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"Sue" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message i see reading lists as one more way to make kids hate reading. if you can't even pick your own books, how are you going to find your own interests? and how do they pick the books for those lists? i was reading Arthur C. Clark in 2nd garde. being forced to read something like Junie B. would have bored me to tears... That's you. My kids love Junie B. And not to mention there are some books that are just not appropriate for little kids even if they are reading at a higher level. However, for the record, we don't have a required reading list at our school, they just want them to read. I love Junie B, and I'm way past 29.... -- Sue (mom to three girls) |
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enigma wrote: my parents were annoyed that teacher wouldn't even return the Aurthur Clark book to them (ok, it was Childhood's End & it's still good sci-fi. i think the teacher just didn't like the title). Uh, did you complain to the principal? That's just plain stealing. Her actions went WAAAAAY beyond appropriate. I never had a teacher take a book away from me, but I did have teachers not believe me when I did read an advanced book. I wasn't allowed to watch TV during the week, and when the miniseries Shogun came out, I couldn't watch it, so my Dad said "Read the book. It's a great book." So I said "yeah, maybe I will!" And did. Then I wrote a book report, and the teacher didn't believe that I'd actually read the book, (she thought I'd just watched it on TV) and I had to get a note from my parents corroborating the story. I was humiliated and hated her for that. Cathy Weeks Mommy to Kivi Alexis 12/01 |
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Kevin Karplus wrote: my 4 year old has read all the Magic Treehouse books... i'm starting him on Lemony Snickett next. I can't see a 4 year old with Lemony Snickett though -- even if he is advanced enough to know all the words, it doesn't seem appropriate storyline for that age. My son started Lemony Snicket around age 6 (still younger than the target audience). I'd recommend waiting at least until then for Lemony Snicket---the storyline and the somewhat twisted humor is not likely to be appreciated by youger readers, even if they are prefectly capable of handling the language. Even keeping in mind that a 4yo capable of reading Lemony Snicket probably prefers more sophisticates story-lines than the average 4yo, I have to agree with the other posters that Lemony Snicket seems like a pretty unlikely choice for even the most advanced 4yo. They're dark and twisted. I'd sooner give him/her the first three Harry Potters, personally. --Robyn |
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enigma wrote: yeah, that's what my second grade teacher said when she took my books away from me. she didn't want me reading anything the other kids weren't... and i'd passed Dick & Jane at age 3. my parents were annoyed that teacher wouldn't even return the Aurthur Clark book to them (ok, it was Childhood's End & it's still good sci-fi. i think the teacher just didn't like the title). and it's unfair of me to pick on Junie B. because that wasn't in print when i was that age. still, i preferred field guides & biology texts... and i loved sci fi (at least i wasn't reading Heinlein g) lee I kind of liked Heinlein -- his juvenile fiction was something I read a great deal as soon as I was old enough. I know his attitude towards women is a problem...but 40 years ago or so it didn't seem important. (The stuff with all the sex wasn't published until I was old enough to read it.) Right now, I'm reading Octavia Butler, and LeGuinne is my absolute favorite (I don't deliberately pick women, but somehow I DO seem to end up preferring women authors!) -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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"Cathy Kearns" wrote in message
I love Junie B, and I'm way past 29.... LOL, me too. I think she is hilarious. I would love to thank the author in person because she is responsible for my first daughter for learning to read and enjoy books. -- Sue (mom to three girls) |
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Hash: SHA1 enigma wrote: snip | yeah, that's what my second grade teacher said when she took | my books away from me. she didn't want me reading anything the | other kids weren't... and i'd passed Dick & Jane at age 3. | my parents were annoyed that teacher wouldn't even return the | Aurthur Clark book to them (ok, it was Childhood's End & it's | still good sci-fi. i think the teacher just didn't like the | title). | and it's unfair of me to pick on Junie B. because that wasn't | in print when i was that age. still, i preferred field guides | & biology texts... and i loved sci fi (at least i wasn't | reading Heinlein g) | lee | I had a teacher (long-term substitute in 3rd grade when my real teacher was on maternity leave) actually suggest to my mother that I was disturbed and in need of counseling because she "caught" me reading Edgar Allen Poe. Thank the DYC that the regular teacher didn't decide to quit entirely to stay home with the new baby! She didn't like anything I read. Susan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCTDJn4Fc1/EucZj4RAvb7AJ94blZkg/165ZJhC7Sh3JpsqxMpgQCaApDo yj+hkFU3vWI6yl7wagEI3zE= =Vpjm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Bruce Bridgman and Jeanne Yang wrote: "Sue" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message i see reading lists as one more way to make kids hate reading. if you can't even pick your own books, how are you going to find your own interests? and how do they pick the books for those lists? i was reading Arthur C. Clark in 2nd garde. being forced to read something like Junie B. would have bored me to tears... That's you. My kids love Junie B. And not to mention there are some books that are just not appropriate for little kids even if they are reading at a higher level. However, for the record, we don't have a required reading list at our school, they just want them to read. -- Sue (mom to three girls) I always saw summer reading lists (for elementary school students) as suggestions for the children to read over the summer. The lists DD's school have are much too long for the children to read every book. Many parents don't know what books are out there for children - I know I have a tough time picking out appropriate books for DD. I have a good grasp of picture books and young adult books but I'm less sure about young reader (2-4 grades) books. Like Sue mentioned, it's the appropriateness of subject and language as well as reading ability. While a child *may* be able to read "Gone with the Wind" or "Ender's Game" (to pick two random books) doesn't mean she *should* read it. Jeanne I don't know - I wouldn't stop my 3rd grader from reading "Gone with the Wind" if she had the stamina for it. (I've never read Ender's Game, so I don't know about that.) I think I was in the 4th grade when I recognized the existence of homosexuality, all because I had read a book that belonged to my parents. Unless a book's out-and-out porn, I don't think I'd stop my child from reading it. Clisby |
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Laura Slesinger wrote:
My husband caught our daughter's teacher on the phone this morning snip advice Well, the post you're quoting is something like a year old, so it's kind of water, bridge, under, if you get my drift ... --Helen |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:52:27 EST, "Sue"
wrote: "enigma" wrote in message i see reading lists as one more way to make kids hate reading. if you can't even pick your own books, how are you going to find your own interests? and how do they pick the books for those lists? i was reading Arthur C. Clark in 2nd garde. being forced to read something like Junie B. would have bored me to tears... That's you. My kids love Junie B. And not to mention there are some books that are just not appropriate for little kids even if they are reading at a higher level. However, for the record, we don't have a required reading list at our school, they just want them to read. Personally, I believe that if the child has the stamina and energy to read a book, and can understand it, then its appropriate. I suppose out and out porn and how to build a bomb might be exceptions, cant think of much else. B |
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In article t,
Clisby wrote: Bruce Bridgman and Jeanne Yang wrote: Like Sue mentioned, it's the appropriateness of subject and language as well as reading ability. While a child *may* be able to read "Gone with the Wind" or "Ender's Game" (to pick two random books) doesn't mean she *should* read it. I don't know - I wouldn't stop my 3rd grader from reading "Gone with the Wind" if she had the stamina for it. (I've never read Ender's Game, so I don't know about that.) I think I was in the 4th grade when I recognized the existence of homosexuality, all because I had read a book that belonged to my parents. Unless a book's out-and-out porn, I don't think I'd stop my child from reading it. Well, there's a difference between stopping a child from reading a book they choose to read, and offering that same book to them. And while I wouldn't prevent an interested younger child from reading a classic better suited to an older audience, I usually don't encourage it either, mainly because many children (mine included) are unlikely to re-read a book once they've read it once (unless they fall in love with it) and so I don't necessarily want to encourage my kids to read a book when they are too young/inexperienced to get out of it all I think/hope they might eventually get out of it. --Robyn |
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