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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
The Sunday Mirror today reports on a woman who, at 58, is the country's oldest mother of twins. Janet Bosher and her partner, Martin, sought the help of Professor Ian Craft, whose London-based clinic is the only one in Britain offering fertility treatment to people over 50. Janet gave birth to the twins last September. "I'll never forget the feeling of utter joy and love when I saw the twins," Bosher told the Sunday Mirror. "I was in tears. I felt so lucky and couldn't quite believe that I'd actually carried these two beautiful little babies inside me." Professor Craft's clinic was responsible for Europe's first IVF twins in 1982 as well as in 1997, when 60-year-old Liz Buttle became Britain's oldest mother. Sadly, Janet's partner, Martin Maslin, passed away two weeks ago after suffering a heart attack. More |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
Shannon wrote:
There is no way a 58 year old should be having kids. Tell that to men, then. If you are healthy, why not. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
"Truffles" wrote in message ... Shannon wrote: There is no way a 58 year old should be having kids. Tell that to men, then. If you are healthy, why not. I suspect nature has a reason for preventing pregnancies after a certain age in females. Why not? I can think of a ton of reasons |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
Nina wrote:
"Truffles" wrote in message ... Shannon wrote: There is no way a 58 year old should be having kids. Tell that to men, then. If you are healthy, why not. I suspect nature has a reason for preventing pregnancies after a certain age in females. Why not? I can think of a ton of reasons Ah, but, we are beyond nature now. Without medical intervention, nature would not let us live as long as we do now, or have as healthy of children, or on a personal note, survive childbirth. Nature, is no longer a factor in the lives of mankind, nor has it been for quite a while. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
That's a pretty rude comment to make about an elder peson whether it's a
troll or not. How would you feel if someone stereotyped you at age 59 using a walker and such. "Marie" wrote in message ... Shannon wrote in message ... There is no way a 58 year old should be having kids. How dare you make such a comment! I am 59 and had my baby 2 months ago. I hang her in her Snugli from my walker and my boobs droop so low I don't even have to pick her up to feed her. My grandchildren babysit so I can have time alone with the old geezer. ;o) Marie |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
Truffles wrote in message ...
Shannon wrote: There is no way a 58 year old should be having kids. Tell that to men, then. If you are healthy, why not. Indeed. I used to feel as some of the other posters do -- that perhaps the health risks and the effort and money involved in restarting a system that has shut down naturally were a bit much, but I got roundly thrashed for daring to suggest that anyone not do whatever she pleases. Well, I thought about it for awhile and I think they are correct: all interventions are good. I used to think that it would be good to avoid interventions -- if you wish to -- for health reasons, but I don't anymore. If a 58-year-old woman can have pre-eclampsia and give birth by caesarian, I can't see why people need to worry about much younger women going through the same thing. I looked up this mother and she did indeed have a caesarian; I have no idea whether or not she suffered from pre-eclampsia, which is common with much older mothers. Surely what is good for these women must be just as good for everyone else who desires it. If she is happy, it's her life and good luck to her. Lynne |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
H Schinske wrote:
wrote: Nature, is no longer a factor in the lives of mankind, nor has it been for quite a while. That's a little strong :-) Gravity didn't go away when we invented airplanes. LOL! You're right. I should have said we manipulate nature and natural forces to suit our needs all the time. Actually, we have been doing so for all of our history. Clothing, fire, etc. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:45:02 GMT, "Magenta"
wrote: How would you feel if someone stereotyped you at age 59 using a walker and such. Given that I have people in my family in their 70s and beyond that don't need walkers. -- ==Daye== Momma to Jayan #2 EDD 11 Jan 2004 E-mail: brendana AT labyrinth DOT net DOT au |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
"Circe" wrote in message news:DJFRa.11299$u51.2230@fed1read05...
Lynne M. wrote: I can't see why people need to worry about much younger women going through the same thing. I looked up this mother and she did indeed have a caesarian; FWIW, since vaginal births of twins are relatively rare, it's not all that surprising she had a c-section; the vast majority of much younger women having twins wind up having c-sections because doctors are nervous about attempting vaginal deliveries unless both babies are vertex. Sometimes, you can get away with attempting a vaginal birth if the presenting twin is vertex and the other is a frank breech. But if the presenting twin is breech or the presenting twin is vertex while the other is a footling or partial breech, you won't find a doctor anywhere willing to deliver them vaginally. Agreed, but I also read the study that tracked about 80 post-menopausal women who did the same as this mother, and they nearly all had caesarians with their singletons. So, while I agree with your explanation of twins, it seems like post-menopausal women are much likelier to experience pre-eclampsia and caesarians anyway. Well, if they can have caesarians with their babies, why should we be worrying about the risks to younger women? Surely they must be minuscule. I can't imagine that people are going to argue that somehow this is actually safer when you are 30 years older. Btw, how many of these older women do you think breastfeed? I really have no idea, but I'll bet not many. Well, if they don't need to do it, or can't, why is it important for younger women and their babies? In my own mind, I have simply turned this around, deciding that younger women must be weenies to be complaining about their discomforts or worries. If their mothers can do it, surely they can suck it up as well. I do agree that pregnancy and birth seems to carry some fairly heavy risks for post-menopausal mothers and their babies. And certainly, those risks ought to be considered when deciding whether or not to undertake a pregnancy at such an age. That said, I can't get particularly "het up" about 58yo women becoming mothers from a *moral* POV; men, after all, have been becoming fathers at such advanced ages for centuries. -- Indeed. If worse comes to worse and this single mother dies or becomes incapacitated due to age-related problems, surely her children won't be any worse off than the kids of younger people who never managed to get their lives together in the first place. At least these twins won't have to cope with a bewildering parade of half-brothers and sisters, or relatives who come and go as relationships start and end. Unless, of course, she decides to do this again.... Lynne |
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Woman of 58 gives birth to twins after successful IVF treatment
"Truffles" wrote in message ... Nina wrote: snip Ah, but, we are beyond nature now. Without medical intervention, nature would not let us live as long as we do now, or have as healthy of children, or on a personal note, survive childbirth. The vast majority of women can survive childbirth just fine without medical intervention. And it is impossible in the vast majority of even "necessary" interventions to say that they truly would have been necessary in a different environment. I certainly would have survived childbirth without medical intervention, and I had all the bells and whistles available. They did nothing but slow me down and interfere with the process. That said, 50+year olds having kids, assisted reproduction or not, doesn't bother me. Some of the best parents I know are grandparents parenting their own grandchildren. Jenrose |
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