USA source of monovalent MMR equivalents??

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==Daye== wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:27:11 EDT,
(Robyn Kozierok) wrote:

I presume there is
some theory that it is safer to get them in separate jabs, possibly at
separate times? Is there any research to support this?

I am not sure of research. However, these are my personal
reasons for vaccinating my DD the way I did.

Thanks for describing your reasons in detail. Although I personally
disagree with the whole "overloading the immune system" theory, the
idea of knowing which vaccine a child reacted to, if they have a
reaction, makes a lot of sense to me.

--Robyn

Robyn Kozierok wrote:

I guess that was my main point. Is it known or believed that administering
the vaccines separately "nullif[ies] any chance of side effects"? Unless
parents are skipping the vaccines they consider too risky, which has its
own risks.


Can't help you there. I think this is one of the points that needs
to be addressed by future studies. Many people seem concerned about
it, and my gut feeling is that it makes sense the 3 shots in one
have a higher risk than 3 separate shots. However, I don't believe
the risks are ever truly zero, they are just a whole lot smaller
than the risks of your child getting ill with the disease.

--
-- Ilse
mom to Olaf (07/15/2002)
TTC #2
"What's the use of brains if you are a girl?"
Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

Astromum said:

Robyn Kozierok wrote:

I guess that was my main point. Is it known or believed that administering
the vaccines separately "nullif[ies] any chance of side effects"? Unless
parents are skipping the vaccines they consider too risky, which has its
own risks.


Can't help you there. I think this is one of the points that needs
to be addressed by future studies. Many people seem concerned about
it, and my gut feeling is that it makes sense the 3 shots in one
have a higher risk than 3 separate shots.

That's not the way I would look at it.

As I understand it, nearly(?) every adverse reaction that has been
tracked down to the causative agent has been found to have been a
reaction to something in the liquid medium, rather than the antigen
itself.

Giving three separate shots means three exposures to three different
batches of liquid medium.

It makes sense to me that one shot would be much safer.

Lee wrote:

As I understand it, nearly(?) every adverse reaction that has been
tracked down to the causative agent has been found to have been a
reaction to something in the liquid medium, rather than the antigen
itself.

That could be, I don't really know.

Giving three separate shots means three exposures to three different
batches of liquid medium.

It makes sense to me that one shot would be much safer.

Depends on how the vaccin is 'made'. In the Netherlands they
have been known to just mix the two vaccines for DTP and Hib
and give them in one shot. So if an allergic reaction occurs,
you never know which one caused it, and you have a 50% chance
of reoccurence if you want to find out.

--
-- Ilse
mom to Olaf (07/15/2002)
TTC #2
"What's the use of brains if you are a girl?"
Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:53:20 EDT,
(Robyn Kozierok) wrote:

Although I personally
disagree with the whole "overloading the immune system" theory, the
idea of knowing which vaccine a child reacted to, if they have a
reaction, makes a lot of sense to me.

My mother is allergic to the Tetanus vaccine. So knowing if DD
was allergic to any was important to me.

--
==Daye==
Momma to Jayan
#2 EDD 11 Jan 2004
E-mail: brendana AT labyrinth DOT net DOT au

Astromum said:

Lee wrote:

As I understand it, nearly(?) every adverse reaction that has been
tracked down to the causative agent has been found to have been a
reaction to something in the liquid medium, rather than the antigen
itself.

That could be, I don't really know.

Giving three separate shots means three exposures to three different
batches of liquid medium.

It makes sense to me that one shot would be much safer.

Depends on how the vaccin is 'made'. In the Netherlands they
have been known to just mix the two vaccines for DTP and Hib
and give them in one shot. So if an allergic reaction occurs,
you never know which one caused it, and you have a 50% chance
of reoccurence if you want to find out.

If you get an allergic reaction, you do skin tests to determine
what the factor was. Even if two separate shots were given at
the same visit, you would want to do skin tests to be sure you
knew which one had caused the reaction.