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Old March 2nd 06, 05:49 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.


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Old March 2nd 06, 08:02 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the
measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for
the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby
becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.


And all the kids recovered, right?


That's an ASSumption, right?

The FACT is it happens.

Actually hyptonia is associated with both physical and learning
disabilities, which of course last a lifetime.

Convulsions can result in any number of injuries. Any mild or major seizure
is caused by sudden abnormal function of the brain.



Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For
fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."


Only one in ten fatalities gets reported? How do they make this **** up?


As all can see above, who didn't make it up.

YOU, OTOH, have NO medical training, or experience. Your specialty IS making
things up!

See link above for entire report.

--
Peter Bowditch



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Old March 2nd 06, 09:42 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the
measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for
the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby
becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.


And all the kids recovered, right?


That's an ASSumption, right?


If they hadn't recovered it would have been mentioned.

The FACT is it happens.

Actually hyptonia is associated with both physical and learning
disabilities, which of course last a lifetime.

Convulsions can result in any number of injuries. Any mild or major seizure
is caused by sudden abnormal function of the brain.



Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For
fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."


Only one in ten fatalities gets reported? How do they make this **** up?


As all can see above, who didn't make it up.


Do you seriously believe that only one in two fatalities is reported? What are they doing
with the rest of the bodies? Putting them in the garbage and pretending nothing happened?

How do they make this **** up?

YOU, OTOH, have NO medical training, or experience. Your specialty IS making
things up!

See link above for entire report.

--
Peter Bowditch


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Old March 2nd 06, 02:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.


Thanks for the article. The drug makers have been living off the dead
for a long time.

PeterB

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Old March 2nd 06, 03:52 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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PeterB wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.



Thanks for the article. The drug makers have been living off the dead
for a long time.

PeterB


What is it PeterB? Is 'Big Pharma' keeping us sick, so they can
continuously make us pay through the nose for their wares, or are they
killing their clientele? You can't have it both ways you know. Sorry, I
forgot, in your world, where you make up the meaning of words and make
up the rules as you go along (and as *you* please) anything goes.
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Old March 2nd 06, 04:07 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Jan Drew" wrote in message
om...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the
measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents
prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby
becomes floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For
fatalities, it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for
other side effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.


And in that report, the following statement is made,
"Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and
Immunisation, which concluded that no significant safety issues were
identified."

If you read about the 4 deaths, its not clear if any were even related to
the vaccines. In 2 cases the cause of death is not even known. One case is
a case of "cot death" (SIDS) after an unspecified period of time after a
vaccination. SIDS can occur to any child. If it occurs following a bottle
of milk, do we blame the milk?

While I don't downplay the possibility of side effects, such articles as
this one - a not-so-secret report with unsubstantiated claims and
allegations - is reckless. Even if there are deaths from the vaccine, the
risk of a world without vaccines is far far far greater.


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Old March 2nd 06, 04:23 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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JohnDoe wrote:
PeterB wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.



Thanks for the article. The drug makers have been living off the dead
for a long time.

PeterB


What is it PeterB? Is 'Big Pharma' keeping us sick, so they can
continuously make us pay through the nose for their wares, or are they
killing their clientele? You can't have it both ways you know. Sorry, I
forgot, in your world, where you make up the meaning of words and make
up the rules as you go along (and as *you* please) anything goes.


They have the best of both worlds. Population growth ensures a steady
supply of patients, while profits are made off the sick and dying. Who
said they can't have it both ways? Tell your sponsors I said hello.

PeterB

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Old March 2nd 06, 08:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
...
"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations
in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the
measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for
the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby
becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

And all the kids recovered, right?


That's an ASSumption, right?


If they hadn't recovered it would have been mentioned.


Priceless!

*Secret* report.



The FACT is it happens.

Actually hyptonia is associated with both physical and learning
disabilities, which of course last a lifetime.

Convulsions can result in any number of injuries. Any mild or major
seizure
is caused by sudden abnormal function of the brain.



Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities
and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For
fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

Only one in ten fatalities gets reported? How do they make this **** up?


As all can see above, who didn't make it up.


Do you seriously believe that only one in two fatalities is reported? What
are they doing
with the rest of the bodies? Putting them in the garbage and pretending
nothing happened?


Who knows? SECRET report!

How do they make this **** up?

YOU, OTOH, have NO medical training, or experience. Your specialty IS
making
things up!

See link above for entire report.

--
Peter Bowditch


--
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Old March 2nd 06, 08:24 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Skeptic" wrote in message
news:eLENf.831226$xm3.458205@attbi_s21...

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
om...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations
in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the
measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents
prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby
becomes floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities
and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the
former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For
fatalities, it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for
other side effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.


And in that report, the following statement is made,
"Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and
Immunisation, which concluded that no significant safety issues were
identified."


AND.

Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and 2003. The
deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines against
diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported to the Medicines and
Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). They include a baby who died
from a heart attack. Another died after a polio jab.

Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA "yellow card" warning system, set up
to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although making such a report
does not prove that vaccination caused death or injury, it means that
doctors fear it may have played a part.

If you read about the 4 deaths, its not clear if any were even related to
the vaccines. In 2 cases the cause of death is not even known. One case
is a case of "cot death" (SIDS) after an unspecified period of time after
a vaccination. SIDS can occur to any child. If it occurs following a
bottle of milk, do we blame the milk?

While I don't downplay the possibility of side effects, such articles as
this one - a not-so-secret report with unsubstantiated claims and
allegations - is reckless. Even if there are deaths from the vaccine, the
risk of a world without vaccines is far far far greater.



That does NOT mean much to the parents' of their DEAD children.

FACT: The public HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW!

FACT: Secrets are INDEED real, as well as sealed records of adverse effects.

Which leads us back to:

Every parent HAS a right to choose, without all the rhetoric of being
personally attacked for their choices.


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Old March 3rd 06, 04:51 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Secret Report Reveals 18 Child Deaths Following Vaccinations

In article .com,
PeterB wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...12/ixhome.html

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in
just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,
mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the
Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Excerpt:

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood
vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes
floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and
serious side effects could be much greater. Dr John Griffin, the former
editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities,
it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side
effects one in 10."

See link above for entire report.


Thanks for the article. The drug makers have been living off the dead
for a long time.


Killing off your customers is a stupid way to try to make a living.
Dead people do not buy products.

In any event, the article you're thanking Jan for is garbage. What a
misuse of statistics. Not that a mathematical illiterate like you
will be able to recognize this.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
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