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Old July 10th 06, 01:32 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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I tried to post this last night, so apologies if it appears again.

I never thought I'd be saying this but William and I have reached 1
year of bf'ing, albeit mixed feeding. He has gone down to 2 bf's a day,
one brief one before bed and a longer one in the morning and has 2
bottles of formula at nursery. Alhough at the WE he had a horrible cold
so I was pleased to able to give him a comfort feed later in the
evening. He had a lovely birthday party on Sat, with most of our family
and some friends. I just have to find somewhere to put all his pressies
now!. Here are a few piccies:

http://wwwibbles.co.uk/pics/main.php...&g2_itemId=345

Anyway, I know I've said this before, but I truly believe I wouldn't
have got past 3 weeks without being able to read all the stories and
advice on this group. So a big thank you to you all from us both.

As for William, well he started crawling at 11 months but hasn't shown
a huge interest in anything but a short handheld toddle, has 6 teeth,
would eat bananas till the cows come home but since his cold won't
touch one, is allergic to eggs, loves nursery, crawls down the hall to
the kitchen if his brekkie is being made fast enough. His fascination
on how things work he gets from his dad and his impatience from his mum
(oops). Good and bad, there is never a dull moment with our Wibbles and
we absolutely adore him.

Ta

Jeni

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Old July 10th 06, 03:26 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Rebecca Jo
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wrote:

I tried to post this last night, so apologies if it appears again.

I never thought I'd be saying this but William and I have reached 1
year of bf'ing, albeit mixed feeding. He has gone down to 2 bf's a day,
one brief one before bed and a longer one in the morning and has 2
bottles of formula at nursery. Alhough at the WE he had a horrible cold
so I was pleased to able to give him a comfort feed later in the
evening. He had a lovely birthday party on Sat, with most of our family
and some friends. I just have to find somewhere to put all his pressies
now!. Here are a few piccies:

http://wwwibbles.co.uk/pics/main.php...&g2_itemId=345


he's beautiful. I love the "inspecting the food" face he's making at the
cake. :-D

Anyway, I know I've said this before, but I truly believe I wouldn't
have got past 3 weeks without being able to read all the stories and
advice on this group. So a big thank you to you all from us both.

As for William, well he started crawling at 11 months but hasn't shown
a huge interest in anything but a short handheld toddle, has 6 teeth,
would eat bananas till the cows come home but since his cold won't
touch one, is allergic to eggs, loves nursery, crawls down the hall to
the kitchen if his brekkie is being made fast enough. His fascination
on how things work he gets from his dad and his impatience from his mum
(oops). Good and bad, there is never a dull moment with our Wibbles and
we absolutely adore him.


That sounds great. :-D Congratulations on nursing him this far!

rj


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Old July 11th 06, 01:01 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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Congratulations Jeni! (and William too!)

Just wondering what are the plans for milk transitioning at nursery? I
always mention this because I feel worse if people turn round in a years
time and say I didn't know. Basically the advice I was given by just about
everyone, dentist health visitor, speech therapist, etc. is to stop bottles
at 12 months, 2 reasons for this, 1 is that the way it puts the liquid into
the mouth makes it pool and is more liable to cause tooth decay and the
other and more concerning one is to do with speech development, I don't
fully understand the link, but there is something about development of the
palate and forming words, not being helped by using bottles. Anyway, I'm
sure the nursery staff will have ideas as they must do it with loads of
children, some people switch to cows milk then ditch the bottles, others do
it the opposite way round.

Cheers

Anne


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Old July 11th 06, 01:32 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Rebecca Jo wrote:
wrote:

!. Here are a few piccies:

http://wwwibbles.co.uk/pics/main.php...&g2_itemId=345


he's beautiful. I love the "inspecting the food" face he's making at the
cake. :-D


Thanks . He's getting much better at hand-feeding now but still can't
see the point in spoon-feeding when someone else is there to shove it
in

Anyway, I know I've said this before, but I truly believe I wouldn't
have got past 3 weeks without being able to read all the stories and
advice on this group. So a big thank you to you all from us both.

As for William, well he started crawling at 11 months but hasn't shown
a huge interest in anything but a short handheld toddle, has 6 teeth,
would eat bananas till the cows come home but since his cold won't
touch one, is allergic to eggs, loves nursery, crawls down the hall to
the kitchen if his brekkie is being made fast enough. His fascination
on how things work he gets from his dad and his impatience from his mum
(oops). Good and bad, there is never a dull moment with our Wibbles and
we absolutely adore him.


That sounds great. :-D Congratulations on nursing him this far!


Ta.

Jeni

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Old July 11th 06, 01:38 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Beth Kevles
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Hi --

I don't see why you're linking the transition FROM bottles to the
transition TO cow's milk. Why not just offer whatever liquid you've
already been offering, but put it in a cup?

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

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Old July 11th 06, 01:40 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Anne Rogers wrote:
Congratulations Jeni! (and William too!)


Thanks Anne.

Just wondering what are the plans for milk transitioning at nursery? I
always mention this because I feel worse if people turn round in a years
time and say I didn't know. Basically the advice I was given by just about
everyone, dentist health visitor, speech therapist, etc. is to stop bottles
at 12 months, 2 reasons for this, 1 is that the way it puts the liquid into
the mouth makes it pool and is more liable to cause tooth decay and the
other and more concerning one is to do with speech development, I don't
fully understand the link, but there is something about development of the
palate and forming words, not being helped by using bottles. Anyway, I'm
sure the nursery staff will have ideas as they must do it with loads of
children, some people switch to cows milk then ditch the bottles, others do
it the opposite way round.


Thanks for this. I was going to post on the very same thing when I
remembered. At present we have discovered he will sip cows milk the
same way as he sips water, but so far won't have it as a replacement
for his bottle. We did try it briefly at the weekend but we didn't know
till the evening how bad he was feeling so realise now it was a bad
time to try. The problem is that he still has between 4 and 8 oz twice
a day so getting through a sippy cup of that much would take forever
and he'd get very frustrated.

I'm not sure what the answer is, only that I agree it would be better
to ditch the bottles. Any ideas on how to do (this bearing in mind the
nursery have limited time and people to take it too slow) would be very
welcome. In the meantime we will have another go at the bottle so at
least he is on the way to transitioning from formula.

Jeni

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Old July 11th 06, 04:07 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Beth Kevles
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Whether cow's milk or formula is "better" depends upon how old the baby
is and whether the baby is otherwise eating a varied diet. An infant,
for example, who eats no solids is MUCH better off eating formula than
cow's milk. A 12-month old who eats fruits but not other solids would
do better on formula than cow's milk. A 12-month old who eats a bit of
everything is probably fine on cow's milk rather than formula. And a
10-year old who eats a varied diet shouldn't need formula at all!

Formula is a "whole food". It provides all the nutrition (different
vitamins, proteins, etc.) that a baby needs. Cow's milk is not a whole
food (unless you're a calf). It provides some of the nutrition that
humans needs, but certainly not all, not even if you're a human infant.
(And it's not a *necessary* part of anyone's diet, although it's
certainly a convenient source of certain nutritional elements.)

I hope this clarifies matters,
--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.
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Old July 11th 06, 05:10 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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I don't see why you're linking the transition FROM bottles to the
transition TO cow's milk. Why not just offer whatever liquid you've
already been offering, but put it in a cup?


I'm just saying what a lot of people do! In the UK there is a fairly strong
recomendation to breastfeed or formula feed until age 1, and I have come
across many many people who take that to literally mean they transition to
cows milk on the dot of 1, hence the ordering thing, change the milk then
get rid of the bottle or the other way round. Of course your suggestion
makes by far the most sense, but then formula costs quite a lot more than
plain cows milk!

Anne


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Old July 11th 06, 05:15 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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Jeni wrote:
Thanks for this. I was going to post on the very same thing when I
remembered. At present we have discovered he will sip cows milk the
same way as he sips water, but so far won't have it as a replacement
for his bottle. We did try it briefly at the weekend but we didn't know
till the evening how bad he was feeling so realise now it was a bad
time to try. The problem is that he still has between 4 and 8 oz twice
a day so getting through a sippy cup of that much would take forever
and he'd get very frustrated.

I'm not sure what the answer is, only that I agree it would be better
to ditch the bottles. Any ideas on how to do (this bearing in mind the
nursery have limited time and people to take it too slow) would be very
welcome. In the meantime we will have another go at the bottle so at
least he is on the way to transitioning from formula.


actually I never stated my personal preference, which would be to never give
cows milk in a bottle, it's semi irrational, based on the fact that at least
formula is designed for bottles, but then as it seems to be the speech
reason that leads the reasons for getting of bottles it probably doesn't
matter what is actually in it.

I think if was me I would have them give one of the feeds from a sippy (no
valve - just as bad for speech apparently), the one when he is most awake
and the other stick with a bottle, then go to all cup, which would hopefully
happen in 2 weeks to a month, then transition to cows milk, if necessary by
doing 10% 90% and working the amount of formula down over another two weeks
to a month.

Cheers

Anne


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Old July 11th 06, 05:19 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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"Beth Kevles" wrote in message
...

Whether cow's milk or formula is "better" depends upon how old the baby
is and whether the baby is otherwise eating a varied diet. An infant,
for example, who eats no solids is MUCH better off eating formula than
cow's milk. A 12-month old who eats fruits but not other solids would
do better on formula than cow's milk. A 12-month old who eats a bit of
everything is probably fine on cow's milk rather than formula. And a
10-year old who eats a varied diet shouldn't need formula at all!

Formula is a "whole food". It provides all the nutrition (different
vitamins, proteins, etc.) that a baby needs. Cow's milk is not a whole
food (unless you're a calf). It provides some of the nutrition that
humans needs, but certainly not all, not even if you're a human infant.
(And it's not a *necessary* part of anyone's diet, although it's
certainly a convenient source of certain nutritional elements.)


EXACTLY!

Sounds like William has a reasonably varied diet, but it would certainly do
him no harm to continue with formula for a while.

If it was from the point of view of teeth you were concerned about, then
I've been trying to find the answer to that one myself. We've ummed and
arrrred about giving our 3yr old some formula as he's not doing that great
and our main worry was teeth but we could not find a sensible answer. I
think at this stage the bottles are more risk to teeth than which milk
choice you make. It doesn't sound like you are, but just about the worst
thing you can do for teeth is put juice in a bottle.

Anne


 




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