Accused Teen Said to Keep Enemies List

"Mel Gamble" wrote in message
...
Columbine was an anomaly. The problem is kids who have failed to develop
a
sense of worth and a sense of responsibility, kids who have failed to
learn
that actions have consequences, kids that have their values all screwed
up.
Columbine was ONE example of an "intact" family which failed to instill
these
important lessons, possilbly in spite of all good intentions. This story
is
ALSO an anomaly - it is ONE example of a single father who failed in the
same
way.

But our prisons and juvenile detention centers are FULL of the status
quo -
(mostly) men from single-mother-headed "families" where that same teaching
failed.

Kids from an intact family CAN "go bad". Kids from a single father home
CAN
"go bad". But the statistics show that the odds of a kid going bad are
MUCH
higher for kids from single mother homes.

A fact that the family kourts (and their advocates) just LOVE to ignore; or
they are well aware of it and simply choose to push their evil agenda.


Mel Gamble

If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent homes
where the father is the single parent.


On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife died
nearly
10
years ago

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
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If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

I don't know which I find more amusing - that you would use the posting of
a
newspaper article as yet another opportunity to flame me,
personally........ or
that you would attempt to flame me personally, and my mothering, when
you've met
neither me, nor my children.

Have you met Bill Clinton personally?










On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife
died
nearly
10
years ago

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:16:05 GMT, "Bob Whiteside"
wrote:


"Kenneth S." wrote in message
...
I'm not much concerned with convincing YOU about anything, Miz
Moonshine. Since the days when you used to post under the name
Anastasia, you have demonstrated that your views are of little account.
(And it speaks volumes that, for your Internet names, your first choice
was someone who was convincingly demonstrated to be a fraud, and your
second was an alcoholic beverage that rots the brains of people in the
backwoods).

Kenneth you are being too kind. The regulars here know "MoonShyne" means
Amy is exposing her bare buttocks into the face of the former Ms. Shyne who
posts here and has called Amy on the fabricated, delusional postings and her
propensity to display aggressive PAS characteristics.

This is completely correct.

I'm just wondering how Moonie's imaginary second husband is dealing with all
of her man hating rhetoric.

Cardboard never feels pain.

I would love to meet her lawyer, who tells her that her innumerable
ongoing court cases against her ex can be filed under her former
husband's last name instead of her supposedly new married name. Huh.
That's a first.

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:13:46 -0400, "Kenneth S."
wrote:

Bob Whiteside wrote:

"Kenneth S." wrote in message
...
I'm not much concerned with convincing YOU about anything, Miz
Moonshine. Since the days when you used to post under the name
Anastasia, you have demonstrated that your views are of little account.
(And it speaks volumes that, for your Internet names, your first choice
was someone who was convincingly demonstrated to be a fraud, and your
second was an alcoholic beverage that rots the brains of people in the
backwoods).

Kenneth you are being too kind. The regulars here know "MoonShyne" means
Amy is exposing her bare buttocks into the face of the former Ms. Shyne who
posts here and has called Amy on the fabricated, delusional postings and her
propensity to display aggressive PAS characteristics.

I'm just wondering how Moonie's imaginary second husband is dealing with all
of her man hating rhetoric.


You're right, Bob. Being too kind has always been a problem for me.

Not a bad fault to have.

But the thought of Miz Moonshine's bare buttocks is too much even for
kind old me to stomach. All I can do is avert my eyes from such a
hideous sight.

Good policy. If they're anything like her face, they are pockmarked
with acne scars and overly pierced.

I offered her a deal -- change her cleverly offensive name, and I'll
stop replying to all of her posts. She chooses not to. She likes the
negative attention, which she calls "harassment."

"Sunny" wrote in message
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:20:19 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:


"The Dave©" wrote in message
ws.com...
"Moon Shyne" wrote
"Kenneth S." wrote
Little Ms. Moonshine apparently is trying to turn
this into a debate about the relative merits of
children growing up in fatherless v.
motherless families.

I didn't turn anything into anything - I posted the
original link to the newspaper story.

If it were only that. You also posted a comment, did you not?

She did.

What was the
purpose behind your comment?

I posted no comments of my own - it was a quote out of the article.

It's often hard to tell the difference, seeing as you have a penchant
for plagiarism.

But you DID post a comment:

"Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin' children. Those of us mothers raising good, considerate
children would probably appreciate it."

That was not in the article.

Who is the "us" that you refer to? You are including yourself among
good mothers, after all you have done?

Your children, while perhaps considerate to you, are damaged by your
actions toward their father. That is a given.

Still can't control yourself - just have to keep replying to my posts.........
*that* is a given.


You, on the other hand, appear to be trying to hi-jack
this into your own personal soapbox, for a harangue that
we've all seen you post innumerable times.

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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
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If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

I don't know which I find more amusing - that you would use the posting of
a
newspaper article as yet another opportunity to flame me,
personally........ or
that you would attempt to flame me personally, and my mothering, when
you've met
neither me, nor my children.

Have you met Bill Clinton personally?

Non sequitor











On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife
died
nearly
10
years ago

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Sunny" wrote in message
...

Sybil?

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't
believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic
psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent
up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be
pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids'
internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But
it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single
parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

I don't know which I find more amusing - that you would use the
posting of
a
newspaper article as yet another opportunity to flame me,
personally........ or
that you would attempt to flame me personally, and my mothering, when
you've met
neither me, nor my children.

Have you met Bill Clinton personally?

Non sequitor

It's not a comment; it's a question.












On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his
wife
died
nearly
10
years ago

They just don't give a nasty what happens to the kids, Chris. And that's
giving them the benefit of the doubt - they may well rejoice every time one of
them shows indications of turning out like the young man in the article....job
security at any cost.

Mel Gamble

"Mel Gamble" wrote in message
...
Columbine was an anomaly. The problem is kids who have failed to develop
a
sense of worth and a sense of responsibility, kids who have failed to
learn
that actions have consequences, kids that have their values all screwed
up.
Columbine was ONE example of an "intact" family which failed to instill
these
important lessons, possilbly in spite of all good intentions. This story
is
ALSO an anomaly - it is ONE example of a single father who failed in the
same
way.

But our prisons and juvenile detention centers are FULL of the status
quo -
(mostly) men from single-mother-headed "families" where that same teaching
failed.

Kids from an intact family CAN "go bad". Kids from a single father home
CAN
"go bad". But the statistics show that the odds of a kid going bad are
MUCH
higher for kids from single mother homes.

A fact that the family kourts (and their advocates) just LOVE to ignore; or
they are well aware of it and simply choose to push their evil agenda.


Mel Gamble

If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent homes
where the father is the single parent.


On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife died
nearly
10
years ago

"Chris" wrote in message news:aqrPa.1112$zy.60@fed1read06...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
news:8LfPa.548$zy.363@fed1read06...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't
believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic
psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent
up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be
pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids'
internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But
it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single
parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

I don't know which I find more amusing - that you would use the
posting of
a
newspaper article as yet another opportunity to flame me,
personally........ or
that you would attempt to flame me personally, and my mothering, when
you've met
neither me, nor my children.

Have you met Bill Clinton personally?

Non sequitor

It's not a comment; it's a question.

It still has nothing to do with anything - nor does it have anything to do with
people who would use the posting of a newspaper article (about someone else) as
an opportunity to attack me and my mothering of my children, when they've met
neither.

If they want to continue to make things up this way, they only make themselves
look bad.














On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his
wife
died
nearly
10
years ago