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Are chiropractors physicians?
"David" wrote in message ink.net... "Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... The resultant placebo effect is significant and can "cure" many patients that haven't responded to allopathic diagnosis and treatment primarily because their symptoms are either entirely psychological, or psychologically augmented symptoms of real physical complaints. HMc TRANSLATION; hmc has no idea what is wrong, so his best shot is to say that "it's all in their head". Fortunatly, more and more people are learning to find other opinions and answers. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "giselle" wrote in message ... Mein wrote: Used to? They ARE. Your mind is going backwards. There is no need to be insulting. After you've gone through approximately 100 m of paperwork wherein neurologists and sports physicians send their injured patients to chiropractors, you might see things a little differently, too. I would not have believed it myself until I saw it. I didn't say that chiropractors accomplished anything. I just said that they provide a service. Some people find value in it. \ Many physcians send some patients to chiropracters, including me. However, it's been my experience that this is done, not because the chiropracters have specific medical treatments that are more effective, but because chiropracters are generally less constrained by scientific honesty. They can do a great song and dance for the patient and really make it believable. The resultant placebo effect is significant and can "cure" many patients that haven't responded to allopathic diagnosis and treatment primarily because their symptoms are either entirely psychological, or psychologically augmented symptoms of real physical complaints. HMc Unless you tell the Chiros that you "send" people exactly that, you sir , are dishonest and a admitted BS artist.. Not one to be trusted. I not only tell the chiropracter exactly that, I tell the patient exactly that as well. I don't believe that you say anything of the sort. If you did, the Chiros would tell you to go screw. If you told paitents that, you would not see that person again. You are an insult to medicine. And, the opinion of my trustworthiness from an idiot like you is of absolutely no concern to me. HMc If that were true, you would not have replied to me. Most chirporacters are so desperate for patients, and the validation they receive from getting a referral from a real doctor, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! that they will not only gladly accept those patients I send them, they would buy me lunch too (no thanks). As to the patients, there's nothing physically wrong with them... SOOOOO, you, in your most goddly superiorty, have determined this. It matters not that someone else finds a problem that you missed. Thank you, your godness. why would I see them back if I can't do anything to help them? Why would they think you could have? Oh, I forgot, you're a chirporacter -- Where did you come up with this bit of BS? you know the answer to that question very well... HMc |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"David" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However, considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them. (...) There you go again, trying to convince folks, that you think. Rather than attack me, why don't you show where what I have said is incorrect? Thanks. Jeff |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call themselves physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as residency. Jeff So, are you calling my 500-odd hours in a human anatomy dissection laboratory studying under a fully qualified PHD in Anatomy from the University of Toronto inappropriate? |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However, considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them. (...) There you go again, trying to convince folks, that you think. Rather than attack me, why don't you show where what I have said is incorrect? Thanks. Jeff Read the curriculum syllabus of CMCC. I spent over 500 hours in a human anatomy lab. My endocrinology course was 200 hours, taught by the chief of Endocrinology at the University Hospital in Toronto, just to cite two examples. Your ignorance is glaring, Jeff. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However, considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them. Idiots way *more important* than you have been trying to do that for over a century. How is it that it has failed miserably? You think maybe some prejudicial ignorance just might be in play here? (...) |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... "David Wright" wrote in message . .. In article , Jeff wrote: And I don't see how chiropractors bridge a gap between physical therapists and physicians. Physical therapists are highly trained professionals how understand anatomy and physiology from their coursework in school. Subluxations aside, what is your basis for implying that chiropractors don't understand anatomy? Are they telling us the leg bone is connected to the arm bone? I did not imply that chiropractors don't understand anatomy. Rather, if they think that the main cause of disease is spinal problems, their understanding of physiology and pathology is why off, IMHO: We don't think that, you uninformed ****head. http://www.chirobase.org/01General/modde.html. While many physical therapists mmight not have as comprensive training in anatomy and physiology, at least the training they have is based on scientifically verifiable principles. While phyisical therapists and physicians have different professional training and different ways of helping people, the gap between PTs and physicians is not one that needs to be filled, espeically by quacks. Jeff |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
Way to show intellectual dishonesty by selective quoting. Really adds honor
to chiropractors and to your position here. Jeff "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message ... Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical science, I don't think Jeff |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However, considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them. (...) There you go again, trying to convince folks, that you think. Rather than attack me, why don't you show where what I have said is incorrect? Thanks. Jeff Perhaps you might "hangout" with a Chiro, and find out for yourself what all the hubbub is about. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Rich" ,@. wrote in message ... On 26 Aug 2003 13:58:06 GMT, (Beverly Erlebacher) wrote: In article JBw2b.52784$K44.1209@edtnps84, stuart wrote: Read the curriculum syllabus of CMCC. I spent over 500 hours in a human anatomy lab. My endocrinology course was 200 hours, taught by the chief of Endocrinology at the University Hospital in Toronto, just to cite two examples. While there are a number of teaching hospitals associated with the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Toronto, there is no "University Hospital" nor any hospital with a similar name. If you want real information to correct the lies of Stu then simply contact the associate dean of CMCC, Rick Ruegg DC ) and he will make it clear that Stu is a psychopathic liar. Aloha, Rich Your ignorance is glaring, Jeff. I do love these self referential posts. ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ The best defense to logic is ignorance. Gee, I have always ignored these chiropractic threads since they are generally irrelevant to real health care...but they're a lot of fun. HMc |
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