Sevredol / morphine sulphate

Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for
pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as
Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which
seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only
nursing my three year old twice a day.
She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering
feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can
reassure me/offer any advice or info?
thanks!

--
Amy

On Jun 15, 3:47 pm, "Mum of Two" wrote:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for
pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as
Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which
seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only
nursing my three year old twice a day.
She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering
feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can
reassure me/offer any advice or info?
thanks!

Lactmed doesn't make morphine sound too bad for an older nursling.
It lists it:

AAP Category:
Usually compatible with breastfeeding

You look it up at:

http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search

I am not a medical professional though.

--Betsy

Mum of Two skrev:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for
pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as
Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which
seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only
nursing my three year old twice a day.
She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering
feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can
reassure me/offer any advice or info?
thanks!


I had a morphine something after my c-sec at the hospital - in a very
nursing friendly hosp, that is. No-one said anything about not nursing.

On the other hand - it's nearly 15 years ago.

Tine, Denmark

Mum of Two wrote:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for
pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as
Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which
seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only
nursing my three year old twice a day.

Good grief, that sounds OTT. In the first place, given that opiate
derivatives are routinely given to women in labour, I can't see why
there should be an issue with breastfeeding a three-year-old after
taking a dose. In the second place, morphine can be given directly to
children if there's a therapeutic need for it, so it would be improbable
that your milk would contain a high enough dose to be dangerous. In the
third place, if Sevredol was the drug you had, that's short-acting
anyway and should have mostly left your system by now.

The 2004 copy of the British National Formulary which is the best
official source I've got handy says that therapeutic doses are OK. I
would just go ahead and nurse her.


All the best,

Sarah
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http://www.goodenoughmummy.typepad.com

"That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be" - P. C. Hodgell

absolute rubbish, morphine isn't universally used post c-section, but
fairly frequently, no one tells them not to breastfeed! I'm pretty sure
I looked it up in Hales in the dim and distant past, the first risk was
sedation in the baby, which is not necessarily a problem as long as it's
temporary, the risk if it's taken regularly would be addiction, but
that's a pretty low risk in people taking morphine for genuine pain, and
through the milk they get less, I don't know if there have been any
reported cases of baby having an addiction through theraputic use when
breastfeeding (there definitely is when used for the same reasons in
pregnancy, but it's a different transfer method).

Anne

"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
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absolute rubbish, morphine isn't universally used post c-section, but
fairly frequently, no one tells them not to breastfeed! I'm pretty sure I
looked it up in Hales in the dim and distant past, the first risk was
sedation in the baby, which is not necessarily a problem as long as it's
temporary, the risk if it's taken regularly would be addiction, but that's
a pretty low risk in people taking morphine for genuine pain, and through
the milk they get less, I don't know if there have been any reported cases
of baby having an addiction through theraputic use when breastfeeding
(there definitely is when used for the same reasons in pregnancy, but it's
a different transfer method).

Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect.
Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and
stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and
poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and
student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to
figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's
deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you
can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate
things.

Amy

Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect.
Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and
stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and
poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and
student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to
figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's
deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you
can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate
things.

yikes you are having a tough time

I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does
keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually
asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain
relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine
that does that, even quite close varients are fine.

Anne

"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
...


Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect.
Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and
stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand)
and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum
and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I
have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as
she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment
if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to
complicate things.

yikes you are having a tough time

I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does
keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually
asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain
relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine
that does that, even quite close varients are fine.

It was only one dose, so it should be long gone by now, though I have had
some -strange- dreams. We have a lot of Aspergers in our family, and I can
see traits coming through in DD, though whether they're part of her nature
or accquired it's hard to say. She's very bright, high energy, extremely
pedantic and quick to melt down. It seems to be getting harder as she gets
older, plus she has a lot going on at the moment - father and paternal
grandparents both moving away to different places. I'm finding it impossible
with full time study. It hasn't been an easy year for either of us.

Amy

Mum of Two skrev:
"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
...
Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect.
Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and
stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand)
and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum
and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I
have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as
she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment
if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to
complicate things.
yikes you are having a tough time

I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does
keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually
asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain
relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine
that does that, even quite close varients are fine.

It was only one dose, so it should be long gone by now, though I have had
some -strange- dreams. We have a lot of Aspergers in our family, and I can
see traits coming through in DD, though whether they're part of her nature
or accquired it's hard to say. She's very bright, high energy, extremely
pedantic and quick to melt down. It seems to be getting harder as she gets
older, plus she has a lot going on at the moment - father and paternal
grandparents both moving away to different places. I'm finding it impossible
with full time study. It hasn't been an easy year for either of us.

Amy



High IQ is a cross and a blessing. Some confuse Aspergers with high IQ -
especially in Denmark where i live.

I have nerdy high IQ kids myself. You get a lot of work, but you also
get a lot of fun and pleasures.

It does get easier - especially when they reach the point where you can
explain to them that they are a bit different and that they have to have
tolerance towards the less gifted.

But to see them light up when they understand something complex at a
very early age - that's really fun.

My daughter was fascinated by primes at the age of five.

I wonder how my own mom felt......

Tine, Denmark

"Workingmom" wrote in message
It does get easier - especially when they reach the point where you can
explain to them that they are a bit different and that they have to have
tolerance towards the less gifted.

(rolls eyes)

I think it should be the other way around. Gifted people are extremely hard
to be around and most of the time, not very socially inept.
--
Sue