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"teaching your baby to read"
"H Schinske" wrote in message ... Carolyn ) wrote: The idea of phonics is to sound out and understand a word so you can memorize it and not sound it out again!! I wish he would get over 'some' plus a few other hard to sound out words, and just memorize them so we don't have to take so much time on each when we get to them. Oh, I remember that phase. Peter was actually sounding out words like "it" for what seemed like just ages. I don't think it was really very long at all though (possibly a month or two), and a year later his sight words now include things like "synergy." I am not kidding. This is what buying up the natural cereals aisle at Trader Joe's will do for you. There is a cereal called Eight Grain Synergy. My husband and I were inventing variations on it this morning, Eight Grain Coalition, Eight Grain Committee, etc. Eh. Just wait until your child brings home spelling words like Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian, and floccinaucinihilipilification because the teacher gave them "dictionary" option of picking their own words and they got into a competition with the other kids to find the longest ones.... I can't even pronounce some of the words this child can spell! Jenrose |
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"teaching your baby to read"
"Shena Delian O'Brien" wrote in message news:jlYIb.187454$8y1.591655@attbi_s52... Sue wrote: Oh you would be surprised at what lengths people go to, to have a smarter, brighter child. It's all the rage now. Having an average child is not enough anymore. It's nothing about smarter or brighter. Children are already smart and bright. It's about giving them opportunities to communicate and understand the adult world sooner, because it is the frustration of every child to be hopelessly bored and misunderstood because of lack of communication skills. I'd rather have my child occupied with and riveted to their latest book than screaming in their playpen, bored to tears, because I have to do the dishes. I never owned a playpen. I put my kid in a sling when I had to do dishes, or I let someone else do them, or we used paper plates. g I can't imagine requiring a child younger than 2 to "occupy" herself for any tremendous length of time, period. If you think you're going to teach your baby to read and hand her a book so you can get some work done, it's not going to happen at any age where a playpen would be appropriate. I also remember being very young (4-5) and throwing fits because people wouldn't read more than 1-2 books to me at a time and I wanted to devour them all. My family thinks the old story of me threatening to beat up my big sister if she didn't read me another book is hilarious, and tells how I huffed myself up to her reply of "No" with, "Then I'll just learn how to read myself!" Unfortunately that didn't happen until I got to school at age 6. I find it hopelessly tragic and am upset that they didn't attempt to teach me anything besides my own name and what a stop sign was. 4 years olds are annoying as hell when it comes to reading books to them over and over again. That's why my parents gave me books on tape and why my sister benefited from having both my parents, me and her godparents to read to her, while my daughter has had me, my parents, my sister, plus a zillion other people to read to her. So no one person had to read over and over and over again. Why on earth is it tragic that you didn't learn to read until you were 6? If you were actually neglected, yes, I can understand it, but you're grown up now, and if your only gripe is that people wouldn't read to you *more* than 2 books at a time, well, good god! Grow up already! Sorry if that's a bit brutal, but it's time to let that go. I've been around a number of really bright 4-year olds. Heck, I've *been* a really bright 4-year old. I was upset at my parents for years that they didn't do this or that to progress my knowledge. But you know what? After a while you figure, "They were just doing the best they could with what they had at hand, and now, as a parent, I understand why." Some things you can do better--you may have more patience than some of us do for "Read it again, Mommy!" But you can err, easily, in a more harmful direction forcefeeding knowledge than a bit of benign neglect where you're only read to 1-2 books at a shot (which is far more than many kids get) and don't learn to read until you're 6. I had a specific beef that my parents didn't get me piano lessons when I was 6--I had to wait until I was 10, and I always felt like those years were "wasted". So I got my daughter violin lessons when she was 6 and begged for them, and now at age 10, she's excellent on the violin, but I know that when I finally got my lessons I progressed much more quickly than she did at age 6! It's not wasted for either of us--she has had the precious experience for a gifted child of having to really work at something to learn it well, and I had the experience of learning something incredibly quickly (I shot through about 6 "levels" in a year or so on the piano, roughly equivalent to my daughter's first 3 years of violin..but by age 11 she'll be ahead of where I was at age 11, but not by much--though the violin is a much more challenging instrument in many ways!) But I'm very glad I didn't jump into pushing her into music lessons at age 3--she had access to a piano and we sang together, but NOTHING formal, it was all about her climbing up and doing it herself because she wanted to, not about me wanting her to. My husband, OTOH, was forced to play the violin, hated it, gave it up as quickly as he could. If you're still pregnant now, how can you possibly know what *this* child will need until you get to know your child? Just reading everyday to your child will be enough. Don't worry about trying to teach it to read. It's not enough for my child. Children have very bad eyesight (are nearsighted) until their eyes fully develop around age 2-3. That's just not very accurate. A 2-month old can see well across the room. They can't focus on the small text in most books and will only be able to see the pictures. So? One of the biggest "leaps" in learning to read is making the connection that the words Mama says are tied to the printed page. Focusing on the pictures is the first step. But many children's books have quite large type and will be fully adequate for a child to see the words. And why, if they are so not developmentally ready to focus on something like print, are you wanting to push the issue? While it will teach them that books are fun things, I believe in giving them more tools than this. If I sit down and transcribe books so the text is bigger, so they can actually focus on them, and THEN read the books with my child, THAT would be a much more rewarding experience because then they could focus on the words and know that they stood for something. The "reward" in the experience is about sitting on the parent's lap, hearing the parent talk... connecting language with the printed page comes a distant 3rd in that lineup during babyhood. Jenrose |
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"teaching your baby to read"
"Shena Delian O'Brien" wrote in message news:VnYIb.187473$8y1.591606@attbi_s52... Lizajane wrote: intentional! Now, I would never hold my child back from learning something he is clearly ready to learn, but I want him to have a babyhood free from school-like instruction. There are plenty of other ways to learn, and plenty of time later in life for school. I want my children to have a *lifetime* free of school-like instruction. I felt the same way. Then my kid begged to go to kindergarten. Fortunately we found an excellent and remarkably "unschool" like environment within the public school system, and in 5th grade, she not only still loves school, but says her 5th grade teacher is one of the best teachers in the whole world. Having seen just a few snippets of class here and there? I have to agree. The woman makes up songs to help kids understand brain cells... then makes them rounds... because cells are round.... she uses books as rewards, so the kids are eager to read. She talks to every child's parents with the child get the kids to create goal lists, rather than the usual parent-teacher conferences. I hated school, was bored silly, had a few good teachers, was totally socially outcast, etc. My kiddo loves school, is interested, has not had one "bad" teacher or even one "mediocre" or "just kinda okay" teacher, has plenty of friends, etc. She's every bit as bright as I am, maybe moreso. It's just a different program and different people. Nothing wrong with homeschooling--I'd planned on it myself. But there *are* good schools out there, and good schools are possible. Jenrose |
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"teaching your baby to read"
Jenrose wrote:
Flashcards for babies, are, IMO, a complete waste of time in every sense of the word. My DH is appalled by the thought that he might not have been taught to read until school age. He so cherishes the ability that it literally scared him out of his mind when he was a child and learned that there were some people who couldn't read. He has known how to read for as long as he can remember, as his mother taught him using this method. Whether they work or not is irrelevant. That's not the point. The point is that you don't need to waste your baby's precious short "babyhood" time teaching them things they'll just "get" or learn quickly a few years down the road. They will learn quicker the younger you teach them, and they will have fun, and still be babies. It's 15-30 seconds a day, for chrissakes.... *sigh* |
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"teaching your baby to read"
Jenrose wrote:
4 years olds are annoying as hell when it comes to reading books to them over and over again. I didn't want the *same* book. I wanted *new* books. *New* stories. People got tired of reading them to me. I was not tired. you *more* than 2 books at a time, well, good god! Grow up already! Sorry if that's a bit brutal, but it's time to let that go. I'm really inclined to be brutal back, but I'm nicer than that. There's nothing wrong with not wanting your children to suffer the same trauma. I had a very large extended family. I was not neglected, they just didn't know they could teach me to read or that it was acceptable. That's just not very accurate. A 2-month old can see well across the room. Of course they can. But try to get them to focus on print and you'll bore them to tears. That of course is farsightedness - amazing how a child's vision changes as it develops, isn't it? |
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Teaching your baby to read-results
I taught my kids to read with this book and it was the best thing I could have done. By the time all three of my kids hit sixth grade they had college level reading per STAR testing. They love reading and they have become very smart successful adults. I really believe that every parent should teach their child to read before going they start school. My son had to be put into 1st grade (skipped Kinder) because he outscored all their exams. Phonics is good in combination; and, the excitement caused by the child learning to read gives them self esteem and positive ideas about reading. I did a study of low readers and juvenile deliquency and the study shows there is significance.
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