Kids should work.

How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

"ChrisScaife" wrote in message
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How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

Mama cats swat kittens on the nose for misbehavior, along with a hiss.

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, ChrisScaife wrote:

How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

I saw the same argument used against abortion! Do you know of any animal
that put their youngs in diaper??? ;-)

Doan

"Doan" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, ChrisScaife wrote:

How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

I saw the same argument used against abortion! Do you know of any animal
that put their youngs in diaper??? ;-)

That is because animals are not able to do that,
but they are able to injure their offspring.
They choose not to.

As for abortion... I would rather not start on that one right now.

Chris

"Donna Metler" wrote in message
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"ChrisScaife" wrote in message
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How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

Mama cats swat kittens on the nose for misbehavior, along with a hiss.

Yes and dogs (or should I say bitches) will growl at a pup that gets a bit
too boisterous...
but it's a long way off from human children who go round covered in bruises
and may even suffer permanent damage from their parent's fit of rage.
Making the kid understand WHY is all it takes and thrashing them really
doesn't help.

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, ChrisScaife wrote:


"Doan" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, ChrisScaife wrote:

How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

I saw the same argument used against abortion! Do you know of any animal
that put their youngs in diaper??? ;-)

That is because animals are not able to do that,
but they are able to injure their offspring.
They choose not to.

Actually, it depends on what kind of animals we are talking about; some do
eat their youngs. You are right that most animals are very protective of
their youngs. It is ironic then to think that humans are difference and
as parents, we don't know how to take care of our youngs. If you've been
listen to the anti-spanking zealotS, we have been doing it wrong since
the beginning of time!

As for abortion... I would rather not start on that one right now.

Chris

It's your choice! :-)

Doan

Donna,

Animals cannot speak. Animals communicate through body language and
vocalizations. This is why mana cats swat their kittens on the nose. Mama
cat is raising her babies to survive in their world.

I can speak, and so can you. I didn't need to raise my children with
hitting. I taught my children to survive and prosper as humans. Mama cat
is teaching her children to survive as cats.

See the difference, Donna?

LaVonne



Donna Metler wrote:

"ChrisScaife" wrote in message
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How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

Mama cats swat kittens on the nose for misbehavior, along with a hiss.

Don't disagree with LaVonne, she's an ""expert""!
chuckle

The whole thread seems so "academic" as to be
out there in LaLa Land. Ego stroking and
people feeling very philosophical and all..

Look, There goes LaVonne, the Pied Piper of Dinkytown!

AdoptaDad wrote
Many animals use what amounts to some form of physical
discipline when rearing their offspring.
It's not uncommmon at all.

In addition, there are several species that actually
eat their young. Given my druthers, I'd rather be
beaten than eaten.

And since I'm the male of my species, I'm rather
thankful I'm not a black widow spider or preying mantis.

Humans are no more (or less) base than the other
species on this planet.

"LaVonne Carlson" wrote in message
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Donna,

Animals cannot speak. Animals communicate through body language and
vocalizations. This is why mana cats swat their kittens on the nose.
Mama
cat is raising her babies to survive in their world.

I can speak, and so can you. I didn't need to raise my children with
hitting. I taught my children to survive and prosper as humans. Mama cat
is teaching her children to survive as cats.

See the difference, Donna?

LaVonne


I'm not pro-spanking. However, the claim was that NO animals use physical
punishment-and it only takes one counterexample to disprove such a claim.

I'd also argue that most child development theorists who advocate spanking
do so only with quite young children, who aren't exactly capable of higher
level reasoned discourse, and usually only in situations where an immediate
adversive response is necessary. Which is exactly the mama cat's response.


Donna Metler wrote:

"ChrisScaife" wrote in message
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How would he a better person if I was beating him (the animal
society
way) instead of teaching him interaction according to modern
principles of human society.

I don't know of animals that beat their young.
Only degenerate humans could be that base.
;-)

Mama cats swat kittens on the nose for misbehavior, along with a hiss.

Doan: It's not the first time that I've seen
these ultraliberal types makes grunting noises
about how terrible human beings are.

I agree when it comes to needless slaughter of
dolphins or higher primates, but these types
generally apply these comments in stupid ways.

The neurotic ultraliberals actually think that
by chattering a whole bunch, and patting each
other on the back, their BS is "the truth"!

The truth is that this sort of debate is
more typical of a few petulent 17 year olds
who think they have it all figured out.

I would suggest to you, Doan, to let them
prattle on about their gibberish and let
them delude each other rather than lend them
credence by even debating with them on
such an incredibly stupid premise/whine.

Just LET THEM go walking out over the edge
of the cliff with their raging cultic views.