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Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield



 
 
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Old April 11th 10, 10:57 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...interview.aspx


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Old April 11th 10, 01:04 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default Why Medical Authorities Went to Such Extremes to Silence Dr. Andrew Wakefield

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:57:39 +0100, "john" wrote:

http://articles.mercola.c


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go hundreds of dead.

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Old April 11th 10, 06:02 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC… I
have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and they
said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do not
need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department of
Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said, this is
a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got
in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating,
you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent it.
Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating a
population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the rest of
their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made complication.....There
was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were so zealous. So urgently
needed to get this vaccine into the market that they ignored the potential
problems and now we have a big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous
vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew
Wakefield


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Old April 11th 10, 07:09 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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john wrote:
Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC… I
have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and they
said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do not
need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department of
Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said, this is
a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But it got
in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by vaccinating,
you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they are in a real
mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR doesn't prevent it.
Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You are creating a
population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines for the rest of
their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made complication.....There
was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were so zealous. So urgently
needed to get this vaccine into the market that they ignored the potential
problems and now we have a big, big problem. Mumps vaccine is a dangerous
vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew
Wakefield


Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola
have nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.

Jeff
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Old April 11th 10, 07:16 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield? Two quacks.

You have the wrong newsgroup. THis is sci.med. Wakefield and Mercola have
nothing to do with either science or medicine. Both are quacks.

Jeff


We all know who the real quacks are http://whale.to/p/quacks.html


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Old April 11th 10, 07:17 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Coming down to the issue of giving it (Hepatitis B vax) on day one of life,
there are several issues that surround that. The first is when we did this
primate study giving that hepatitis B vaccine on day one. We looked for the
safety studies of that policy. What had been done to establish the safety of
giving it on day one? Not just giving it on day one but giving it on day one
to every infant whether they were born at 24 weeks or 30 weeks or 36 weeks
or 40 weeks, whatever their gestational…their birth weight was, whether they
were 10 lbs or 3 lbs or 2 lbs, they were getting the same shot at day one as
a matter of policy. Safety studies… We couldn't find them. And that was
really shocking, really shocking. How could this be? If you're going to make
a case for it, if you're going to do it, your'e going to make it a matter of
policy for every kid in the country then you'e got to be absolutely certain
that you got the safety set that is right because if not, you may produce
insidious problems, minor degrees of damage which you don't pick up straight
away but are catastrophic


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Old April 11th 10, 07:21 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
dr_jeff
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john wrote:
Coming down to the issue of giving it (Hepatitis B vax) on day one of life,
there are several issues that surround that. The first is when we did this
primate study giving that hepatitis B vaccine on day one. We looked for the
safety studies of that policy. What had been done to establish the safety of
giving it on day one? Not just giving it on day one but giving it on day one
to every infant whether they were born at 24 weeks or 30 weeks or 36 weeks
or 40 weeks, whatever their gestational…their birth weight was, whether they
were 10 lbs or 3 lbs or 2 lbs, they were getting the same shot at day one as
a matter of policy. Safety studies… We couldn't find them. And that was
really shocking, really shocking. How could this be? If you're going to make
a case for it, if you're going to do it, your'e going to make it a matter of
policy for every kid in the country then you'e got to be absolutely certain
that you got the safety set that is right because if not, you may produce
insidious problems, minor degrees of damage which you don't pick up straight
away but are catastrophic


I didn't know you did studies. Who funded you? Where is it published?


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Old April 11th 10, 09:23 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"john" wrote in message
...
Coming down to the issue of giving it (Hepatitis B vax) on day one of
life, there are several issues that surround that. The first is when we
did this primate study giving that hepatitis B vaccine on day one. We
looked for the safety studies of that policy. What had been done to
establish the safety of giving it on day one? Not just giving it on day
one but giving it on day one to every infant whether they were born at 24
weeks or 30 weeks or 36 weeks or 40 weeks, whatever their
gestational.their birth weight was, whether they were 10 lbs or 3 lbs or 2
lbs, they were getting the same shot at day one as a matter of policy.
Safety studies. We couldn't find them. And that was really shocking,
really shocking. How could this be? If you're going to make a case for it,
if you're going to do it, your'e going to make it a matter of policy for
every kid in the country then you'e got to be absolutely certain that you
got the safety set that is right because if not, you may produce insidious
problems, minor degrees of damage which you don't pick up straight away
but are catastrophic


Sorry... who are you? Where and why did you look for such studies? And what
is the basis for any concerns you may have?

I would refer you to the following website for some useful (and genuine)
information, as well as further links:
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPr...mu/immu10.html


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Old April 11th 10, 09:34 PM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"john" wrote in message
...

Mumps in this country, in the U.S. the CDC did a study. When Maurice
Hillerman went from Merck, the head of vaccines at Merck went to the CDC.
I have a mumps vaccine; I would like you to use it. They did a study and
they said there is no need. Mumps is a trivial disease in children; we do
not need this vaccine. Exactly the same happened in the UK. The Department
of Health, the Medicines Control Agency, the regulators in the UK said,
this is a trivial disease in children. We do not need a mumps vaccine. But
it got in. ....So you have effectively taken a trivial disease and by
vaccinating, you have turned it into a more dangerous disease. Now, they
are in a real mess. They are in a real mess because one dose of MMR
doesn't prevent it. Two doses of MMR don't prevent it; three doses. You
are creating a population that is dependent upon reboosting with vaccines
for the rest of their lives to avoid this complication, a man-made
complication.....There was incompetence. They were incompetent. They were
so zealous. So urgently needed to get this vaccine into the market that
they ignored the potential problems and now we have a big, big problem.
Mumps vaccine is a dangerous vaccine. It does not work. [2010 April] Dr.
Mercola Interviews Dr. Andrew Wakefield


Mercola? Ah. The guy who champions "cures" that are not based on any kind of
scientific research. The guy that makes a fortune out of the promotion and
marketing of various unproven products. The guy who, according to David
Gumpert, "is selling health-care products and services, and is calling upon
an unfortunate tradition made famous by the old-time snake oil salesmen of
the 1800s" and who uses "every trick of traditional and Internet direct
marketing to grow his business." As for Dr Andrew Wakefield... The former
surgeon and researcher best known for his discredited work regarding the MMR
vaccine. In fact, he even stated that "We did not prove an association
between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described."
Further studies completely failed to either confirm or reproduce his
findings. And this is before you even start to consider the conflicts of
interest. Wakefield has no medical license in the USA, and is unlicensed in
the UK.

So I'm sure you'll forgive me if I'm somewhat sceptical about the
purpose/reason for your post. Check out
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPr...mu/autism.html for further,
decent information.


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Old April 12th 10, 08:44 AM posted to alt.support.autism,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
john[_5_]
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"Stephen Wilson"

I would refer you to the following website for some useful (and genuine)
information, as well as further links:
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPr...mu/immu10.html



RAOFL! That AMA front, yawn


 




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