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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
MA Metsfan wrote:
R. Steve Walz wrote: HiC wrote: I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. --------------------- If you write up ANYBODY for THEIR SPEECH, I hope you DIE!! We need to DESTROY your kind of **** for this to become America again!! You deserve ANYTHING those girls can do to you. ANYTHING! Steve So let's see. You're OK with the kid being blatantly disrespectful, ----------------- ABSO-****ING-LUTELY!! That is the very thrust of free speech!!! not to mention threatening the teacher's livelihood and actual freedom. ------------------ ANYONE who tries to infringe the right of free speech should be KILLED! Doing anything lesser to them is CHARITY! I believe that accusing someone of abuse is, in most states, only one step down from actually performing the abuse. -------------------- Nobody cares. This fight is WARFARE! And you, in your sick mind, also threaten the teacher. --------------------- You have the sick mind, you threaten human freedom! If you're a teacher, it's no wonder that so many kids are so screwed up... You, sir, are a sick *******. ----------------------- No, you're the sick piece of ****, offending against Human Rights! Steve |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
The Ranger wrote:
MA Metsfan wrote in message to R. Steve Walz banal braying: [snip forgettable text] Walz is the braying jackass of aps. No one there takes him seriously so please don't feed him outside that 'froup. ------------------ Eat **** and die, you whiney little cowardly liar. Steve |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... SumBuny wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... HiC wrote: I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. --------------------- If you write up ANYBODY for THEIR SPEECH, I hope you DIE!! We need to DESTROY your kind of **** for this to become America again!! You deserve ANYTHING those girls can do to you. ANYTHING! Steve Interesting...considering that in the student handbook, disrespect to school personnel is considered an offense in the handbook, and vulgar words are considered suspendable offenses...students are specifically instructed on this, and cannot claim ignorance of the fact--they are given warnings, and then in school suspensions before out of school suspensions... ---------------------------- And YOU deserve anything YOU get TOO, you anti-free piece of ****!! Free Clue: Do they have such rules in junior college? NO! And yet they have no appreciable problem with "law and order". Therefore, why such a rule? Think about it and learn!! Interesting that you would compare a school that students do not have a right to attend to for free (i.e. a college that they must pay tuition for as an adult) to one that they do (i.e. public school education). Yes, this is the same idea that means that students are to be provided with an education at taxpayer expense. But nothing states where they must attend it, and nothing guarantees them the right to verbally harrass anyone while they do so. Oh, and FWIW, I just checked with my university handbook, and it specifically states in its regulations under "Freedom of Speech and Assemblies" The on-campus exercise of public expression and assembly by students and faculty shall be in accordance with the guidelines set forth herein: (1) Responsibility - Each speaker shall be fully responsible for any violation of Federal and State law or University regulation committed by him. (2) Scheduled Assembly and Public Expression - Areas on the campus, except for the assembly area designated on the campus map must be scheduled for organized assemblies and public expression in the Office of Student Activities. (5) Noninterference with University Operation - In order that assemblies and public expression, scheduled and unscheduled, not interfere with the operation of the University or the rights of others, they shall not, for example: (a) Obstruct vehicular, bicycle, pedestrian, or other traffic; (b) Obstruct entrances or exits to buildings or driveways; (c) Interfere with University operation inside or outside any buildings; Students are allowed to have freedom of speech, and may assemble...but nothing allows them to verbally abuse fellow students, staff, or faculty (that could be in violation of federal and/or state laws). You ask if there are any rules in colleges? I would suggest you go to your nearest college and *ask*...you might be surprised--your privilages to attend could depend on how you behave there. My "free clue" to you--you need to behave like an adult there as well... -- Buny --Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." ~ Albert Camus |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
SumBuny wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... SumBuny wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... HiC wrote: I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. --------------------- If you write up ANYBODY for THEIR SPEECH, I hope you DIE!! We need to DESTROY your kind of **** for this to become America again!! You deserve ANYTHING those girls can do to you. ANYTHING! Steve Interesting...considering that in the student handbook, disrespect to school personnel is considered an offense in the handbook, and vulgar words are considered suspendable offenses...students are specifically instructed on this, and cannot claim ignorance of the fact--they are given warnings, and then in school suspensions before out of school suspensions... ---------------------------- And YOU deserve anything YOU get TOO, you anti-free piece of ****!! Free Clue: Do they have such rules in junior college? NO! And yet they have no appreciable problem with "law and order". Therefore, why such a rule? Think about it and learn!! Interesting that you would compare a school that students do not have a right to attend to for free (i.e. a college that they must pay tuition for as an adult) to one that they do (i.e. public school education). Yes, this is the same idea that means that students are to be provided with an education at taxpayer expense. ----------------------- Abso-****ing-lutely! How else can the uneducated become employable than through publically sponsored education?? Not doing so is like expecting someone to lift themselves into the air by their belt! But nothing states where they must attend it, and nothing guarantees them the right to verbally harrass anyone while they do so. ----------------------- We are all equal and free citizens, and we may disagree about what harrassment is. Harrassment in law is 1) following someone around so that they can't escape you, and 2) repeating your opinion beyond the initial exprfession of it merely for purposes of offense. It is NOT any use of "questionable speech", which doesn't exist in law in the USA. Oh, and FWIW, I just checked with my university handbook, and it specifically states in its regulations under "Freedom of Speech and Assemblies" The on-campus exercise of public expression and assembly by students and faculty shall be in accordance with the guidelines set forth herein: (1) Responsibility - Each speaker shall be fully responsible for any violation of Federal and State law or University regulation committed by him. (2) Scheduled Assembly and Public Expression - Areas on the campus, except for the assembly area designated on the campus map must be scheduled for organized assemblies and public expression in the Office of Student Activities. (5) Noninterference with University Operation - In order that assemblies and public expression, scheduled and unscheduled, not interfere with the operation of the University or the rights of others, they shall not, for example: (a) Obstruct vehicular, bicycle, pedestrian, or other traffic; (b) Obstruct entrances or exits to buildings or driveways; (c) Interfere with University operation inside or outside any buildings; ----------------- That's just "public" expression. NOT personal private expression, which is NOT infringed! The appropriateness of public expression to groups is governed by the uses of the venue according to officers of the organization representing its public ownership. And here ends the kind of wording found in such "handbooks". Students are allowed to have freedom of speech, and may assemble...but nothing allows them to verbally abuse fellow students, staff, or faculty ----------------- Now you're inventing wording, the previous was obviously from the Handbook, the rest YOU added was not and in fact CONTRADICTS IT!! Whassamattah you little ****wad? Couldn't you find what you had HOPED TO FIND in that Handbook?? Hmmmm? If they enforced a condemnation of any one kind of PRIVATE PERSONAL speech and not another they would be in violation not only of a couple Amendments to the Constitution, but ALSO be eminently ACTIONABLE in civil court!! (that could be in violation of federal and/or state laws). ------------- No. It isn't. You know that, which is why you're desperately shading the truth here. You ask if there are any rules in colleges? --------------- No! I DIDN'T ask, and that's because I ALREADY KNOW! Having had such illegalities used on our people in the '60's in the SDS and Committe to End the War has prepared me well for this kind of question! Colleges and other such institutions for ADULTS are DEFINITELY restricted by the Constitional guarantees of Free Speech!! They may NOT infringe it in a way different from any other public organ of government in American society. I would suggest you go to your nearest college and *ask*...you might be surprised--your privilages to attend could depend on how you behave there. --------------------- My "privilege" there would depend solely on my matriculation, and not on the content of my personal speech to another that was not disruptive by its venue and NOT for its content! Steve |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
R. Steve Walz wrote:
nimue wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: HiC wrote: I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. --------------------- If you write up ANYBODY for THEIR SPEECH, I hope you DIE!! Really? Well, what would you suggest a teacher do when he hears, say, a boy calling a girl a dick-sucking little **** in front of the class? Think we should just let that go? --------------------------- Yes. That *IS* what we have to do when we hear adults do that. It's just not any of your ****ing business! We need to DESTROY your kind of **** for this to become America again!! Tell me, is it all right for girls to falsely accuse a teacher of molesting them in this dream America of yours? ---------------- In the warfare of fighting for freedom of speech, sure. Wouldn't you? Do you think making up false accusations is a good way to handle what you see as issues with freedom of speech? ------------------- Since we shot people dead for those freedoms, I see no problem with such a lesser measure. In fact I think we should shoot people again! You deserve ANYTHING those girls can do to you. ANYTHING! Oh, well, then I guess you do. So, you think that when the boy is disciplined for calling the girl a dick-sucking little ****, he should handle the situation by immediately accusing the teacher of molesting him, right? ------------------------- Yes! The offender is a criminal! They deserve ANYTHING to punish them! No one has the right to infringe on his right to free speech, no matter how aggregious another thinks that speech might be. The only right a group endeavor has over individual speech is to exclude someone who interrupts the group meeting in a manner that exceeds other interruptions that the group has tolerated, without regard for its subjective content! Steve Okay, so you are completely out of your mind. -- nimue "Let your freak-flag fly, and if someone doesn't get you, move on." Drew Barrymore |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
On Sun, 6 May 2007 21:22:49 -0400, against all advice, something
compelled "nimue" , to say: R. Steve Walz wrote: Okay, so you are completely out of your mind. It's a troll. And not even an amusing one. -- Life is too short to play cheap guitars. |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
"HiC" wrote in message ups.com... I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. W/ this type of statement ... I don't blame the kids for not respecting you. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. Another went on a "**** you mutha****in asshole" etc. etc. tirade as she was leaving the room with a referral. Yep, sugar and spice.... While it's not every kid, this kind of behavior isn't at all rare. And this isn't some inner-city school, it's a suburban area in Florida. They do it with administrators too. I have to wonder how do they go through 9 - 12 years of the school system with the idea that it's okay to behave this way? |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
No, you're going beyond what I said.
Sometimes common sense takes precedence over blind obedience to rules that may be imperfectly crafted or not applicable in all situations. When fleeing the waters of a tsunami wave, I'm not going to stop at the red traffic light and wait for it to turn green. Anyway, what I said was that I'd *rather* go thru the red light to flee the tsunami than worry about whether I violated the traffic laws. Don "Rowley" wrote in message ... So.... an adult that doesn't worry about technicalities.... just so long as he gets what he wants. And we wonder why children display that same tendency to argue about rules. Martin Don K wrote: Actually most states and the federal law require only one party consent for recording conversations. But in this case the stated intent is to record your own teaching methods not conversations. Any nearby conversation within audio range that gets recorded is just coincidental and unintentional. Personally I'd rather have hard exculpatory evidence when facing fabricated charges than worry about technicalities which are arguable. Don "Rowley" wrote in message ... Keep in mind - that it's against the law in some (most?) states to do audio recording without the permission / knowledge of all parties. Martin Don K wrote: "HiC" wrote in message egroups.com... I do substituting in public schools. I get the impression that teens seem different today. Besides the whole pants around the ass, shuffling ghetto attitude, I'm struck by the attitude and comportment of a large number of teen girls - what nasty, surly, outright malevolent pieces of work so many of them are. They dress like hookers, use "mother****er" as casual speech, etc.. I wrote up a couple of the little princesses the other day. One for repeated language issues, and she not only absolutely denied it - even after going on a swearing binge when I advised her she was getting a referral - but I overheard her telling her friends "This is ****in' bull****, I'm gonna tell them he touched me". I wrote a follow-up note to the administration advising them of this. Supposedly this girl's parents are attorneys, she's not some trailer-park kid. Very disturbing that their minds run in that direction - their first instinct is to lie and lash out rather than take responsibility for their behavior. Another went on a "**** you mutha****in asshole" etc. etc. tirade as she was leaving the room with a referral. I suggest you keep a mp3 voice recorder in your shirt pocket running while you teach your classes, just to help you "optimize" your lesson presentations. . A side benefit will be that if some unfounded accusations are made, you will have proof they are bogus and may even be able to seek damages from the parents. For instance, you can buy a Sandisk Sansa 1GB mp3 player/recorder/fm radio for under 50 bucks. http://base.google.com/base/a/105398...91574347547350 Don |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
On May 6, 2:42 pm, Steve Daniels wrote:
Wow. A flasher, a bit of turkey feather, *and* a treble hook. Don't you think that's a bit of overkill there, dude? If you've ever seen his rantings before, he's apparently the result of some psychotropic drug trial gone bad. This clown would be all for orgies between the teen girls and the teachers, adminstration, janitors, etc. What would be hilarious would be for him to actually live in the kind of world he thinks he wants. The irony is, he wouldn't survive 24 hours, the savages would be picking their teeth with his bones before the sun set. |
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Behavior and attitude of modern teens, particularly girls
On Sun, 06 May 2007 19:35:27 -0400, MA Metsfan
wrote: If you're a teacher, it's no wonder that so many kids are so screwed up.. Steve is not a teacher. http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/ -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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