FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

"D" wrote in message
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:

Subject: FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

Says Mark Probert, well documented compulsive
pathological liar, drug company apologist, and
Usenet stalker.

Correct.

http://mental-health.press-world.com...d-strokes.html

company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of
$cientology

So you'd reject the datum "the sky is blue" if the
Scientologists said it? They're reporting the ruling

Kent

Am I incorrect. Mark was not referring to the Commission on Human
rights, he was
actually referring to that Scientology BS???

No, he was referring to Kriminal Kult of $cientology.

There is no such thing. He is noted for using that as a scape goat, along
with several
other *gang members* here on MHA.

What more...he LIED.

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.

Jan

Thank you. I must of quit reading halfway thru the rest of his thread.
Saw something else that made me initially jump into
the fray.

oyyy. Another one of those.
thank you

dboots

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Jan

Thank you. I must of quit reading halfway thru the rest of his thread.
Saw something else that made me initially jump into
the fray.

oyyy. Another one of those.
thank you

dboots

You are most welcome.

Jan

D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in news:rtw_g.162$6f4.30@trndny01:

Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in
news:JRu_g.138$gZ2.126@trndny07:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...nfirms-adhd-dr
ugs-cause-sudden-death-heart-attack-and-strokes.html


company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of $cientology
Is that anything like the Kriminal Kult of Republican$?
Far more insidious.
Let's review the facts:

--- the Kriminal Kult of Republican$ has lots more $$$, has elected a son and grandson of a nazi banker as
president, invaded Iraq to capture the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world, is currently growing (with
strongmen warlord partners) the biggest opium crop in Afghanistan the world has ever seen...

--- Kriminal Kult of $cientology has several top box office movie stars as members.

Is that about it?
I would phrase your list somewhat differently and include the
de-secularization of government.

However, the Kriminal Kult of $cientology is guilty of one evil worse
than all the evils of the Republicans:

They Steal Minds.
Mark

They they must be the arm of the gov't or fedrerally funded by the
gov't. To steal anything from the people.
Not in their case. They intimidated the IRS to grant them "church"
status although they had none of the parameters of a church.
Mark

But doesn't that status allow their organization to be less scrutinized
by any industry? Almost like it gives
the goverment more of a shield in that category.
The KK$ needs MORE scrutiny. Much more. They kill their members.

Mark

My god. You've gone from stealing their minds to killing their members
awful quick there.
Just reporting the facts. They are an evil organization.

Mark
Got a link to that or is this just one of those things you've heard
about or read about?

There are lots of links to the evils of $cientology. You can start with
Lisa MacPherson and ask her. Oops. Sorry, she is dead.

Just reading the current pages does not do justice to their evil. You
had to watch the story unfold after she died. How they played power
games with the authorities in Clearwater, and how they manipulated the
media.

You can also search on Xenu to learn more about them.

D wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
D wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in news:rtw_g.162$6f4.30@trndny01:

Weather From HELL!!! CO2 Storms!!! wrote:
Mark Probert wrote in
news:JRu_g.138$gZ2.126@trndny07:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...nfirms-adhd-dr
ugs-cause-sudden-death-heart-attack-and-strokes.html


company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of $cientology
Is that anything like the Kriminal Kult of Republican$?
Far more insidious.
Let's review the facts:

--- the Kriminal Kult of Republican$ has lots more $$$, has elected a son and grandson of a nazi banker as
president, invaded Iraq to capture the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world, is currently growing (with
strongmen warlord partners) the biggest opium crop in Afghanistan the world has ever seen...

--- Kriminal Kult of $cientology has several top box office movie stars as members.

Is that about it?
I would phrase your list somewhat differently and include the
de-secularization of government.

However, the Kriminal Kult of $cientology is guilty of one evil worse
than all the evils of the Republicans:

They Steal Minds.
Mark

They they must be the arm of the gov't or fedrerally funded by the
gov't. To steal anything from the people.
Not in their case. They intimidated the IRS to grant them "church"
status although they had none of the parameters of a church.
Mark

But doesn't that status allow their organization to be less scrutinized
by any industry? Almost like it gives
the goverment more of a shield in that category.
The KK$ needs MORE scrutiny. Much more. They kill their members.

Mark

My god. You've gone from stealing their minds to killing their members
awful quick there.
Just reporting the facts. They are an evil organization.
Mark
Got a link to that or is this just one of those things you've heard
about or read about?

dboots

Mark

I'm sorry you were referring to " the Commision on human rights along
the lines of that kkk stuff, right.

It is the Citizen Commission on Human Rights, a front group of the
$cientologists.

Do some research on your own.

Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:

Subject: FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything

Says Mark Probert, well documented compulsive
pathological liar, drug company apologist, and
Usenet stalker.

From you, that is a compliment.

As for stalking, do prove it.


http://mental-health.press-world.com...d-strokes.html

company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights

The front group for the Kriminal Kult of
$cientology

So you'd reject the datum "the sky is blue" if the
Scientologists said it?

Stupid comment # 4.

They're reporting the ruling
because it agrees with their church doctrine against
use of psychoactive drugs (in preference to their
own cultish mind manipulation methods), not
because what they are reporting is any less true
for them being the ones reporting it.

Untrue. They spin it their way.

You'll notice that not merely the US FDA, but also
the Australian medical community and some UN medical
body are all making the same reports.

So, we have the choice: listen to Mark Probert, who
only lies when he types or speaks, or listen to the
medically competent, MD-degreed people we the
peoples of the world pay to be our experts in the
matter under discussion.

You overdose on your asshole pills?

That choice seems like a no brainer,

Then you should have no trouble.

whatever ones
opinions on the Church of Scientology.

[The Church of Scientology is well known (see
the encyclopedia writeups on L. Ron Hubbard's
life, e.g.) to be the _really_ bad outcome of
science fiction author Ron Hubbard's drunken bar
bet with his equal-lush editor John Campbell
that Ron could start up a functioning church
(his second such exercise) based on a bunch of
science fiction drivel Ron proposed to write for
the purpose. Ron won the bet, those brainwashed
by the cult he founded lost then and still lose
today.]

xanthian

D wrote:
Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:

Subject: FDA Warning Does NOT Confirm Anything
Says Mark Probert, well documented compulsive
pathological liar, drug company apologist, and
Usenet stalker.

http://mental-health.press-world.com...d-strokes.html
company: Citizens Commission on Human Rights
The front group for the Kriminal Kult of
$cientology
So you'd reject the datum "the sky is blue" if the
Scientologists said it? They're reporting the ruling

Kent

Am I incorrect. Mark was not referring to the Commission on Human
rights, he was
actually referring to that Scientology BS???

I was referring the the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a front
group for the $cientologists.

Why ask Kent when you can ask me? Kent seems to have a vulcanized realty
check.

dboots
because it agrees with their church doctrine against
use of psychoactive drugs (in preference to their
own cultish mind manipulation methods), not
because what they are reporting is any less true
for them being the ones reporting it.

You'll notice that not merely the US FDA, but also
the Australian medical community and some UN medical
body are all making the same reports.

So, we have the choice: listen to Mark Probert, who
only lies when he types or speaks, or listen to the
medically competent, MD-degreed people we the
peoples of the world pay to be our experts in the
matter under discussion.

That choice seems like a no brainer, whatever ones
opinions on the Church of Scientology.

[The Church of Scientology is well known (see
the encyclopedia writeups on L. Ron Hubbard's
life, e.g.) to be the _really_ bad outcome of
science fiction author Ron Hubbard's drunken bar
bet with his equal-lush editor John Campbell
that Ron could start up a functioning church
(his second such exercise) based on a bunch of
science fiction drivel Ron proposed to write for
the purpose. Ron won the bet, those brainwashed
by the cult he founded lost then and still lose
today.]

xanthian

D wrote:
Jan

Thank you. I must of quit reading halfway thru the rest of his thread.
Saw something else that made me initially jump into
the fray.

oyyy. Another one of those.
thank you

Do note the following:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b9b26a7?hl=en&

This is a LIE! And a title started by Mark Probert.

After *I* [proclaimed to be dead in his lying UDP]-- posted

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.

This is a LIE. And a title stated by Mark Probert.

After *I* [proclaimed to be dead in his lying UDP]--posted:

http://mental-health.press-world.com...g-confirms-adh...


09/10/2006
FDA Warning Confirms ADHD Drugs Cause Sudden Death, Heart Attack and
Strokes
Despite vested interests in the mental health industry continuously
downplaying the documented risks of ADHD drugs, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) has finally agreed that the public has the right
to know the drugs' deadly risks.


The FDA has ordered that the labeling of ADHD drugs include a warning
that the drugs can cause suppression of growth, psychosis, aggression
and serious cardiovascular side effects. The warnings came in the wake
of an international grassroots movement of doctors, medical personnel,
human rights activists, and parents who have long fought for full
disclosure of the documented risks of the drugs by testifying before
state and federal legislators and drug regulatory agencies, as well as
speaking out in the national media.


In it's August 22 article, "FDA Orders Strong Warning on Stimulants,"
the New York Times reports that this recent warning "significantly
strengthen[s] the risk information already on these drugs. The
warnings state in part, 'Sudden deaths, strokes and myocardial
infarction have been reported in adults taking stimulant drugs at
usual doses.'" These warnings caution about an increased risk of
strokes and heart attacks and "come after scattered reports of
children dropping dead suddenly while taking the drugs."


Steven Nissen, president of the American College of Cardiology and
chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic is quoted in the
article: "It's a very strong warning. It's appropriately worded. It
basically lets physicians and patients know that these drugs to have
serious cardiovascular side effects."


In February, an FDA advisory committee strongly recommended that the
FDA require all ADHD drugs come with a black box warning, the FDA's
strictest warning, exposing the risk of drug-induced heart attack,
stroke and sudden death. In March, a different committee convened and
recommended additional warnings about psychological side effects.


Earlier this year, Australia launched an urgent investigation into the
safety of ADHD drugs following 400 adverse reactions involving
children as young as three. The United Nations' Committee on the
Rights of the Child reported in September 2005 that it was concerned
that ADHD and ADD "are being misdiagnosed and therefore
psycho-stimulant drugs are being over-prescribed, despite the growing
evidence of the harmful effects of these drugs." In the last year
alone, there have been ten international warnings that ADHD drugs can
cause suicide, psychosis, hallucinations and mania. Four of these
warnings specifically address the potentially fatal cardiovascular
risks of ADHD drugs.


12 international warnings have been issued on the dangers of
antidepressants, which include suicide, addiction, homicidal ideation,
liver damage and heart attacks. Five of these international warnings
on antidepressants warn about the risks to pregnant women and their
newborn babies. They show the risks of taking antidepressants during
pregnancy are drug dependence for the mother as well as birth defects,
heart malformation or a fatal lung condition in the newborn.


To see more about the deadly effects of psychiatric drugs prescribed
to millions of children, read the Report on the Escalating
International Warnings on Psychiatric Drugs, published by the
Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, a psychiatric watchdog group
established by the Church of Scientology.