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Old February 25th 07, 01:49 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Remeber this, Doan? IS THERE LIFE ON PLANET KANE? ANNOUNCEMENT

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:51:00 GMT, " KRP"
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, 0:-] wrote:


So what do you think of Mr. Pangborn's keeping his word, Doan?


What "word" was that? I said I'd leave for a time and did.


No, the word I'm interested in is that now you are back you follow
through on your claim.

But I see
your hysterical desperation trying to re-enlist my psycho stalker to come
rescue you again by pettifogging the issues. That is, in between your rather
loud self congratulation, as being a victor in your insipid little debate.


This post goes to, along with the dad'srights group, three related
newsgroups. Hence, it's not an insipid little debate.

It's about the effects of corporal punishment on children. Something
you have run from, lied about, changed my words to change my meaning,
claimed I said things I didn't (and you got caught at it) AND YOU RAN.

On the issue of sociopathy in non-disciplined children, I said I'd prove
that point AFTER you proved your claim that spanking CAUSES aggression in
children.


Well I made no such claim, dummy, so you are now caught in your own
vacuous attempt to create an unanswerable question, aren't you?

Ron caught you putting those words in my mouth, Ken. I never made such
a claim. In fact I denounced, right along with you, the claim that
existed in only one place in our discussion....the title of an article
ABOUT a study. The study made no such claim, and neither did I.


Since you have conceded that your original claim was bull****,


You are lying. I made no such claim that "spanking CAUSES anything."
The article (not the study at all) said, "Leads to," and YOU made the
presumption that "leads to" perforce MUST mean "causes."

I did NOT support the position that "leads to," in this context (since
both the article and the study itself did NOT make the claim of
"cause") so you are lying, or simply mistaken.

If you KNOW otherwise and can prove it, please do. Show where I
defended a claim of "cause" about the study.

Or don't you wish to discuss the study and want to continue the
niggling bull**** with the title of an article refering to the study?

I
am not under any obligation to prove what I said.


You never have been. I've simply asked you to and am quite willing to
call you a liar, unless you concede that you were wrong to make such a
claim as you did. Did you not claim the "study" was not a study
because it did not show "causal" relationship of spanking to behavior?

We, dummy, it NEVER MADE ANY SUCH CLAIM AND NEITHER DID I.

But you want to stay away from that study (which most certainly WAS a
study). Right?

Secondly you made a claim that non-spanking leads to sociopathy in
children.


Get back to me when you
CAN prove that spanking causes aggression Kane.


There is no such proof. Prove you own moon rocks, Ken. The two
questions are in the same category.

Ask me a question that deals with a claim I actually made. I made no
such claim.

Not until! Now - please - go
on trying to make gullible people think you won a debate you LOST!


They don't have to be gullible. They only need to be breathing and
thinking, Ken. I did not lose a debate. YOU RAN FROM IT.

Claiming I said something I didn't. Ron caught you at it and you've
never refuted his exposure of you, nor mine of you on that issue.

Show were I claimed the study showed CAUSE, little man.

A debate
where your pants were yanked down and your ass blackened.


Not hardly, little boy. It's you that got your ass kicked and now run
when I ask for proof of your claims.

Did I make you
aggressive or were you a "prikk" before I even first encountered you?


When did you stop ****ing little boys?

Grow
up little boy and just lick your wounds. Feel free to call for help from
your HERO... You NEED him!


No I don't. You are easy, stupid.

Not even Doan can lie sufficiently for you (and he's a very determined
liar) on this one.

Go ahead, show us where I defended the study as being causal.

Then get crackin' on (or conceded you lied, or was mistaken and
stupid, and ignorant) your claim about non-spanking producing
sociopathy in children.

You are still a fraud, Ken. And I'm happy to rub your nose in it.

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