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Is Maman Mean Or Magnifique...??? [for Magda... :-) ]



 
 
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Old June 15th 07, 09:01 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.fan.howard-stern,soc.men,alt.parenting.solutions
R. Steve Walz
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Default Is Maman Mean Or Magnifique...??? [for Magda... :-) ]

Gregory Morrow wrote:

[I think the French have the right idea when it comes to child - raising...]

Is Maman mean or magnifique?

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 15/06/2007

"Living in the heart of Paris, Janine di Giovanni sees daily evidence that
French mothers are strict with their children to the point of cruelty. But
it does seem to work...

A New Zealand friend, a mother of three, recently texted me: "I am in the
park and just saw a French mother kick her son hard then go on talking to
her friends while he cried. What is wrong with these people?"

--------------------------
She was witnessing the process by which the French become the most
cowardly, venal, moralistic AND immoral people in Europe! The reason
the French have quietly moved away from actually practicing Catholicism
in their daily lives is that they are far too SELFISH AND CORRUPT to
do so, and NOT that they have done so because they criticize it for
being wrong and misguided, instead they are ashamed of missing their
confession like naughty little children who have, in their mind, given
up on ever actually BEING good. They see this as being in vogue just
as rich Americans see being greedy as being fashionable these days.

Their abuse by selfish parents makes them selfish adults, ones who
cannot be trusted to make promises and keep them, and who cannot even
vote consistently for what they want if they don't get it right away or
in a startlingly short time. This classic French child abuse is what
makes the French cowardly weasels, dishonest, asinine and a stupidly and
almost charmingly self-involved and morally indolent in the way
that is the absolute charicature of uselessness as a people.

They are so lazy and selfish that they cannot even become quality
Communists, and are ever stuck in a Socialism that they can't make
work because they don't actually want to.


A few days before that, sitting in a café near the Luxembourg Gardens in
Paris, which is unabashed baby central, with my (French) husband, I saw
something even scarier. A tiny child, just walking, was trying to catch up
with his chic and slender mother, who was furiously pushing the buggy
deliberately too fast for the baby to get close to her.

The child was crying frantically, red in the face and holding up his tiny
arms begging her to carry him. There was no way he could catch her. And she
knew it. "Non, non, non," she screeched in a high-pitched voice. She
strolled ahead faster leaving the baby in the dust.

"Don't say it," my husband warned seconds before I nearly said, "what is
wrong with these people?" Instead I muttered, "well, that kid will be in
therapy for the rest of his life."

I joke about these things, but it's not altogether funny. One of the
toughest things I have had to get used to in an otherwise idyllic Paris is
the huge gap between Anglo-Saxon (or Italian American in my case) parenting
and parenting French style. The French are certainly stricter. They shout
more. They slap more. And they enforce manners.

But as a result, you find beautifully brought up children, and many of my
French friends who are parents will argue endlessly that instilling
discipline and setting boundaries is the way of showing the utmost love.

------------------------
What a lie, the European nation of weasels and con artists being called
"beautifully brought up"! A Lie Indeed!!
Steve
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Old June 15th 07, 09:04 PM posted to alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.fan.howard-stern,soc.men,alt.parenting.solutions
Markku Grönroos
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Default Is Maman Mean Or Magnifique...??? [for Magda... :-) ]

kenties hinttari raapustelet juttujas muualla konffista rte


"R. Steve Walz" kirjoitti
...
Gregory Morrow wrote:

[I think the French have the right idea when it comes to child -
raising...]

Is Maman mean or magnifique?

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 15/06/2007

"Living in the heart of Paris, Janine di Giovanni sees daily evidence
that
French mothers are strict with their children to the point of cruelty.
But
it does seem to work...

A New Zealand friend, a mother of three, recently texted me: "I am in the
park and just saw a French mother kick her son hard then go on talking to
her friends while he cried. What is wrong with these people?"

--------------------------
She was witnessing the process by which the French become the most
cowardly, venal, moralistic AND immoral people in Europe! The reason
the French have quietly moved away from actually practicing Catholicism
in their daily lives is that they are far too SELFISH AND CORRUPT to
do so, and NOT that they have done so because they criticize it for
being wrong and misguided, instead they are ashamed of missing their
confession like naughty little children who have, in their mind, given
up on ever actually BEING good. They see this as being in vogue just
as rich Americans see being greedy as being fashionable these days.

Their abuse by selfish parents makes them selfish adults, ones who
cannot be trusted to make promises and keep them, and who cannot even
vote consistently for what they want if they don't get it right away or
in a startlingly short time. This classic French child abuse is what
makes the French cowardly weasels, dishonest, asinine and a stupidly and
almost charmingly self-involved and morally indolent in the way
that is the absolute charicature of uselessness as a people.

They are so lazy and selfish that they cannot even become quality
Communists, and are ever stuck in a Socialism that they can't make
work because they don't actually want to.


A few days before that, sitting in a café near the Luxembourg Gardens in
Paris, which is unabashed baby central, with my (French) husband, I saw
something even scarier. A tiny child, just walking, was trying to catch
up
with his chic and slender mother, who was furiously pushing the buggy
deliberately too fast for the baby to get close to her.

The child was crying frantically, red in the face and holding up his tiny
arms begging her to carry him. There was no way he could catch her. And
she
knew it. "Non, non, non," she screeched in a high-pitched voice. She
strolled ahead faster leaving the baby in the dust.

"Don't say it," my husband warned seconds before I nearly said, "what is
wrong with these people?" Instead I muttered, "well, that kid will be in
therapy for the rest of his life."

I joke about these things, but it's not altogether funny. One of the
toughest things I have had to get used to in an otherwise idyllic Paris
is
the huge gap between Anglo-Saxon (or Italian American in my case)
parenting
and parenting French style. The French are certainly stricter. They shout
more. They slap more. And they enforce manners.

But as a result, you find beautifully brought up children, and many of my
French friends who are parents will argue endlessly that instilling
discipline and setting boundaries is the way of showing the utmost love.

------------------------
What a lie, the European nation of weasels and con artists being called
"beautifully brought up"! A Lie Indeed!!
Steve


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Old June 15th 07, 09:12 PM posted to alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.fan.howard-stern,soc.men,alt.parenting.solutions
R. Steve Walz
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Default Is Maman Mean Or Magnifique...??? [for Magda... :-) ]

=?Windows-1252?Q?Markku_Gr=F6nroos?= wrote:

kenties hinttari raapustelet juttujas muualla konffista rte

-------------------
1) Is that Finnish?
And:
2) What does it mean in English?
Steve


"R. Steve Walz" kirjoitti
...
Gregory Morrow wrote:

[I think the French have the right idea when it comes to child -
raising...]

Is Maman mean or magnifique?

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 15/06/2007

"Living in the heart of Paris, Janine di Giovanni sees daily evidence
that
French mothers are strict with their children to the point of cruelty.
But
it does seem to work...

A New Zealand friend, a mother of three, recently texted me: "I am in the
park and just saw a French mother kick her son hard then go on talking to
her friends while he cried. What is wrong with these people?"

--------------------------
She was witnessing the process by which the French become the most
cowardly, venal, moralistic AND immoral people in Europe! The reason
the French have quietly moved away from actually practicing Catholicism
in their daily lives is that they are far too SELFISH AND CORRUPT to
do so, and NOT that they have done so because they criticize it for
being wrong and misguided, instead they are ashamed of missing their
confession like naughty little children who have, in their mind, given
up on ever actually BEING good. They see this as being in vogue just
as rich Americans see being greedy as being fashionable these days.

Their abuse by selfish parents makes them selfish adults, ones who
cannot be trusted to make promises and keep them, and who cannot even
vote consistently for what they want if they don't get it right away or
in a startlingly short time. This classic French child abuse is what
makes the French cowardly weasels, dishonest, asinine and a stupidly and
almost charmingly self-involved and morally indolent in the way
that is the absolute charicature of uselessness as a people.

They are so lazy and selfish that they cannot even become quality
Communists, and are ever stuck in a Socialism that they can't make
work because they don't actually want to.


A few days before that, sitting in a café near the Luxembourg Gardens in
Paris, which is unabashed baby central, with my (French) husband, I saw
something even scarier. A tiny child, just walking, was trying to catch
up
with his chic and slender mother, who was furiously pushing the buggy
deliberately too fast for the baby to get close to her.

The child was crying frantically, red in the face and holding up his tiny
arms begging her to carry him. There was no way he could catch her. And
she
knew it. "Non, non, non," she screeched in a high-pitched voice. She
strolled ahead faster leaving the baby in the dust.

"Don't say it," my husband warned seconds before I nearly said, "what is
wrong with these people?" Instead I muttered, "well, that kid will be in
therapy for the rest of his life."

I joke about these things, but it's not altogether funny. One of the
toughest things I have had to get used to in an otherwise idyllic Paris
is
the huge gap between Anglo-Saxon (or Italian American in my case)
parenting
and parenting French style. The French are certainly stricter. They shout
more. They slap more. And they enforce manners.

But as a result, you find beautifully brought up children, and many of my
French friends who are parents will argue endlessly that instilling
discipline and setting boundaries is the way of showing the utmost love.

------------------------
What a lie, the European nation of weasels and con artists being called
"beautifully brought up"! A Lie Indeed!!
Steve

 




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