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Kids playing in the streets
I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our
subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. regards, Mandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org for abuse and hashcash info. .. |
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"Mandy Anderson" wrote in message ... I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. A speed of 0.001 mph is enough to kill a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? So, children shouldn't be allowed in the streets at all? What if they want to go visit their neighbors? Perhaps they should have their mommy drive them two doors down? I don't know if you noticed, but adults were kids once too. There is no reason why kids whouldn't play on the streets, as long as they get to the side of the road when cars come. I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. No one would. However, speed bumps do make it safer for kids. So I am in favor. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. No problem here. On quiet residential streets, I see know reason why kids should not play games on the street that they cannot play in their yard, like street hockey. And I see no problem with kids taking a game of tag or whatever to the street so they can go from one yard to another, as long as they stop when cars come. Jeff regards, Mandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org for abuse and hashcash info. . |
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"Mandy Anderson" wrote in message ... I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. You cannot ride a bicycle in the yard. My son is planning on riding his bicycle with his Bubba (grandpa) in the street today. And I know that Bubba will have his hawk eyes on to protect him from inattentive or speeding drivers. It depends on the street and the neighborhood IMO. regards, Mandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org for abuse and hashcash info. . |
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"Jeff" wrote in message .net... "Mandy Anderson" wrote in message ... I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. No one would. However, speed bumps do make it safer for kids. So I am in favor. The advantage of speed bumps is they tend to deter cut through traffic, so not only will the traffic be slower, but there will be less of it. This means less cars for the children to vacate the street for. Downside of speed bumps is the noise cars make going over them. Neighbors of speed bumps often are not happy with the increased noise levels, the bump of cars carries late at night and might wake folks used to sleeping in very quiet neighborhoods. Neighbors need to get together with the traffic engineer to come up with solutions that make everyone happy. There are other traffic calming measures that can slow and deter traffic without adding to the noise level if that is the concern. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. No problem here. On quiet residential streets, I see know reason why kids should not play games on the street that they cannot play in their yard, like street hockey. And I see no problem with kids taking a game of tag or whatever to the street so they can go from one yard to another, as long as they stop when cars come. There are many activities such as biking, scootering, skating that work well on quiet streets. Encouraging unstructured activities such as these that are also good exercise will increase the children's life span in the long run. These are skills they can take into adulthood, and lead to healthy lives. |
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Mandy Anderson wrote:
.... would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. While staying with my neice in the pediatric ICU, a friends 5 year old was brought in and put in the room next to ours. He'd been hit by a car, and looked really bad. He had been playing in his yard, when a teenager, learning to drive, lost control and backed across the street into the yard, hitting and dragging him about 10 feet. My friend was sitting on the front porch watching her kids play, but there was nothing she could do to stop it. My point is, cars often go where they "can't". Into yards, the wrong way on highways, through windows and into buildings. There is no truely, completely "safe" place for kids to play. Let the kids be kids. Let them ride their bikes and get skinned knees. Play baseball with tennis balls and see how many blocks they have to go to find the ball. Run races, climb, wrestle, and play likes kids. If they get bruised or scraped up, stand them up, brush them off, apply bandages and love as required, and send them back for more fun. But do what's sane to keep the risks at a minimum. As long as the speed bumps arent too high, or too frequent, dont worry about the fact that it'll take you all of 2 seconds longer to get home. It's 2 seconds that could save someones life. --Shaun Uncle to Angel Amber, forever 17 |
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In article , Jeff says...
"Mandy Anderson" wrote in message . .. I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. A speed of 0.001 mph is enough to kill a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? So, children shouldn't be allowed in the streets at all? What if they want to go visit their neighbors? Perhaps they should have their mommy drive them two doors down? I guess the bikes, skateboards, and scooters should be relegated to up and down the driveway, up and down, up and down, up and down..... ?? I don't know if you noticed, but adults were kids once too. There is no reason why kids whouldn't play on the streets, as long as they get to the side of the road when cars come. I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. No one would. However, speed bumps do make it safer for kids. So I am in favor. Right. What, aside from irritating the impatient, is the disadvantage to a decently designed speedbump? We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. No problem here. On quiet residential streets, I see know reason why kids should not play games on the street that they cannot play in their yard, like street hockey. And I see no problem with kids taking a game of tag or whatever to the street so they can go from one yard to another, as long as they stop when cars come. Street hockey, stickball, there are any number of kids' games which necessarily happen in a street. And were developed on some of the busiest urban streets. Banty |
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I haven't followed this thread since it's inception, but
will offer that playing in the streets, as with anything, is fine in moderation and with caution. Most kids will use their bikes, skateboards, inline skates, etc along the roadways, but we do have the occasional group of ignorami who use the yellow center line as their own personal brick road. As for the younger set, I have seen parents who allow children to set up soccer nets and portable basketball hoops *in* the road, necessitating a major production of removal to the side of the road each time a car passes, which I think is ludicrous. Using the street as an extension of a play area, or in some cases as the only play area, can work as long as their is sensitivity on both sides. Personally, my residential street is like the Autobahn, and therefore I never allowed my kids to play in the street. I also have large front and back yards, as well as an ample driveway, so it never was a big issue.... -- Ruth |
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Mandy Anderson wrote: I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. regards, Mandy It depends, I think, on the street. If you live in a busy urban kind of setting, playing on the streets is very risky. But the point of quiet residential streets is that they are quiet and residential, and I think it's a reasonable expectation that kids will play there. I'd much rather have kids playing on my street than people taking short cuts through at 40 mph. Which is what's happening where I live. I think we'll be looking for a stop sign, rather than a speed bump. Rupa |
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Mandy Anderson wrote:
I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. When the sun is low on the horizon at evening rush hour, it often blinds cars, reducing their visibility. Why is it that some parents feel it is fine to impose inconveniences on the whole of society to make up for their laziness in controlling their children? I teach my children to stay in the yard, and would never trust thier lives to some speed limit sign or speed bump. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. regards, Mandy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org for abuse and hashcash info. . So we're all on the same page - How do you define "playing in the street"? 1) Using a bike, skateboard or other means of locomotion, or 2) Playing football, baseball, hockey, etc. Also, is this a though street or cul-de-sac? /dan |
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Banty wrote: In article , Jeff says... "Mandy Anderson" wrote in message . .. I'm furious with my neighbors who seem to think the streets in our subdivision are for playing. Several women who have nothing better to do petitioned the county to put speed bumps in to slow cars down, yet the speed limit of 25 mph is still fast enough to kill or injure a child. We teach them that the road is for cars and the yard where cars can't go is for playing. On quiet residential streets, I see know reason why kids should not play games on the street that they cannot play in their yard, like street hockey. And I see no problem with kids taking a game of tag or whatever to the street so they can go from one yard to another, as long as they stop when cars come. Street hockey, stickball, there are any number of kids' games which necessarily happen in a street. And were developed on some of the busiest urban streets. Banty Semi-hijacking the thread: I'm wrestling with this issue (minus the speed-bump issue) in my cul-de-sac lately. It's pretty typical for kids to play in the street (four-square type of ball games, skateboard tricks, once a huge frisbee game with almost every kid on the block, etc.) So far, I've told ds (age 3.75) that he's not allowed to play in the street - that's for big kids. But, I think soon I'll need to start letting him do it. He knows to watch for cars, and he's as tall as many 5 year-olds (as far as visibility is concerned). It's a pretty quiet street, since it's a cul-de-sac in a residential subdivision, and people expect to see kids playing. So, at what age do you let a kid join in these games in the street? Or even retrieve an errant ball that goes across the street? (I prefer ball games in the front yard, since errant balls in the back yard go into the marsh...) Irene |
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