As Disbarred Probert would say ... prescribing doctors MURDERED 2000 PEOPLE!

LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
.... which continues to date.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html
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Ilena Rose wrote:

LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

True. When the facts came out that they had knowledge of the cardiac
problems, I immediately called for a full investigation and possible
criminal prosecution.


It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
... which continues to date.

Not at all. However, it is true that I did wait for all the evidence to
come out. Unlike the kneeJERKers, I do not foam at the mouth immediately.

Ilena Rose wrote in message
...
Good question Skeptic ...

Let's see, are you hypothesizing that people took more of the
medication than prescribed (probably because they were still in pain,
not that the wanted to spend more $$ on this expensive drug) which led
to the heart attack deaths?

I'm not hypothesizing anything. It was well publicized that some of the
early reports of problems were with patients who were on doses of medication
used to treat the severe pain associated with severe arthritis, which
exceeds the recommended dose.

I'm not saying it was wrong to do that nor am I saying that makes everything
ok, nor am I saying all cases were like that... thus the question.

By the way, did you ever answer my question to you? Namely, do you deal at
all with male patients suffering from the sequelae of silicone based
testicular implants, or just women and breast implants?

BTW ... it's the industry deception that I find fault with ... like
the silicone manufactures and now the Vioxx makers who did the dangers
for years ... and then have fools like Barrett's Probert here to
attempt to change industry history.

speaking of vioxx - have any of the deaths alleged to be related been as a
result of taking therapeutic doses? I seem to recall the early
information suggested the doses associated with it tended to be well
above the label's recommendation, as in treating refractory arthritis,
etc.




On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:26:24 -0600, Ilena Rose wrote:



LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
... which continues to date.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html
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Ilena Rose wrote:
LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

I remember. It was shameful.

It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
... which continues to date.

He apparently wants to be like Barrett.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html
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Skeptic wrote:
Ilena Rose wrote in message
...
Good question Skeptic ...

Let's see, are you hypothesizing that people took more of the
medication than prescribed (probably because they were still in pain,
not that the wanted to spend more $$ on this expensive drug) which led
to the heart attack deaths?

I'm not hypothesizing anything. It was well publicized that some of the
early reports of problems were with patients who were on doses of medication
used to treat the severe pain associated with severe arthritis, which
exceeds the recommended dose.

I'm not saying it was wrong to do that nor am I saying that makes everything
ok, nor am I saying all cases were like that... thus the question.

By the way, did you ever answer my question to you? Namely, do you deal at
all with male patients suffering from the sequelae of silicone based
testicular implants, or just women and breast implants?

I recall that Ms. Rosenthal did respond, with an affirmative answer. She
is consistent in her questioning of silicone based implants.


BTW ... it's the industry deception that I find fault with ... like
the silicone manufactures and now the Vioxx makers who did the dangers
for years ... and then have fools like Barrett's Probert here to
attempt to change industry history.

speaking of vioxx - have any of the deaths alleged to be related been as a
result of taking therapeutic doses? I seem to recall the early
information suggested the doses associated with it tended to be well
above the label's recommendation, as in treating refractory arthritis,
etc.




On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:26:24 -0600, Ilena Rose wrote:


LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
... which continues to date.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html
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PeterB wrote:
Ilena Rose wrote:
LOL ... Disbarred Merck Probert is lying yet again ...

When the news first broke on the Vioxx disaster ... he defended Merck
and applauded them for 'voluntarily' pulling the product ...

I remember. It was shameful.

Check your memory, and check Google. Work on it.

The initial reports implied that the company was advised, and then
pulled Vioxx off the shelves.

Only later was their cover up reported, and when that happened, I called
for a criminal investigation and prosecution.


It wasn't until all the evidence was undeniable, that he did his
backtrack and attemped to change history about his support for Merck
... which continues to date.

He apparently wants to be like Barrett.

You are so wrong that if you amputated your entire left side you would
still not be right.

I have constantly and consistently criticized Barrett for his litigious
actions. There is a proper time for litigation, and, he has managed not
to be able to pick a correct time as yet. There are also proper issues
for litigation, and, he has not as yet picked one that I agree with.

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Skeptic wrote:
Ilena Rose wrote in message
...
Good question Skeptic ...

Let's see, are you hypothesizing that people took more of the
medication than prescribed (probably because they were still in pain,
not that the wanted to spend more $$ on this expensive drug) which led
to the heart attack deaths?

I'm not hypothesizing anything. It was well publicized that some of the
early reports of problems were with patients who were on doses of
medication used to treat the severe pain associated with severe
arthritis, which exceeds the recommended dose.

I'm not saying it was wrong to do that nor am I saying that makes
everything ok, nor am I saying all cases were like that... thus the
question.

By the way, did you ever answer my question to you? Namely, do you deal
at all with male patients suffering from the sequelae of silicone based
testicular implants, or just women and breast implants?

I recall that Ms. Rosenthal did respond, with an affirmative answer. She
is consistent in her questioning of silicone based implants.

Yep, I caught her repost. Missed it as I was off skiing.