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Old July 19th 07, 08:15 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
bigvince
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

"United States represents the largest market for human vaccines with
sales estimated at US$6.9 billion for 2007. Within Europe, France,
Germany, and United Kingdom together account for more than 3/4th of
the market. In Japan, Pediatric prophylactic vaccines sales are likely
to grow at a compounded annual rate of 9.9% over the period 2005-2010.
Human vaccines market in Asia-Pacific is projected to reach US$1.3
billion by the year 2010. Most multinational companies engaged in
vaccine production are based in the US and Europe.....Pediatric
combination vaccines, another new entrant in the vaccines market are
forecast to fuel growth in the coming years. The market is expected to
witness new levels with adoption of novel vaccine delivery mechanisms
such as edible, oral, and mucosal. Also critical to market success is
the need for using improved adjuvants in vaccines for optimal
immunogenicity.....Dominant players in the market comprise leading
pharmaceutical companies including Sanofi-Aventis, GlaxoSmithKline,
Wyeth, and Merck. These companies together command about 80% share of
the global human vaccines market." - Global Industry Analysts, Inc.

Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

If anyone doubts why drug companies making and selling vaccines are
lobbying so hard to convince California legislators to pass a
precedent-setting law that would automatically mandate every new
vaccine the CDC recommends for "universal use" by all children, the
recent market analysis by Global Industry Analysts gives the answer:
forcing vaccine use is a multi-billion dollar business. The U.S. is
the largest market for human vaccines: vaccine manufacturers will rake
in $6.9B in 2007. Much of the profit is guaranteed because the
lobbying alliance between drug companies, public health officials and
pediatricians that has formed during the past quarter century has
worked hard to convince politicians to mandate the use of more
vaccines by US citizens than are used by any other
Source NVIC7/19/07

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Old July 20th 07, 12:08 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
The One True Zhen Jue
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

I've got a better reason. Vaccines wiped out Small Pox and have
reduced Polio to infintisimal levels. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and a
host of other preventable diseases have been greatly suppressed.
Childhood fatalities & morbidity plummetted as a direct result of
vaccination. Vaccination has likely saved the lives of more people
than any other medical advancement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversy


As for financial motive, $6.9 billion sounds like a lot of money.
Factor in the costs of manufacturing and the minimal mark-up, many
pharmaceutical companies don't want to bother with vaccines.

http://lists.kabissa.org/lists/archi.../msg01134.html

Vaccine Shortage Seen as Evidence of Ailing Strategy
Full article: December 11, 2003, Page A03, Philadelphia Inquirer, The
(PA)

Source: Seth Borenstein INQUIRER WASHINGTON BUREAU

The current U.S. flu-vaccine shortage - one of seven vaccine shortages
in the
last two years - is just the latest symptom of an ailing national
vaccination
strategy, say public-health experts and two federal reports.Vaccines
are not
profitable enough for most drug makers to bother with, experts say.

"Our vaccine system is broke in that we're having these shortages,"
Frank
Sloan, a Duke University health economics professor, said yesterday as
federal
officials scrounged for

Published on December 11, 2003, Page A03, Philadelphia Inquirer, The
(PA)


On Jul 19, 3:15 pm, bigvince wrote:
"United States represents the largest market for human vaccines with
sales estimated at US$6.9 billion for 2007. Within Europe, France,
Germany, and United Kingdom together account for more than 3/4th of
the market. In Japan, Pediatric prophylactic vaccines sales are likely
to grow at a compounded annual rate of 9.9% over the period 2005-2010.
Human vaccines market in Asia-Pacific is projected to reach US$1.3
billion by the year 2010.




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Old July 20th 07, 02:37 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

Here is another one..

http://www.kevinleitch.co.uk/wp/?p=594

The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
I've got a better reason. Vaccines wiped out Small Pox and have
reduced Polio to infintisimal levels. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and a
host of other preventable diseases have been greatly suppressed.
Childhood fatalities & morbidity plummetted as a direct result of
vaccination. Vaccination has likely saved the lives of more people
than any other medical advancement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversy


As for financial motive, $6.9 billion sounds like a lot of money.
Factor in the costs of manufacturing and the minimal mark-up, many
pharmaceutical companies don't want to bother with vaccines.

http://lists.kabissa.org/lists/archi.../msg01134.html

Vaccine Shortage Seen as Evidence of Ailing Strategy
Full article: December 11, 2003, Page A03, Philadelphia Inquirer, The
(PA)

Source: Seth Borenstein INQUIRER WASHINGTON BUREAU

The current U.S. flu-vaccine shortage - one of seven vaccine shortages
in the
last two years - is just the latest symptom of an ailing national
vaccination
strategy, say public-health experts and two federal reports.Vaccines
are not
profitable enough for most drug makers to bother with, experts say.

"Our vaccine system is broke in that we're having these shortages,"
Frank
Sloan, a Duke University health economics professor, said yesterday as
federal
officials scrounged for

Published on December 11, 2003, Page A03, Philadelphia Inquirer, The
(PA)


On Jul 19, 3:15 pm, bigvince wrote:
"United States represents the largest market for human vaccines with
sales estimated at US$6.9 billion for 2007. Within Europe, France,
Germany, and United Kingdom together account for more than 3/4th of
the market. In Japan, Pediatric prophylactic vaccines sales are likely
to grow at a compounded annual rate of 9.9% over the period 2005-2010.
Human vaccines market in Asia-Pacific is projected to reach US$1.3
billion by the year 2010.




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Old July 20th 07, 02:51 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Peter Bowditch
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

bigvince wrote:

Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

If anyone doubts why drug companies making and selling vaccines are
lobbying so hard to convince California legislators to pass a
precedent-setting law that would automatically mandate every new
vaccine the CDC recommends for "universal use" by all children, the
recent market analysis by Global Industry Analysts gives the answer:
forcing vaccine use is a multi-billion dollar business. The U.S. is
the largest market for human vaccines: vaccine manufacturers will rake
in $6.9B in 2007. Much of the profit is guaranteed


The idiotic bitch pretends that sales and profits are the same thing,
even though she knows the truth. Still, lying is her business.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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Old July 20th 07, 06:24 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Jan Drew
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Default A big reason to vaccinate


"Peter Bowditch" called names and blathered:
bigvince wrote:

Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

If anyone doubts why drug companies making and selling vaccines are
lobbying so hard to convince California legislators to pass a
precedent-setting law that would automatically mandate every new
vaccine the CDC recommends for "universal use" by all children, the
recent market analysis by Global Industry Analysts gives the answer:
forcing vaccine use is a multi-billion dollar business. The U.S. is
the largest market for human vaccines: vaccine manufacturers will rake
in $6.9B in 2007. Much of the profit is guaranteed


The idiotic bitch pretends that sales and profits are the same thing,
even though she knows the truth. Still, lying is her business.
--
Peter Bowditch


What lies has the *lady* told?

Here IS just one of your lies, while accusing her.

snip link to commercial web site, even though I really do appreciate
Jan advertising for my employer



Gebesse Computer Consultants
Northmead NSW 2152
PO Box 1166, Parramatta 2124
Australia
Tel: 61-2-96864390
Fax: 61-2-82219418
A.B.N. 25 003 383 604

Gebesse is a computer consulting company specialising in providing services
to small and medium-sized businesses. Our mission is to apply the highest
quality products and services towards solving our clients' business
problems, so that our clients can do what they set out in business to do -
which is not usually to become computer experts. The company has been
operating since October 1987.

The company is owned and managed by Peter Bowditch, who has had over 40
years working with computers and their applications to business.






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Old July 20th 07, 11:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Peter Bowditch
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" called names and blathered:
bigvince wrote:

Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

If anyone doubts why drug companies making and selling vaccines are
lobbying so hard to convince California legislators to pass a
precedent-setting law that would automatically mandate every new
vaccine the CDC recommends for "universal use" by all children, the
recent market analysis by Global Industry Analysts gives the answer:
forcing vaccine use is a multi-billion dollar business. The U.S. is
the largest market for human vaccines: vaccine manufacturers will rake
in $6.9B in 2007. Much of the profit is guaranteed


The idiotic bitch pretends that sales and profits are the same thing,
even though she knows the truth. Still, lying is her business.
--
Peter Bowditch


What lies has the *lady* told?


See where she talks about "rake in $6.9B"? Se where she quotes total
sales, not profit? See where she tries to pretend that the pharma
companies keep all the $6.9 billion?

In other words, see her lie.


Here IS just one of your lies, while accusing her.

snip link to commercial web site, even though I really do appreciate
Jan advertising for my employer


Why is that lie?



Gebesse Computer Consultants


I never mention my employer here, because this is not the place to do
it, but seeing as how you have brought it up, why is this a lie?

Northmead NSW 2152


What is the lie there, Jan? Is it that the company doesn't operate in
Northmead, is it that Northmead isn't in the state of New South Wales,
or is it that the postcode for Northmead isn't 2152?

PO Box 1166, Parramatta 2124


What is the lie there, Jan? Is it that the company doesn't have a post
office box in Parramatta, or is it that the postcode for PO boxes at
Parramatta Post Office isn't 2124? (The postcode for Parramatta street
addresses is 2150.)

Australia


Why is that a lie, Jan? Do you doubt that Ii live and work in
Australia?

Tel: 61-2-snipped


Yes, that is my office telephone number. You do realise that it is
against all Usenet etiquette to publish personal details like
telephone numbers? And don't try to weasel away by saying that the
telephone number is on my business web site. It is, but that site
isn't Usenet.

Fax: 61-2-snipped


Are you saying that the fax number given on my employer's web site is
a lie, Jan?

A.B.N. 25 003 383 604


If you think that I am lying about my company's Australian Business
Number, then you had better contact the Australian Securities &
Investment Commission and the Australian Taxation Office.

www.asic.gov.au
www.ato.gov.au


Gebesse is a computer consulting company specialising in providing services
to small and medium-sized businesses. Our mission is to apply the highest
quality products and services towards solving our clients' business
problems, so that our clients can do what they set out in business to do -
which is not usually to become computer experts. The company has been
operating since October 1987.


Where are the lies, Jan? When you go to the ASIC site to complain
about my lies, you could do well to look up the company and see when
it started business. (The ASIC records only go back to 1990 for some
reason, but if you ask nicely I will fax you a copy of the original
Certificate of Incorporation showing that the date of incorporation
was September 25, 1987.)


The company is owned and managed by Peter Bowditch, who has had over 40
years working with computers and their applications to business.


Where are the lies, Jan? I own the company (with my wife), I manage
it, and I started my first computer job on September 15, 1966. Which
is more than 40 years ago.

(I started my new job on that day, and in the evening went to a social
function with people from my previous employer. One of the people I
met that night is sitting in the next room to me even as we type.)
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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Old July 20th 07, 12:18 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
john
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Default A big reason to vaccinate


"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've got a better reason. Vaccines wiped out Small Pox and have
reduced Polio to infintisimal levels. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and a
host of other preventable diseases have been greatly suppressed.
Childhood fatalities & morbidity plummetted as a direct result of
vaccination. Vaccination has likely saved the lives of more people
than any other medical advancement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination


the great lie that keeps allopathy afloat


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Old July 20th 07, 04:17 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
David Wright
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Default A big reason to vaccinate

In article ,
JOHN wrote:

"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in message
roups.com...
I've got a better reason. Vaccines wiped out Small Pox and have
reduced Polio to infintisimal levels. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and a
host of other preventable diseases have been greatly suppressed.
Childhood fatalities & morbidity plummetted as a direct result of
vaccination. Vaccination has likely saved the lives of more people
than any other medical advancement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination

the great lie that keeps allopathy afloat


John has never been able to explain why the incidence of measles, etc
has plummetted so fast over the last few decades. If you ask him,
he'll immediately try to change the subject and will start blathering
about mortality rates.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Only George Bush could start a war for oil and not get any."
-- Bill Maher






 




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