JEFF P UTZ'S LIE ABOUT IMPLANTS

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:22:28 GMT, "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-July 31,
2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote:


"CP" wrote in message
. com...
According to this site
(http://www.sabin.org/programs_open_vaccine.htm), Mr. Putz signed in
from NJ. However, a check of the NJ Physician's list and the AMA have
no record of a Jeffrey Utz as a physician of anything in New Jersey.

One may have an MD degree and devote all their time to reasearch and not
patient care. Thus, neither list that you referred to would have them
listed. An MD degree is conferred for life, and not dependent on whether one
is licensed.


So is a law degree ... do you have one?

"CP" wrote in message
om...
According to this site
(http://www.sabin.org/programs_open_vaccine.htm), Mr. Putz signed in
from NJ. However, a check of the NJ Physician's list and the AMA have
no record of a Jeffrey Utz as a physician of anything in New Jersey.

Go way, Little Boy. When you grow up and learn how to read, perhaps
you will recognize the evidence of 440,000 women sickened with toxic
breast implants. And you can believe the manufacturers knew in the
late 50's to mid 60's exactly how damaging the silicone was. The
silicone cats have been scratching sand in the litter box ever since
covering up the truth.

Pam Dowd

Show me the evidence that breast implants were the cause of these 440,000
women's problems. Real, pee-reviewed evidence.

Jeff

(CP) wrote in message . com...
According to this site
(http://www.sabin.org/programs_open_vaccine.htm), Mr. Putz signed in
from NJ. However, a check of the NJ Physician's list and the AMA have
no record of a Jeffrey Utz as a physician of anything in New Jersey.

I had no problem finding Dr. Utz's credentials. You just didn't look
into it very thoroughly. [BTW -- *many* docs don't belong to the AMA,
which is not a regulatory agency.]

Whether one agrees with his POV WRT breast implants or not (& I don't
see eye-to-eye with him myself on every point), he is indeed a doctor.
Casting false suspicions about his credentials based on sloppy
research doesn't change that.

On 1 Aug 2004 09:26:53 -0700, (Michele) wrote:



Whether one agrees with his POV WRT breast implants or not (& I don't
see eye-to-eye with him myself on every point), he is indeed a doctor.
Casting false suspicions about his credentials based on sloppy
research doesn't change that.


He has had years to provide proof ... what he has done is demanded
money ...

I watched him for years be nothing more than a Parrot for Barrett &
Polevoy and the other Healthfrauds ... they'd post their Pharma Cartel
backed garbage on the HealthFraud List ... and like a Parrot he or
"Marla" would post it here ... making inane statements such as he did
with breast implants.

Only Quacks would play this game ... if indeed he is a doctor, and is
advertising himself as such on Usenet ... there is no valid reason for
refusing for years to provide proof.

Ilena Rose wrote in message . ..
On 1 Aug 2004 09:26:53 -0700, (Michele) wrote:



Whether one agrees with his POV WRT breast implants or not (& I don't
see eye-to-eye with him myself on every point), he is indeed a doctor.
Casting false suspicions about his credentials based on sloppy
research doesn't change that.


He has had years to provide proof ... what he has done is demanded
money ...

Who does he have to prove himself to? In less than 10 minutes I was
able to locate his credentials. You can also, I'm sure.

You've also been asked questions you've given no answers to. I'm sure
both you & Dr. Utz have legitimate reasons for not simply giving
direct responses WRT some posters' queries. I'm assuming neither of
you have sinister motives for doing so.

I watched him for years be nothing more than a Parrot for Barrett &
Polevoy and the other Healthfrauds ... they'd post their Pharma Cartel
backed garbage on the HealthFraud List ... and like a Parrot he or
"Marla" would post it here ... making inane statements such as he did
with breast implants.

Only Quacks would play this game ... if indeed he is a doctor, and is
advertising himself as such on Usenet

Oh, he is.....

... there is no valid reason for
refusing for years to provide proof.

I don't know his reasons (& neither do you) -- anymore than I know why
you don't answer some of the questions asked of you, such as those
regarding the operation of a non-profit organization from outside the
country, etc.

I don't agree with some of Dr. Utz's POV WRT breast implants, but he
has nothing to prove about his right to call himself a doctor. The
information answering questions about him is easily found.

On 2 Aug 2004 07:46:52 -0700, (Michele) wrote:



I don't know his reasons (& neither do you) -- anymore than I know why
you don't answer some of the questions asked of you, such as those
regarding the operation of a non-profit organization from outside the
country, etc.


You claim to know where I spend my time, that's interesting.


You think that the law does not allow directors of non profits to
travel?

Breast implants are being marketed and hyped throughout the US and
Central and South America ... I am free to take my message wherever I
choose to ... and do.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

Mr. Jeff Utz,

As far as I know, the only way anyone can tell you are a pediatrician
is because you say so and have posted that title on bulletin boards.
If you are a researcher in the pediatric field, then God help the
children on whose behalf you are researching. Last time I looked,
serious medical researchers were too busy looking for medical answers
to health problems to spend time haunting news groups, tossing out
dubious comments.

Our government collected the medical records of 440,000 women and the
breast implant manufacturers have been paying off on the very diseases
they publicly state don't exist. Dow Corning is beginning to pay on
these diseases. There are over 80 million documents in a Federal
Breast Implant Depository in Birmingham, AL that prove the connection
with silicone gel and illness and the cover-up that has gone on for
over 40 years. I have personally reviewed thousands of those
documents, many of which I have OCRd and have been posted here.
Apparently you have done nothing more than read the manufacturer
released news clips.

Since you have nothing better to do with your time, take a trip to
Birmingham, sit in the depository, and start reading. When you get
educated, come back.

See you in about 10 years.

Pam Dowd


"Jeff" wrote in message ...
"CP" wrote in message
om...
According to this site
(http://www.sabin.org/programs_open_vaccine.htm), Mr. Putz signed in
from NJ. However, a check of the NJ Physician's list and the AMA have
no record of a Jeffrey Utz as a physician of anything in New Jersey.

Go way, Little Boy. When you grow up and learn how to read, perhaps
you will recognize the evidence of 440,000 women sickened with toxic
breast implants. And you can believe the manufacturers knew in the
late 50's to mid 60's exactly how damaging the silicone was. The
silicone cats have been scratching sand in the litter box ever since
covering up the truth.

Pam Dowd

Show me the evidence that breast implants were the cause of these 440,000
women's problems. Real, pee-reviewed evidence.

Jeff

On 2 Aug 2004 12:00:24 -0700, (CP) wrote:

Mr. Jeff Utz,

As far as I know, the only way anyone can tell you are a pediatrician
is because you say so and have posted that title on bulletin boards.
If you are a researcher in the pediatric field, then God help the
children on whose behalf you are researching.


Amen and Halllelujah Pam.

"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message ink.net...
"What a terrible indictment

Geeze - look what crawled out of the woodwork!

Off the meds or did they finally let you out?

--
CBI, MD

Christopher B. Ish, MD offered ad hominem...

"Geeze - look what crawled out of the woodwork!...Off the meds or did they
finally let you out?"

MDs do not like people pointing out their mass child abuse and mass adult
abuse - both of which are sometimes fatal....

Mothers and babies are being abused en masse by MDs - so I repeat what
Christopher deleted...

"What a terrible indictment...guilty of failing those for whom we have
chosen to be advocates." [Finkel KC: The failure to report child abuse.
AJDC, 1986;140:329-330]

Pediatricians are not only failing to protect babies...

Pediatricians are ripping and slicing babies...and remaining silent as OBs
do the same and worse to babies...

Pediatrician Jeff P.Utz, MD wrote in message
...


Do you have evidence that people listened to you? Perhaps, you can show
the
articles from these organizations that you say changed your views were
they
cite you as one of the reasons they changed.


###### It's possible that the CMA ignored its own Scientific Board and
instantly created "an effective public health measure" out of "no medical
indications" routine infant circumcision because someone ELSE had just
exposed the phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology and called for an end
to the mass child abuse that is American medicine's most frequent surgical
behavior toward males.

See again: Chiro care of baby penises (also: Dr. Poland never sued Dr.
Gastaldo)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2430

BTW, I couldn't help notice how you deletd this text of mine:

"My my, someone has a swelled head.

Mr. Gastablo's rant and raves deleted."

without indicating that fact.That's intellectually dishonest.


###### Yes Jeff, I should have pointed out that your calling my arguments
"rant[s] and raves" without offering substantive criticism was
intellectually dishonest. Instead, I simply deleted your intellectual
dishonesty. Sorry.

BTW, the AAP now recommends that analegesia be used during circumcism:

http://www.medem.com/medlb/article_d...PIUC&sub_cat=1.

##### Using analgesia to accomplish child abuse is still child abuse.

"[Routine infant circumcision] constitutes child abuse...an acknowledged
hazard to health." [Michael Katz, MD: Letter. AJDC, 1980]

"What a terrible indictment...guilty of failing those for whom we have
chosen to be advocates." [Finkel KC: The failure to report child abuse.
AJDC, 1986;140:329-330]


I beleive that [AAP has] been recommending [analgesia] for years.


###### Ah, medical progress - AAP recommending injecting penises with
anesthetic instead of simply recommending stopping mass MD ripping and
slicing of infant penises.

###### THINK ABOUT IT

###### AS INFANTS SCREAM AND WRITHE AND BLEED...

"One-half to one-third of the skin on the...penile shaft is sliced
off." http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (paraphrasing Ronald Goldman,
PhD,
author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma)

"The average circumcision cuts off what would grow into
about 12 square inches of sexually sensitive skin."
http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (quoting Ronald Goldman, PhD, author of
Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma)


###### PARENTS: IF YOU MUST HAVE YOUR SON'S FORESKIN AMPUTATED...

###### I think it is good that AAP now recognizes that babies can feel pain
and recommends analgesia.

###### According to the medical literature, Mogen clamp and dorsal penile
nerve
block (DPNB) injections are best - with "ring block" being an anesthesia
alternative - but talk to whomever will rip and slice your son's penis.

###### Thanks for reading.

###### Sincerely,

###### Todd

###### Dr. Gastaldo )

###### PS If I could have MDs stop only ONE of their massive crimes against
babies, it would be the crime of closing birth canals up to 30%.

For simple PROOF that OBs are knowingly closing birth canals up to
30%...

For simple instructions on how women can allow their
birth canals to OPEN their birth canals the "extra" up to 30%...

See I ain't no Semmelweis, but...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2591

IT'S OBVIOUS OB CRIME...

OBs are slicing vaginas en masse (euphemism "routine episiotomy") -
surgically/FRAUDULENTLY inferring everything possible is being done to OPEN
birth canals - even as they CLOSE birth canals - up to 30%.

OBs are slicing abdomens en masse ("c-section") - surgically/fraudulently
inferring everything possible has been DONE to open birth canals - even as
they CLOSE birth canals - up to 30%.

Now - to be sure - allowing the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30% is
not going to prevent all caesareans and episiotomies - but it can't hurt.

Incidentally, when babies' shoulders get stuck, OBs KEEP the birth canal
closed - even as they say they are opening it maximally.

See ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2300

OBs don't charge for their mass vagina slicing - but it is known
to increase severe perineal tears by 50X - and perineal tearing is the most
common reason for hospitalization of women:

"The most common diagnosis for hospitalization among all women is trauma to
perineum due to childbirth."
http://www.ahcpr.gov/data/hcup/factbk3/factbk3.htm


See also: Criminal medical CAM at Hawai'i's John A Burns School of Medicine

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2256

TRANSLATION: Hospitalization of women BEFORE childbirth is the most common
reason for hospital admission AFTER childbirth!

It is sordidly hilarious to see Jeff P.Utz, MD demand EVIDENCE for this or
that as his specialty pediatrics IGNORES obvious mass obstetric crime
against babies and itself commits obvious mass child abuse - still behaving
as if babies can't feel pain.

Most bizarre.

The problem of course is that medical science isn't.

Thanks for reading.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo