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Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield



 
 
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Old April 11th 10, 10:57 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...interview.aspx


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Old April 11th 10, 01:04 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:57:39 +0100, "john" wrote:

http://articles.mercola.c


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Old April 11th 10, 06:02 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC… I
have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and they
said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do not
need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department of
Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said, this is
a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got
in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating,
you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent it.
Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating a
population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the rest of
their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made complication.....There
was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were so zealous. So urgently
needed to get this vaccine into the market that they ignored the potential
problems and now we have a big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous
vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew
Wakefield


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Old April 11th 10, 07:09 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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john wrote:
Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC… I
have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and they
said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do not
need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department of
Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said, this is
a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got
in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating,
you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent it.
Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating a
population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the rest of
their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made complication.....There
was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were so zealous. So urgently
needed to get this vaccine into the market that they ignored the potential
problems and now we have a big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous
vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew
Wakefield


Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola
have nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.

Jeff
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Old April 11th 10, 07:16 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola have
nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.

Jeff


We all know who the real quacks are http://whale.to/p/quacks.html


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Old April 14th 10, 03:50 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the
CDC… I have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a
study and they said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in
children; we do not need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in
the UK. The Department of Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the
regulators in the UK said, this is a trivial disease in children. We
do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got in. ....So you have
effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating, you have
turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real mess.
They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent it.
Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating a
population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the
rest of their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made
complication.....There was incompetence. They were incompetent. They
were so zealous. So urgently needed to get this vaccine into the
market that they ignored the potential problems and now we have a big,
big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous vaccine. It does not work.
[2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew Wakefield


Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola
have nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.


They are absolutely right. Mumps vaccine brought outbreaks
among adults - on college campuses, for the first time in human
history. The patients were vaccinated, even twice.

Mumps is more dangerous for adults. Only post-puberty males can
develop mumps orchitis.

So the slogan is: vaccinate your boy against mumps,
give orchitis a chance.

The same story is unfolding now with chickenpox. First there were
outbreaks in high school, now when chickenpox vax generation reached
college we see it on campuses.
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Old April 14th 10, 04:01 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Mike wrote:
dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the
CDC… I have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a
study and they said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in
children; we do not need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in
the UK. The Department of Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the
regulators in the UK said, this is a trivial disease in children. We
do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got in. ....So you have
effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating, you have
turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent
it. Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating
a population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the
rest of their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made
complication.....There was incompetence. They were incompetent. They
were so zealous. So urgently needed to get this vaccine into the
market that they ignored the potential problems and now we have a
big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous vaccine. It does not
work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew Wakefield


Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola
have nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.


They are absolutely right. Mumps vaccine brought outbreaks
among adults - on college campuses, for the first time in human
history. The patients were vaccinated, even twice.

Mumps is more dangerous for adults. Only post-puberty males can
develop mumps orchitis.

So the slogan is: vaccinate your boy against mumps,
give orchitis a chance.


Almost all the time, the kids aren't fully immunized.

The same story is unfolding now with chickenpox. First there were
outbreaks in high school, now when chickenpox vax generation reached
college we see it on campuses.


Really? How many campuses? Which ones?

Not getting immunized against mumps, measles and rubella is really stupid.

The best protection is getting immunized.

Do you think you don't get mumps if you're not immunized?
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Old April 15th 10, 04:02 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Mike[_8_]
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dr_jeff wrote:
Mike wrote:
dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the
CDC… I have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a
study and they said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in
children; we do not need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in
the UK. The Department of Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the
regulators in the UK said, this is a trivial disease in children. We
do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got in. ....So you have
effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating, you have
turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't
prevent it. Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are
creating a population that is dependent upon reboosting with
vaccines for the rest of their lives to avoid this complication, a
man-made complication.....There was incompetence. They were
incompetent. They were so zealous. So urgently needed to get this
vaccine into the market that they ignored the potential problems and
now we have a big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous
vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr.
Andrew Wakefield

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola
have nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.


They are absolutely right. Mumps vaccine brought outbreaks
among adults - on college campuses, for the first time in human
history. The patients were vaccinated, even twice.

Mumps is more dangerous for adults. Only post-puberty males can
develop mumps orchitis.

So the slogan is: vaccinate your boy against mumps,
give orchitis a chance.


Almost all the time, the kids aren't fully immunized.


This is bull****.

"Of 1,115 patients with known vaccination status, 88% had received at
least one dose of mumps-containing vaccine before the outbreak, and 75%
had received two doses."

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Infectio...Vaccines/18442

Now please give your statistics and proof that "almost all the time, the
kids aren't fully immunized "


The same story is unfolding now with chickenpox. First there were
outbreaks in high school, now when chickenpox vax generation reached
college we see it on campuses.


Really? How many campuses? Which ones?


I do not know how many, that requires a special investigation,
preferably with sources at CDC.
As for which ones, you are obviously too lazy or too ignorant
to make a simple web search. Here is a couple of links for a lazy bum
like you:

http://www.newuniversity.org/2008/05...res_campus154/
http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzon...ported-at-slu/
http://www.dailycampus.com/2.7440/no...reak-1.1052461

There are many more in high schools, because the vaccine has been
licensed in 1995. There will be many more on campuses next year.

Not getting immunized against mumps, measles and rubella is really stupid.

The best protection is getting immunized.

Do you think you don't get mumps if you're not immunized?


"Vaccinated" is not "immunized", sorry. The best protection
from mumps is getting mumps in the early childhood, and if
no luck then getting a vaccine in time for school. (A mumps
party might be another option.)
As for mumps vaccination, it creates an opening for orchitis.
Other complications are more likely in adulthood too.
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Old April 11th 10, 09:34 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"john" wrote in message
...

Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC.
I have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and
they said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do
not need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department
of Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said,
this is a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But
it got in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by
vaccinating, you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they
are in a real mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR
doesn't prevent it. Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You
are creating a population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines
for the rest of their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made
complication.....There was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were
so zealous. So urgently needed to get this vaccine into the market that
they ignored the potential problems and now we have a big, big problem.
Mumps vaccine is a dangerous vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr.
Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew Wakefield


Mercola? Ah. The guy who champions "cures" that are not based on any kind of
scientific research. The guy that makes a fortune out of the promotion and
marketing of various unproven products. The guy who, according to David
Gumpert, "is selling health-care products and services, and is calling upon
an unfortunate tradition made famous by the old-time snake oil salesmen of
the 1800s" and who uses "every trick of traditional and Internet direct
marketing to grow his business." As for Dr Andrew Wakefield... The former
surgeon and researcher best known for his discredited work regarding the MMR
vaccine. In fact, he even stated that "We did not prove an association
between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described."
Further studies completely failed to either confirm or reproduce his
findings. And this is before you even start to consider the conflicts of
interest. Wakefield has no medical license in the USA, and is unlicensed in
the UK.

So I'm sure you'll forgive me if I'm somewhat sceptical about the
purpose/reason for your post. Check out
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPr...mu/autism.html for further,
decent information.


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Old April 11th 10, 07:17 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Coming down to the issue of giving it (Hepatitis B vax) on day one of life,
there are several issues that surround that. The first is when we did this
primate study giving that hepatitis B vaccine on day one. We looked for the
safety studies of that policy. What had been done to establish the safety of
giving it on day one? Not just giving it on day one but giving it on day one
to every infant whether they were born at 24 weeks or 30 weeks or 36 weeks
or 40 weeks, whatever their gestational…their birth weight was, whether they
were 10 lbs or 3 lbs or 2 lbs, they were getting the same shot at day one as
a matter of policy. Safety studies… We couldn't find them. And that was
really shocking, really shocking. How could this be? If you're going to make
a case for it, if you're going to do it, your'e going to make it a matter of
policy for every kid in the country then you'e got to be absolutely certain
that you got the safety set that is right because if not, you may produce
insidious problems, minor degrees of damage which you don't pick up straight
away but are catastrophic


 




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