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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 1, 10:31 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... ... I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem to be the case. When I was coaching kids on a church soccer team (the church also had a school) in a public league (the church fielded about 1 of 8 teams in various age-groups), the kids were really well behaved compared to the other teams I have coached in the same city (actually, the only other teams that I coached where the kids were as well behaved was in Harlem and young teams 1st and 2nd grade). Fear only works until the child becomes big and brave enough to fight back. Yet, I would think that some atheist families would score high. I know one family where the parents are not practicing, and the family is great. I don't practice religion in my home, either, and my children are well adjusted and fine with idea of taking care of their own choices. IOW, they don't need a belief system of any sort to understand and live their lives responsibly. Jeff |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 2, 8:34 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Uncle Vic" wrote in message ... One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet bloodied us up with this: Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows Children don't thrive, numbskull. Reproduction does. 1) No need to insult people. That is so childish. Your priorities, it seems, are mixed-up. 2) Thrive is the proper verb to use. Thrive means to make stead progress; to prosper as well as to grow vigorously, to flourish. Obviously, by grow vigorously, they mean as emotionally, not physically. The study is still a lot of horse****, which ever way one looks. But I think you understand this. |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
"Jeff" wrote in message newsKSZh.1007$J54.753@trnddc04... wrote in message oups.com... ... I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem to be the case. When I was coaching kids on a church soccer team (the church also had a school) in a public league (the church fielded about 1 of 8 teams in various age-groups), the kids were really well behaved compared to the other teams I have coached in the same city (actually, the only other teams that I coached where the kids were as well behaved was in Harlem and young teams 1st and 2nd grade). Yet, I would think that some atheist families would score high. I know one family where the parents are not practicing, and the family is great. I'm sure it varies, but in the case of two of my SIL's kids - who are Catholic, go to Catholic school and are making their first communion in two weeks - they're behavior isn't that great; in fact absolutely terrible in the case of the girl. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On Wed, 02 May 2007 12:34:47 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:
"Uncle Vic" wrote in message ... One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet bloodied us up with this: Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows Children don't thrive, numbskull. Reproduction does. The prisons are full of people from religious families, children from religious families are often drug addicts. Many sexually abused children come from religious families. 1) No need to insult people. That is so childish. 2) Thrive is the proper verb to use. Thrive means to make stead progress; to prosper as well as to grow vigorously, to flourish. Obviously, by grow vigorously, they mean as emotionally, not physically. Jeff -- Uncle Vic aa Atheist #2011 Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department. Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester. Member Duke Spanking Club. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
yet, how many children are killed "in the name of god."
"Sound of Trumpet" wrote in message oups.com... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823553/posts Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/25/07 | Gudrun Schultz Posted on 04/25/2007 4:18:36 PM PDT by wagglebee MISSISSIPPI, April 25, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Children with religious parents are better behaved and appear happier than children raised by parents without the influence of religious faith, a new study has shown. The first to examine the impact of religion on the development of young children, the study was authored by John Bartkowski, a sociologist with Mississippi State University. Bartkowski's team questioned the parents and teachers of more than 16,000 children, asking the adults to rate the children--most of them age six--on self- control, frequency of poor or unhappy behavior, and their ability to respect and work with peers. The results were compared to the parents' rate of attendence at church services, how frequently they talked about faith with their child, and whether or not there was arguing over religion in the home. The children of parents who regularly attended church services and talked with their child about religion were rated by both parents and teachers as showing better behavior, self-control skills and social skills than children from non-religious families. Children whose parents both attended church regulary were rated as having the best behavior and being the most well-adjusted. Bartkowski attributed the impact of parental faith on children to three factors, according to a special LiveScience report published April 24. The community support provided by a religious congregation could be a help to parents in improving their parenting skills and reinforcing the guidelines they offer their children, Bartkowski said. The children might be influenced by hearing those same guidelines expressed by others and "take more to heart the messages that they get in the home." As well, religious congregations tend to emphasize self-sacrificing, pro-family values, which could be "very, very important in shaping how parents relate to their kids, and then how children develop in response." The sacred meaning and importance given to the role of parents by religious denominations was a third factor identified by Bartkowski as having an impact on the well-being of children. Disputes and arguments in the home over religion, however, were correlated with increased problems for the children. "Religion can hurt if faith is a source of conflict or tension in the family," Bartkowski said. The study did not account for the possiblity that parents of better- behaved children would be more likely to attend a religious service, nor did it compare the impact different denominations may have on child behavior. "We really don't know if conservative Protestant kids are behaving better than Catholic kids or behaving better than mainline Protestant kids or Jewish kids," Bartkowski said. The study will be published in the journal Social Science Research. In a study examining the positive effects of religion on health, released last year, researchers found that regular church-goers tend to live longer. Published in the Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine, the study from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center found that people who went to church at least once a week lived on average an additional two to three years over those who did not attend church regularly. |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote:
Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality. Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources? Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it, without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend ones opinion. Hatter |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 2, 6:36 am, Attila wrote:
On 1 May 2007 17:54:36 -0700, " in One question must be asked about any 'survey' or report such as this: If the results had been found to be the exact opposite would the results have been published in the same way? -- Hehehe...yah sure they would. Hatter |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
"Hatter" wrote in message
ups.com... On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote: Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality. Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources? Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it, without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend ones opinion. My guess is that he actually believes it. |
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Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 3, 5:43 am, "Roger" wrote:
"Hatter" wrote in message ups.com... On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote: Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality. Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources? Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it, without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend ones opinion. My guess is that he actually believes it. Yes. That's my guess too. That goes hand in hand with wanting to **** atheists off and the want to feel morally superior, and the incapacity of intellectually defending one's self. Hatter |
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Troll: Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs
On May 2, 12:33 am, Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, *Anarcissie* bloodied us up with this: On May 1, 8:54 pm, " wrote: On May 1, 6:12 pm, Sound of Trumpet wrote: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823553/posts Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/25/07 | Gudrun Schultz I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem to be the case. You're responding to low-quality propaganda posted by a troll. Don't take it too seriously. OK, but the fun-factor is up there. Well, I am sorry these newsgroups get filled up with obvious responses to stupid and dishonest arguments. It is a very low form of fun. |
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