2 You also stated: "alternative medicine" supporters attempt to demonise the people who made a tragic mistake. So far, you haven't been able to copy and paste who demonized anyone. And you can't, can you Peter? So that is LIE # 3. Jan -- Peter Bowditch |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
"john" wrote in message ... Reality check: 780,000 killed by allopathy every year in the USA alone and my award for quack medicine of the century goes to vaccination http://www.vaccination.org.uk/b/hoax1.html I feel I need to comment on the claim children have better nutrition then in the past. This is not true. Our children have never been fatter than they are now. Their diet is high in sugars and fats from the large amounts of nutrient poor Fast Food which is low in nutrition. They eat unhealthy high fat and high carbohydrate foods like never before. Our children have more adult-onset diabetes now, starting at younger and younger ages. They are "overnourished" today on sugar and fat. In the past children had better balanced meals and drank juice or milk, not sugar loaded soda pop. They had fruit for snacks or perhaps a home baked roll or biscuit with butter. Children then were well nourished and slender for the most part. They did not suffer from obesity, asthma and diabetes as they do now. |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
"Täcklô" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... Reality check: 780,000 killed by allopathy every year in the USA alone and my award for quack medicine of the century goes to vaccination http://www.vaccination.org.uk/b/hoax1.html I feel I need to comment on the claim children have better nutrition then in the past. This is not true. Our children have never been fatter than they are now. Their diet is high in sugars and fats from the large amounts of nutrient poor Fast Food which is low in nutrition. They eat unhealthy high fat and high carbohydrate foods like never before. Our children have more adult-onset diabetes now, starting at younger and younger ages. They are "overnourished" today on sugar and fat. In the past children had better balanced meals and drank juice or milk, not sugar loaded soda pop. They had fruit for snacks or perhaps a home baked roll or biscuit with butter. Children then were well nourished and slender for the most part. They did not suffer from obesity, asthma and diabetes as they do now. Hip HIp Hooray! |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
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john wrote: Reality check: 780,000 killed by allopathy every year in the USA alone Try "unreality check." Your numbers are based on the worthless "study" by Gary Null et al. It blames all deaths from bedsores and malnutrition on the doctors. and my award for quack medicine of the century goes to vaccination http://www.vaccination.org.uk/b/hoax1.html that kills at least 100 kids every year in the USA alone Even if you're right, which would be a first, it saves the lives of far more than 100. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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Another award for EDTA pushers
"Täcklô" wrote in message ... I feel I need to comment on the claim children have better nutrition then in the past. This is not true. Our children have never been fatter than they are now. Their diet is high in sugars and fats from the large amounts of nutrient poor Fast Food which is low in nutrition. They eat unhealthy high fat and high carbohydrate foods like never before. Our children have more adult-onset diabetes now, starting at younger and younger ages. They are "overnourished" today on sugar and fat. In the past children had better balanced meals and drank juice or milk, not sugar loaded soda pop. They had fruit for snacks or perhaps a home baked roll or biscuit with butter. Children then were well nourished and slender for the most part. They did not suffer from obesity, asthma and diabetes as they do now. True, they are sicker now than the 50's, all due to vaccines and junk food http://www.whale.to/b/junk.html |
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