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Question for religious parents
"toto" wrote in message
... Most religious folks I know don't generally bring up religion with others who are not of their own faith. Most children who are religious don't tell other kids they are going to hell either. I have had, over the years, several strangers come to me and my children in the grocery store, or a restaurant, and just start talking about Jesus and if I went to church. This happened just a few weeks ago, actually, in Walmart. An elderly man came to say what cute kids I have and then started telling me he hopes I have them in church and he just went on and on about it. When I first meet people, one of the first questions is where I go to church. When I answer nowhere, Oh how shocked the people look and just can't get over that I don't BELIEVE. There have been several times strange children at the park, on finding out my kids don't go to church, have told them they are going to hell. You people who are saying it's not common- you are so lucky. My family couldn't even join a homeschool group in my area b/c they required a signed statement of faith. We drive an hour to get to our group (which is worth the drive, it's a wonderful group, but I do wish it were closer). Christian groups try to ban movies and tv series. (brokeback mountain was banned here but we went to another city to see it, and book of daniel was cancelled on NBC) It's something you just can not avoid here. Marie |
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Barbara wrote: SNIP I tend to stay away from the bible thumpers, because I'd rather not be told that I'm going to hell, or my kids need to be in church. SNIP And this would differ from religious people who would prefer that their children not play with non-religious people ... exactly how? Barbara Non-religious people aren't going to tell you how wrong you are for your beliefs and are not going to try to cram *their* beliefs down your throat. One is an aggressive stance (proselytization) the other is a passive stance. -L. |
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"-L." wrote in message
ups.com... Barbara wrote: SNIP I tend to stay away from the bible thumpers, because I'd rather not be told that I'm going to hell, or my kids need to be in church. SNIP And this would differ from religious people who would prefer that their children not play with non-religious people ... exactly how? Barbara Non-religious people aren't going to tell you how wrong you are for your beliefs and are not going to try to cram *their* beliefs down your throat. One is an aggressive stance (proselytization) the other is a passive stance. There are definitely atheists who spout their belief that you have to be intellectually inferior in order to believe in God. Not *all* atheists of course, just like not all Christians are "Bible thumpers." I have a friend who is a born-again, extremely conservative Christian. She bemoans the fact that conservative Christians on TV are so often portrayed as extremely judgmental, intolerant, and hypocritical. Bizby |
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-L. wrote:
Non-religious people aren't going to tell you how wrong you are for your beliefs and are not going to try to cram *their* beliefs down your throat. One is an aggressive stance (proselytization) the other is a passive stance. Um. I submit that if you have actually met any atheists like that, you're pretty sheltered, because I have. Michelle Flutist |
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To give a bit more information about my particular situation:
I have a father who is very mormon and who is very bullheaded about it. I have a grandfather-in-law who is very catholic and is very bullheaded about it. I have a father-in-law who is very protestant and is very bullheaded about it and has already warned us several times that we might be going to hell. We are very quiet and private about the way we look at these things. Even when invited into conversations about religion we tend to politely avoid it. I think we've been traumatized by the 3 people mentioned above. We have no interest in making anyone atheist and we have no interest in people forcing us to see thier side of religion. We are live and let live kind of people. The community we live in has tons of religious people who are very vocal about it. (I'm not going to say what religion because that will drag this into a debate about this or that religion and I'm trying to avoid that because it's not the point.) We were going to homeschool our daughter but we decided we wanted to expose her to the kind of community we live in because we really don't have any plans of ever moving. We love this area a lot and we are willing to take the good with the bad. It is true that there are atheists that are very bold and forceful about it, but from what I've seen that is few and far between. The key is that most atheists don't think that a person is going to be damned for eternity for practicing a religion. One other thing I've noticed, religious types tend band together when they find out someone they love is an atheist. My father and FIL never had any kind words to say about the other when it comes to religion. But soon as we showed signs of being non religious they had all kinds of nice concessions to make for the other person. I found that strange. |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:33:12 -0500, "Marie"
wrote: "toto" wrote in message .. . Most religious folks I know don't generally bring up religion with others who are not of their own faith. Most children who are religious don't tell other kids they are going to hell either. I have had, over the years, several strangers come to me and my children in the grocery store, or a restaurant, and just start talking about Jesus and if I went to church. This happened just a few weeks ago, actually, in Walmart. An elderly man came to say what cute kids I have and then started telling me he hopes I have them in church and he just went on and on about it. When I first meet people, one of the first questions is where I go to church. When I answer nowhere, Oh how shocked the people look and just can't get over that I don't BELIEVE. There have been several times strange children at the park, on finding out my kids don't go to church, have told them they are going to hell. You people who are saying it's not common- you are so lucky. My family couldn't even join a homeschool group in my area b/c they required a signed statement of faith. We drive an hour to get to our group (which is worth the drive, it's a wonderful group, but I do wish it were closer). Christian groups try to ban movies and tv series. (brokeback mountain was banned here but we went to another city to see it, and book of daniel was cancelled on NBC) It's something you just can not avoid here. Marie I only recently moved to the South and I hope that I never have that experience. It was certainly not common in Chicago despite the fact that there were plenty of Southern Baptists around. There were people who preached on the street corners, but they were pretty easy to avoid. I have actually seen less of those in New Orleans than I did in Chicago. I have never had anyone come up and start talking about Jesus to me in the grocery store or mall stores here (but I have only been here about a year). -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:33:56 GMT, toto wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:33:12 -0500, "Marie" wrote: "toto" wrote in message . .. Most religious folks I know don't generally bring up religion with others who are not of their own faith. Most children who are religious don't tell other kids they are going to hell either. I have had, over the years, several strangers come to me and my children in the grocery store, or a restaurant, and just start talking about Jesus and if I went to church. This happened just a few weeks ago, actually, in Walmart. An elderly man came to say what cute kids I have and then started telling me he hopes I have them in church and he just went on and on about it. When I first meet people, one of the first questions is where I go to church. When I answer nowhere, Oh how shocked the people look and just can't get over that I don't BELIEVE. There have been several times strange children at the park, on finding out my kids don't go to church, have told them they are going to hell. You people who are saying it's not common- you are so lucky. My family couldn't even join a homeschool group in my area b/c they required a signed statement of faith. We drive an hour to get to our group (which is worth the drive, it's a wonderful group, but I do wish it were closer). Christian groups try to ban movies and tv series. (brokeback mountain was banned here but we went to another city to see it, and book of daniel was cancelled on NBC) It's something you just can not avoid here. Marie I only recently moved to the South and I hope that I never have that experience. It was certainly not common in Chicago despite the fact that there were plenty of Southern Baptists around. There were people who preached on the street corners, but they were pretty easy to avoid. I have actually seen less of those in New Orleans than I did in Chicago. I have never had anyone come up and start talking about Jesus to me in the grocery store or mall stores here (but I have only been here about a year). I travel fairly frequently to the South ( Tennessee and NC, mostly ), and I don't think there's been a single trip in which I haven't had someone bring up religion. The last time I was in Nashville, I stopped to get a haircut before meeting with a client, and the *first* thing the woman asked was, "And have you found Jesus?" Unfortunately, the standard rejoiner of "Yes, he's been hiding behind the living room couch all this time! Can you believe that little devil?" didn't seem appropriate when dealing with someone holding sharp scissors. ;-) But even in areas with lots of Yankee immigrants, like the RTP area, it seems like small talk with the merest aquaintance gets around to religion very, very quickly. - Rich |
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toto wrote: I only recently moved to the South and I hope that I never have that experience. It was certainly not common in Chicago despite the fact that there were plenty of Southern Baptists around. There were people who preached on the street corners, but they were pretty easy to avoid. I have actually seen less of those in New Orleans than I did in Chicago. I have never had anyone come up and start talking about Jesus to me in the grocery store or mall stores here (but I have only been here about a year). I've had people do it even here in California -- generally, they waylay you at the store entrances with leaflets. (I've also had people selling Jesus door to door almost everywhere I've lived.) So I'm pretty amazed, wherever you've lived, that you've never encountered it! (Confession: back in my youth I was a fundamentalist who did that sort of prostelytizing at county fairs and such. I'm always polite -- but never engage these folks in ANY conversation beyond, "I'm not interested, thank you.") -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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