Dangerous Boys

Dangerous Boys

http://livingthegrandlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/dangerous-boys.html
http://tinyurl.com/yrbdac

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

You have read the stories in the news. (car fires & more)

Police are seeking information about a spate of vehicle fires north
and west of Lincoln Park early Sunday morning.

Eleven vehicles and a Dumpster were set ablaze between 4 and 6:10 a.m

I'll make a prediction. When they catch the culprits it will turn out
to be an informal gang of unsupervised boys looking for trouble. Even
if I'm wrong in this instance, we've seen this kind of thing before.
Windows broken or mailboxes randomly destroyed for "the fun of it."

There are no quick fixes. Building a rec center won't keep this from
happening.

At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice
from Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is
titled, The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises
politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section
on "How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I plan to read it and pass it on to my nephew and his three sons. I
also plan on passing on my treasured 1959 copy of the Boy Scout
Handbook. It teaches boys how to use a knife and build a fire. It even
has advertisements for rifles and shotguns.

If you are still with me you are probably wondering how these topics
fit together.

Boys, like puppies, are driven to explore their world. It is easy for
them to get into trouble. When I worked for the Division of Youth
Corrections, I dealt with a lot of boys in trouble. Some had started
fires, boys like fire. No one had ever taught then to build a fire
safely. Boys are fascinated with guns, but no one had taught them
firearm safety. The first time some of them had fired a gun was at
another person. Never having instruction or experience they had no
idea what would happen. Schools have zero tolerance for knifes and a
Swiss army knife will earn the boot. Yet, I've carried a knife since I
was eight. My grandfather gave me a pocket knife (and instruction). He
said, "A man should always have knife". I still think so.

I think our experiment in changing the nature of boys hasn't worked
too well. Boys need a little danger. They need to learn to build a
fire even if they sustain a little burn. They need to learn how to use
a knife and an ax, even if they cut themselves.

And they need to learn it in a context of responsibility. The Boy
Scout Handbook isn't just about dangerous things. It is also full of
honor and duty to God and Country, to self and others. Reading parts
of the book again I am surprised at how little schools and society
talk about such things now.

We have tried zero tolerance and wishful thinking. It may be
politically incorrect, but I think every boy should own a knife, know
how to shoot a gun, build a fire and learn the concepts of duty and
honor.

Posted by Gene Kinsey at 6:03 AM

Fred Goodwin, CMA wrote:

Dangerous Boys

http://livingthegrandlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/dangerous-boys.html
http://tinyurl.com/yrbdac

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

You have read the stories in the news. (car fires & more)

Police are seeking information about a spate of vehicle fires north
and west of Lincoln Park early Sunday morning.

Eleven vehicles and a Dumpster were set ablaze between 4 and 6:10 a.m

I'll make a prediction. When they catch the culprits it will turn out
to be an informal gang of unsupervised boys looking for trouble. Even
if I'm wrong in this instance, we've seen this kind of thing before.
Windows broken or mailboxes randomly destroyed for "the fun of it."

There are no quick fixes. Building a rec center won't keep this from
happening.

At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice
from Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is
titled, The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises
politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section
on "How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I plan to read it and pass it on to my nephew and his three sons. I
also plan on passing on my treasured 1959 copy of the Boy Scout
Handbook. It teaches boys how to use a knife and build a fire. It even
has advertisements for rifles and shotguns.

If you are still with me you are probably wondering how these topics
fit together.

Boys, like puppies, are driven to explore their world. It is easy for
them to get into trouble. When I worked for the Division of Youth
Corrections, I dealt with a lot of boys in trouble. Some had started
fires, boys like fire. No one had ever taught then to build a fire
safely. Boys are fascinated with guns, but no one had taught them
firearm safety. The first time some of them had fired a gun was at
another person. Never having instruction or experience they had no
idea what would happen. Schools have zero tolerance for knifes and a
Swiss army knife will earn the boot. Yet, I've carried a knife since I
was eight. My grandfather gave me a pocket knife (and instruction). He
said, "A man should always have knife". I still think so.

I think our experiment in changing the nature of boys hasn't worked
too well. Boys need a little danger. They need to learn to build a
fire even if they sustain a little burn. They need to learn how to use
a knife and an ax, even if they cut themselves.

And they need to learn it in a context of responsibility. The Boy
Scout Handbook isn't just about dangerous things. It is also full of
honor and duty to God and Country, to self and others. Reading parts
of the book again I am surprised at how little schools and society
talk about such things now.

We have tried zero tolerance and wishful thinking. It may be
politically incorrect, but I think every boy should own a knife, know
how to shoot a gun, build a fire and learn the concepts of duty and
honor.

Posted by Gene Kinsey at 6:03 AM
----------------------
Boys should be taught the proper use of, and be given, all tools.

But at the same time they must be taught that if they intentionally
commit malicious mischief or cause harm that they will be taken out
and have their balls and dick cut off while they are alive prparatory
to KILLING THEM! The only way to control such a human force of nature
as a boy, is to make him VERY afraid of MEN!!
Steve

"Fred Goodwin, CMA" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dangerous Boys
[snip]
At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice
from Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is
titled, The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises
politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section
on "How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I was given that book by a relative. It's very good, extremely
entertaining, but there's some stuff in there that will surprise you.

Like grammar lessons.

I can also recommend "The American Boys' Handy Book," as good reading for
Scout-age boys (and girls, sure).



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

On Jun 20, 1:24 pm, "Fred Goodwin, CMA" wrote:
Dangerous Boys

http://livingthegrandlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/dangerous-boys.htmlhttp://tinyurl.com/yrbdac

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

You have read the stories in the news. (car fires & more)

Police are seeking information about a spate of vehicle fires north and west of Lincoln Park early Sunday morning.

Eleven vehicles and a Dumpster were set ablaze between 4 and 6:10 a.m

I'll make a prediction. When they catch the culprits it will turn out to be an informal gang of unsupervised boys looking for trouble. Even if I'm wrong in this instance, we've seen this kind of thing before. Windows broken or mailboxes randomly destroyed for "the fun of it."

Sure. There are unsupervised boys in my old neighborhood and windows
were broken there as well.

There are no quick fixes. Building a rec center won't keep this from
happening.

I tend to agree. Children who don't have worthy parents will end up
poorly whether or not there's a rec. center, but a rec. center does
help in other ways.

At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice from Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is titled, The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section on "How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I don't see anything politically incorrect about that. So perhaps you
have some other evidence to show that the book is politically
incorrect?

I plan to read it and pass it on to my nephew and his three sons. I also plan on passing on my treasured 1959 copy of the Boy Scout Handbook. It teaches boys how to use a knife and build a fire. It even
has advertisements for rifles and shotguns.

Cool. My neice enjoys camping and building fires as well as fishing
and when she was small she also was provided a knive and some
instruction. My sons also did all that and so far, I see nothing in
that book that is politically incorrect. That a book is being
marketed to appeal to boys does not, on its own, make it anti girl.

(edit)

I think our experiment in changing the nature of boys hasn't worked too well.

No one is trying to change the nature of boys, but let's face it,
Fred...boys can't be boys by taking away the rights of others. That's
just the way the world has evolved.

Boys need a little danger.

The male of the species engages in more danger already, which is why
his life span is decreased. They take more illegal drugs; they drink
more alcohol; they choose riskier work and avocations, and they make
riskier sexual choices, often using prostitutes.

They need to learn to build a fire even if they sustain a little
burn.

My sisters and I built fires to burn the leaves in our back yard when
we were young. This is not just a task for boys. My sisters also
built fires for camping and doggie roasts. (hot dogs). We found
sticks and whittled them till the bark was off and there'd be a fine
point, and then we'd roast hot dogs and marshmellows.

They need to learn how to use a knife and an ax, even if they cut
themselves.

Girls too.

And they need to learn it in a context of responsibility.

Any time a fire is lit, there is responsibility. I taught my neice
and my own boys to fish, and they had to learn to clean all the fish
they caught.

The Boy Scout Handbook isn't just about dangerous things. It is also
full of honor and duty to God and Country, to self and others.

Patriotism is something all children should learn about, but not all
people take their moral convictions from Christianity, or from any
diety at all. Some people have oustanding moral convictions that are
unrelated to any diety at all. Perhaps, in BS they should teach about
the responsibilities of fatherhood; then perhaps, not a many men
would abandon their children.

"Hyerdahl" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 20, 1:24 pm, "Fred Goodwin, CMA" wrote:
Dangerous Boys

http://livingthegrandlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/dangerous-boys.htmlhttp://tinyurl.com/yrbdac

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

You have read the stories in the news. (car fires & more)

Police are seeking information about a spate of vehicle fires north and
west of Lincoln Park early Sunday morning.

Eleven vehicles and a Dumpster were set ablaze between 4 and 6:10 a.m

I'll make a prediction. When they catch the culprits it will turn out to
be an informal gang of unsupervised boys looking for trouble. Even if I'm
wrong in this instance, we've seen this kind of thing before. Windows
broken or mailboxes randomly destroyed for "the fun of it."

Sure. There are unsupervised boys in my old neighborhood and windows
were broken there as well.

There are no quick fixes. Building a rec center won't keep this from
happening.

I tend to agree. Children who don't have worthy parents will end up
poorly whether or not there's a rec. center, but a rec. center does
help in other ways.

At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice from
Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is titled,
The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises
politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section on
"How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I don't see anything politically incorrect about that. So perhaps you
have some other evidence to show that the book is politically
incorrect?

I plan to read it and pass it on to my nephew and his three sons. I also
plan on passing on my treasured 1959 copy of the Boy Scout Handbook. It
teaches boys how to use a knife and build a fire. It even
has advertisements for rifles and shotguns.

Cool. My neice enjoys camping and building fires as well as fishing
and when she was small she also was provided a knive and some
instruction.

A 1" pen knife to do her nails? lol


My sons also did all that and so far, I see nothing in
that book that is politically incorrect. That a book is being
marketed to appeal to boys does not, on its own, make it anti girl.

(edit)

I think our experiment in changing the nature of boys hasn't worked too
well.

No one is trying to change the nature of boys, but let's face it,
Fred...boys can't be boys by taking away the rights of others. That's
just the way the world has evolved.

Boys need a little danger.

The male of the species engages in more danger already, which is why
his life span is decreased. They take more illegal drugs; they drink
more alcohol; they choose riskier work and avocations, and they make
riskier sexual choices, often using prostitutes.

That's all bull****. Their lifespan is somewhat shorter due to HARD work and
stress. They take riskier jobs to earn more money to support females and
because a female couldn't do the job anyway. Females have a higher rate of
drinking,drugging and smoking and due to their metabolisms, brain chemistry
and self indulgent nature have a harder time quitting. They are also prone
to run to fat.Female prostitutes and ordinary good time party girls spread
VD and to be safe we should view all females as carriers.Why do you think we
have always had laws against prostitution and fornication directed towards
females?

They need to learn to build a fire even if they sustain a little
burn.

My sisters and I built fires to burn the leaves in our back yard when
we were young. This is not just a task for boys. My sisters also
built fires for camping and doggie roasts. (hot dogs). We found
sticks and whittled them till the bark was off and there'd be a fine
point, and then we'd roast hot dogs and marshmellows.

Too bad it wasn't a poison stick )

They need to learn how to use a knife and an ax, even if they cut
themselves.

Girls too.

Yeah girls will cut themselves. Bad coordination )

And they need to learn it in a context of responsibility.

Any time a fire is lit, there is responsibility. I taught my neice
and my own boys to fish, and they had to learn to clean all the fish
they caught.

The Boy Scout Handbook isn't just about dangerous things. It is also
full of honor and duty to God and Country, to self and others.

Patriotism is something all children should learn about, but not all
people take their moral convictions from Christianity, or from any
diety at all. Some people have oustanding moral convictions that are
unrelated to any diety at all. Perhaps, in BS they should teach about
the responsibilities of fatherhood; then perhaps, not a many men
would abandon their children.

Few do. Most are driven away by the females and courts. Perhaps in the
Girlscout book they should teach about loyalty, honestly and love, honour
and obey.

Avenger wrote:

The male of the species engages in more danger already, which is why
his life span is decreased. They take more illegal drugs; they drink
more alcohol; they choose riskier work and avocations, and they make
riskier sexual choices, often using prostitutes.

That's all bull****. Their lifespan is somewhat shorter due to HARD work and
stress. They take riskier jobs to earn more money to support females and
because a female couldn't do the job anyway. Females have a higher rate of
drinking,drugging and smoking and due to their metabolisms, brain chemistry
and self indulgent nature have a harder time quitting. They are also prone
to run to fat.Female prostitutes and ordinary good time party girls spread
VD and to be safe we should view all females as carriers.Why do you think we
have always had laws against prostitution and fornication directed towards
females?
----------------------
Because men made the laws and women were weaker physically and had
no vote, you stupid ignorant ****.
Steve

On 21 Jun, 11:17, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:
Avenger wrote:

The male of the species engages in more danger already, which is why
his life span is decreased. They take more illegal drugs; they drink
more alcohol; they choose riskier work and avocations, and they make
riskier sexual choices, often using prostitutes.

That's all bull****. Their lifespan is somewhat shorter due to HARD work and
stress. They take riskier jobs to earn more money to support females and
because a female couldn't do the job anyway. Females have a higher rate of
drinking,drugging and smoking and due to their metabolisms, brain chemistry
and self indulgent nature have a harder time quitting. They are also prone
to run to fat.Female prostitutes and ordinary good time party girls spread
VD and to be safe we should view all females as carriers.Why do you think we
have always had laws against prostitution and fornication directed towards
females?

----------------------
Because men made the laws and women were weaker physically and had
no vote,

Really? Then explain why it is that the strong need laws, why it is
overwhelmingly (stronger) men that prefer casual sex, not (weaker)
women, yet almost all legal systems restrict it and (in the context of
the long and global history of legal prohibitions on prostitution) how
long most men have had the vote - in the west and worldwide.

you stupid ignorant ****.

We are all stupid ignorant ****s, it is only a matter of degree, but
other people tend to react more constructively if you don't show off
your own prowess so blatantly.

--
Rob
There's no gender equality without paternal certainty and 50/50
physical child custody.

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:04:20 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Fred Goodwin, CMA wrote:

Dangerous Boys

http://livingthegrandlife.blogspot.com/2007/06/dangerous-boys.html
http://tinyurl.com/yrbdac

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

You have read the stories in the news. (car fires & more)

Police are seeking information about a spate of vehicle fires north
and west of Lincoln Park early Sunday morning.

Eleven vehicles and a Dumpster were set ablaze between 4 and 6:10 a.m

I'll make a prediction. When they catch the culprits it will turn out
to be an informal gang of unsupervised boys looking for trouble. Even
if I'm wrong in this instance, we've seen this kind of thing before.
Windows broken or mailboxes randomly destroyed for "the fun of it."

There are no quick fixes. Building a rec center won't keep this from
happening.

At the same time I was reading about the fires, I received a notice
from Amazon that they were shipping a book I had ordered. The book is
titled, The Dangerous Book for Boys.

The book has had a bit of play on different websites. It promises
politically incorrect humor and adventure. It even includes a section
on "How to hunt and cook a rabbit".

I plan to read it and pass it on to my nephew and his three sons. I
also plan on passing on my treasured 1959 copy of the Boy Scout
Handbook. It teaches boys how to use a knife and build a fire. It even
has advertisements for rifles and shotguns.

If you are still with me you are probably wondering how these topics
fit together.

Boys, like puppies, are driven to explore their world. It is easy for
them to get into trouble. When I worked for the Division of Youth
Corrections, I dealt with a lot of boys in trouble. Some had started
fires, boys like fire. No one had ever taught then to build a fire
safely. Boys are fascinated with guns, but no one had taught them
firearm safety. The first time some of them had fired a gun was at
another person. Never having instruction or experience they had no
idea what would happen. Schools have zero tolerance for knifes and a
Swiss army knife will earn the boot. Yet, I've carried a knife since I
was eight. My grandfather gave me a pocket knife (and instruction). He
said, "A man should always have knife". I still think so.

I think our experiment in changing the nature of boys hasn't worked
too well. Boys need a little danger. They need to learn to build a
fire even if they sustain a little burn. They need to learn how to use
a knife and an ax, even if they cut themselves.

And they need to learn it in a context of responsibility. The Boy
Scout Handbook isn't just about dangerous things. It is also full of
honor and duty to God and Country, to self and others. Reading parts
of the book again I am surprised at how little schools and society
talk about such things now.

We have tried zero tolerance and wishful thinking. It may be
politically incorrect, but I think every boy should own a knife, know
how to shoot a gun, build a fire and learn the concepts of duty and
honor.

Posted by Gene Kinsey at 6:03 AM
----------------------
Boys should be taught the proper use of, and be given, all tools.

But at the same time they must be taught that if they intentionally
commit malicious mischief or cause harm that they will be taken out
and have their balls and dick cut off while they are alive prparatory
to KILLING THEM! The only way to control such a human force of nature
as a boy, is to make him VERY afraid of MEN!!
Steve

Aren't all parents scared to death of trusting the Boy Scouts with
their children unless they have an anal chastity belt?

Meanwhile, girls, fags, and god deniers should be secluded from any
knowledge of how to make fire, tie a knot, or pitch a tent.

That'll show those *******s to have an identity!!!!

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:32:11 -0700, Rob wrote:

On 21 Jun, 11:17, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:
Avenger wrote:

The male of the species engages in more danger already, which is why
his life span is decreased. They take more illegal drugs; they drink
more alcohol; they choose riskier work and avocations, and they make
riskier sexual choices, often using prostitutes.

That's all bull****. Their lifespan is somewhat shorter due to HARD work and
stress. They take riskier jobs to earn more money to support females and
because a female couldn't do the job anyway. Females have a higher rate of
drinking,drugging and smoking and due to their metabolisms, brain chemistry
and self indulgent nature have a harder time quitting. They are also prone
to run to fat.Female prostitutes and ordinary good time party girls spread
VD and to be safe we should view all females as carriers.Why do you think we
have always had laws against prostitution and fornication directed towards
females?

----------------------
Because men made the laws and women were weaker physically and had
no vote,

Really? Then explain why it is that the strong need laws, why it is
overwhelmingly (stronger) men that prefer casual sex, not (weaker)
women, yet almost all legal systems restrict it and (in the context of
the long and global history of legal prohibitions on prostitution) how
long most men have had the vote - in the west and worldwide.

you stupid ignorant ****.

We are all stupid ignorant ****s, it is only a matter of degree, but
other people tend to react more constructively if you don't show off
your own prowess so blatantly.

Explain why it is that older educated white men have for hundreds of
years now, continually passed laws that have given away their power
until now any one who worships a voodoo god is welcomed into Scouting?

Rob wrote:

On 21 Jun, 11:17, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:

Why do you think we
have always had laws against prostitution and fornication directed towards
females?
----------------------
Because men made the laws and women were weaker physically and had
no vote,

Really? Then explain why it is that the strong need laws,
---------------
Why, to tell the weak how they want them to behave, of course.

Communicating with your slaves is more efficient than beating
them till they accidentally figure out what you want!


why it is
overwhelmingly (stronger) men that prefer casual sex, not (weaker)
women,
-----------------
Because the weak have no power and no money and have to do all the work.
Casual sex, as it is available right now, is one way women wind up even
more enslaved by the society ruled by the strong.

The ONLY way to have good casual sex with variety is to enforce use of
birth control and strict controls of disease, just as we do for other
similarly deadly public health problems, and provide public venues for
open public sex with these partners.


yet almost all legal systems restrict it and (in the context of
the long and global history of legal prohibitions on prostitution) how
long most men have had the vote - in the west and worldwide.
--------------------------
Funnily enough it is NOT illegal for men in these systems, it is
for WOMEN ALONE! This is because men have decided that they want
the access to sexual variety, but if they decide not to pay them
they want the law to back them up! In other words, this is the way
men make sex "free" to them alone!

Only in more advanced partially maternally centered society is
prostitution EITHER de-pimped and legalized OR equally prosecuted
between the sexes.

In a truly advanced society no such would be needed, because key
to such a society is open public sexuality and a sense of obligation
to make sure everyone has a pleasing sex life.


you stupid ignorant ****.

We are all stupid ignorant ****s, it is only a matter of degree, but
other people tend to react more constructively if you don't show off
your own prowess so blatantly.
------------------------
WE are NOT all stupid ignorant ****s, but YOU are.


Rob
There's no gender equality without paternal certainty and 50/50
physical child custody.
--------------------------------
There is no gender equality without government support of persons with
children, paid by all citizens in their taxes, and custody is limited
to WHATEVER parents the CHILD wants!

This is proper because EVERYBODY benefits from children, by them doing
the harder work when you are no longer able, and to care for us in our
old age, and to advance the society by their new infusion of love and
creativity after ours is long exhausted and tired.

Remember: Children are the way that Love, Goodness, and Creativity come
into the Universe, and Death is the way that Hatred, Evil, and Ignorance
go out of it.
Steve