NHS prescribing drugs 'when diet might help children with autism'

so the kid is only 5 now ??

how is that proof of anything working??

i am 40 have a brother and sisterr all had good home cooked food ,ate plenty
of oily fish

ok loads of crap as well i admit but i like it and cutting out anything has
made no differance

but bweing able to cut out things when you have ADHD you just dont have the
motivation and willpower to do so

at 5 its a bit differant anything gone wrong has beein found out early and
so early intervention whateve it is may work

at 5 i would not say its all over and my littel boy is ok now

he hasd a lot of problems ahead of him and he may not be able to cope well
with them you just dont know

yes some diet implementation if possible is good but its not a "cure all"
just as driugs are not

we need docs and specialists to look at multiple ways based on the person in
front of them instead of just spouting out there own firm bleeifs


my specilaist at least tellls me drugs may not work,but lets try them #
the affect on my moods and indeed less impulsive binge eating is amazing and
no change in foods have had such an affect

no meltdowns for 6 weeks or more is incredible from someone who can get
angry on a bus and threaten to take it over as i didd last summer,one of
many similar things


"Roman Bystrianyk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Jan Drew wrote:

While there is wide debate about the causes and treatment of autism and
ADHD, some research has suggested that dietary interventions such as
removing milk and wheat, topping up nutrients or using fish oil
supplements
can help in some cases.


This may be of interest to you. Enjoy your day.

Roman


Roman Bystrianyk, "Reversing autism and seizures - Jonathan's
story", Health Sentinel, November 20, 2006,

When Jonathan was four years old it was apparent that he wasn't quite
the way a four-year-old should be. He didn't focus and was not very
verbal. He often got angry and punched his own head and physically
attacked others. He didn't sing. He just didn't seem normal.

His parents, Denise and Jose, took their son to the pediatrician. After
several visits he was diagnosed with pervasive developmental disorder
(PDD) and more specifically with autism. PDD refers to a group of
disorders characterized by delays in the development of socialization
and communication skills.

After his diagnosis, a pediatric neurologist saw Jonathan and performed
and EEG. An EEG or electroencephalogram is a test to detect
abnormalities in the electrical activity of the brain. Although there
were no petit mal or grand mal seizures detected, as you would see in
epilepsy, there was clear evidence of brain seizures.

As a result of those tests he was taken to a psychiatrist who
prescribed Depakote, which is a medication used to control seizures and
convulsions. The Depakote was too strong for Jonathan - because he
would lose his balance and also "space out" - so he was switched
to Topamax, which he seemed to tolerate better. He was also prescribed
Strattera because of his violent outbursts.

In October of 2005, Denise happened across a radio program in New York
City on 91.5 FM WNYE. The program was the Gary Null show and that day
Dr. Null was reading a news story titled "Stopping epileptic seizures
using omega-3, vitamin E, diet and more". Denise found it very
interesting and exciting, and when she got home she found the article
on the Internet and read it.

Absorbing as much of the information as she could, she decided that she
wanted a change for her son. She found the scientific information
referenced in the article, "absolutely amazing", and she was
determined to try a natural approach. On her own she began giving her
son supplements that were discussed in the article. She started him on
1000 mg of omega-3, 400 IUs of vitamin E, 500 mg L-Carnosine, 500 mg
L-Glutamine, selenium, Vitamin C, zinc, and B-complex.

She made changes in his diet, eliminating dairy and wheat and all
processed food, which Jonathan frequently ate. "Now that I look back
at it he had an awful diet." She switched to all organic food and
began using filtered water. She also started reducing the amount of
Jonathan's medication.

Within two weeks Jonathan started showing some amazing changes. Denise
noticed improved eye contact and increased "clarity". He suddenly
became more focused and articulate. He had more patience playing games
and wasn't as angry. Jonathan also began singing, something that he
never really did before. Denise was happy and surprised, "He's
actually singing! Oh my God he's singing!"

Each week Jonathan improved. They got letters from school asking what
has changed at home because Jonathan was now doing "wonderful". He
became more focused and patient.

She went back to her pediatrician to let him know that she was trying a
natural approach and was reducing the medications Jonathan was taking.
"I was so sorry I did". The doctor became very angry and yelled,
"Your son needs to be on Ritalin. He needs to be on stronger
medication than he's already on what are you thinking about cutting
his medications in half?" Denise was stunned by the pediatrician's
belittling attack and didn't go back to see this pediatrician and
instead switched to a more understanding pediatrician.

In November they went to see Dr. Marty Feldman, who added a brain
supporting powder that Denise adds to soymilk to make a shake for
Jonathan for breakfast. He also recommended a product called Ultra
Clear to help detoxify, vitamin B-12, and increased the omega-3 fatty
acids.

In December, 2 months after the start of the protocol, she went back to
the pediatric neurologist that had done the original EEG on Jonathan.
She explained that she hadn't been given Jonathan all the prescribed
medication and that she felt he should be retested to see if he is
having any brain seizures. They performed the EEG again and this time
Jonathan had "no clinical evidence of seizures".

Denise asked the doctor, "So is there any reason for him to be on any
medications to control seizures?" The pediatric neurologist replied,
"No. He doesn't need them." The neurologist asked what she was
doing and Denise let her know of the protocol she had put Jonathan on.
She was very supportive, "Great! Keep doing what you're doing."

Denise made an appointment with a new pediatrician and informed him
that Jonathan was off all his original medications. The new
pediatrician made a suggestion that Jonathan get plenty of physical
exercise.

"He rides his bicycle and scooter weather permitting. In the winter
the family goes ice-skating twice a week. He often plays baseball with
his Dad and he does nightly yoga with the family. In school Jonathan
has Adaptive Physical education daily."

Today, a little over 1 year from the start of a journey, Jonathan is a
normal and happy boy. His behavior is excellent and he has even been
awarded "Student of the Week" numerous times in his class. "There
are no problems with his behavior. None. He doesn't hit other
children - he's very kind to them. He compliments his teachers.
He's a model student. Everybody in their family is shocked at the
amazing changes."

For more information please contact Denise at or
Roman at

REFERENCE: Stopping epileptic seizures using omega-3, vitamin E, diet,
and more -
http://www.healthsentinel.com/org_ne...st_item&id=058

motivation plays a big part as well epsecially is adhd type


its ok even if i want to do something i satill find it very difficult ot
avctually sdo it

regards paul
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe

I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry

what the dopamine has done in ritalin is changing my desires and reactions
my motviation to starrt a task is as hard as ever

my concentartion when started is up,my anxiety and moods better ,my memeory
only very slight improvemnt

nothing bad to report apart from iam very much more of being right all the
time and saying so even on myt own radio grruops and in doing so its started
a bit of a war.

but this war is not with me shouting and swearing and telling people to ff
off like in past so even thats differant

just me laboring the point more and more and disagreeing so the aspienees
has come out even more it seems


regards paul
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe

I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry

On 10 Jan 2007 09:03:56 -0800, "TC" wrote:


wrote:
Aren't doctors in the same place as parents? The doctors are not doing
the science that would confirm nutritional claims nor is it their
responsibility to sort out the possible beneficial from the many snake
oil marketers.

That is the responsibility of the FDA and the NIHs. But since their
funding for research
primarily comes from the food and pharma industries, their focus is to
approve drugs and
make it easy for the food and pharma industries to make money. And
concentrating
on healthy real foods is not conducive to selling crap manufactured
nutritionally-deficient
foods.

For them it is a matter of it is the devil known rather
then the devil of non-science. Read this bit and consider:

Non-science? Like the greater than 70% of research that is marketting
and not science?

You food industry cultists are so funny.

You meat industry shills are so funny :=(

If this apparent over-reaction is justirfied in the US, then it is
surely the fault of the US electorate for electing such incompetent
managers of your community affairs. A good manager is a good manager,
no matter what her origins. jack

that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.

--
"Being *able* to do something does not automatically imply that it is easy
or undemanding." - Terry
ASA FAQ: http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe

I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Chris wrote:
that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.

When we first embarked on our efforts to deal with our son's AD/HD, we
visited a nutritionist we carefully selected and was recommended by our
Ped.

We spent an hour completing page after page of questions about eating
habits, etc. The nutritionist, reviewed our answers, and merely said
that his diet was well balanced, with good sources of protein (fresh
fish (like caught the same day, in season), chicken, rarely read meat),
vitamins (lots of veggies, fruits, etc.), and carbs (pasta and whole
grain rice).

The only suggestion made was that he could eat bread instead of putting
nearly everything like peanut butter on unsalted saltines, or, just cut
down on snacking on the unsalted saltines.

Since then, everyone who has told me that his AD/HD is definitively
caused by diet has merely made me laugh.



--
"Being *able* to do something does not automatically imply that it is easy
or undemanding." - Terry
ASA FAQ: http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe
I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:zhcqh.419$Ld.168@trndny08...
Chris wrote:
that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.

When we first embarked on our efforts to deal with our son's AD/HD, we
visited a nutritionist we carefully selected and was recommended by our
Ped.

We spent an hour completing page after page of questions about eating
habits, etc. The nutritionist, reviewed our answers, and merely said that
his diet was well balanced, with good sources of protein (fresh fish (like
caught the same day, in season), chicken, rarely read meat), vitamins
(lots of veggies, fruits, etc.), and carbs (pasta and whole grain rice).

The only suggestion made was that he could eat bread instead of putting
nearly everything like peanut butter on unsalted saltines, or, just cut
down on snacking on the unsalted saltines.

Since then, everyone who has told me that his AD/HD is definitively caused
by diet has merely made me laugh.

Diet Makes an Impact on ADHD

http://www.drkoop.com/PrinterFriendly/93/8011610.html

Fish Oil Alternative Treatment To Ritalin For ADHD-Study

http://www.bestsyndication.com/2005/...H/123005-adhd_...

Diet Changes, medications help students with ADHD

http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/98/219/01_3.html

[no longer available, but here is what was stated].

Diet changes, medications help students with ADHD


By Laura Ory
Arizona Daily Wildcat
Monday, November 14, 2005


Students concerned about the side effects of their attention-deficit
hyperactivity disorder medications may want to explore alternative
treatments like changing their diets, a pediatrician said Thursday.


Dr. Sandy Newmark, a pediatric integrative medicine specialist,
presented information about alternative methods to dealing with ADHD as part
of the SALT Center Speaker Series.


Newmark said there is a lot of "hysteria" surrounding the use and
misuse of ADHD medications, including Ritalin.


"They're not as good or as bad as people say," Newmark said.


Although ADHD medications may cause a decrease in appetite, they are
not damaging to the liver, kidneys or brain as some may claim, and they are
not addictive, Newmark said.


Complaints about ADHD medications causing a loss in creativity or a
change in a patient's attitude are worrisome, Newmark said, and therefore
such drugs should not be the first and only treatment for attention-deficit
patients.


Other treatments include removing food coloring, preservatives,
processed sugars and flour from the diet and replacing them with more
protein, Newmark said.


These methods, along with adding omega-3, an essential fatty acid, and
zinc to the diet, have had a profound impact on reducing ADHD symptoms,
Newmark said.


Patty Zeigler, a systems and industrial engineering business manager
at the UA, said she decided to remove all preservatives, food coloring and
processed foods from her son's diet when he was diagnosed as "hyperactive"
about 30 years ago.


Zeigler said her son's kindergarten teacher recommended he take
medication but she decided to try changing his diet first.


"Three months later the teacher raved about what a difference the
medication made," Zeigler said. "I didn't tell her he wasn't on it."


Homeopathy, which is based on taking smaller doses of a drug rather
than the suggested amount, and cranio-sacral therapy, which uses touch to
improve the functioning of the central nervous system, are other alternative
methods for treating ADHD, Newmark said.


Ashley Klein, a learning specialist at the SALT Center, said she
wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until she was a sophomore in college.


ADHD medications have helped Klein, but she believes that her diet and
exercise habits still have an effect on her symptoms.


"Something that works for one person, may not work for others," said
Klein, who works with students with ADHD and learning disabilities. "I do
recommend that they try different approaches, but they should also talk to
their doctor."


New Progam Promises Drug-Free ADHD Solution

http://cbs4boston.com/specialreports...031192527.html

Hospital Study Proves Ancient Herbs Helpful In ADD-ADHD

http://openpr.com/drucken/?id=1661

Fix the diagnosis not the children

http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=274972006

Deadly side-effects earn ADHD drugs warning

http://tinyurl.com/b2r6l

Foods and additives are common causes of the attention deficit hyperactive
disorder in children.


Boris M, Mandel FS.


North Shore Hospital-Cornell Medical Center, Manhasset, New York.


The attention deficit hyperactive disorder (ADHD) is a neurophysiologic
problem that is detrimental to children and their parents. Despite previous
studies on the role of foods, preservatives and artificial colorings in ADHD
this issue remains controversial. This investigation evaluated 26 children
who meet the criteria for ADHD. Treatment with a multiple item elimination
diet showed 19 children (73%) responded favorably, P .001. On open
challenge, all 19 children reacted to many foods, dyes, and/or
preservatives. A double-blind placebo controlled food challenge (DBPCFC) was
completed in 16 children. There was a significant improvement on placebo
days compared with challenge days (P = .003). Atopic children with ADHD had
a significantly higher response rate than the nonatopic group. This study
demonstrates a beneficial effect of eliminating reactive foods and
artificial colors in children with ADHD. Dietary factors may play a
significant role in the etiology of the majority of children with ADHD.


http://tinyurl.com/c2lez


The role of diet and behaviour in childhood.


Breakey J.


This short review summarizes the most important research, particularly that
from 1985 to 1995, on the relationship between diet and behaviour. Relevant
studies particularly those using double-blind placebo controlled food
challenge methodology were selected, and are presented within a historical
context. Summary tables of the early development of concepts and later
pertinent studies are provided. The research has shown that diet definitely
affects some children. Rather than becoming simpler the issue has become
demonstrably more complex. The range of suspect food items has broadened,
and some non-food items are relevant. Symptoms which may change include
those seen in attention deficit disorder (ADD) and attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), sleep problems and physical symptoms, with
later research emphasizing particularly changes in mood. The reports also
show the range of individual differences both in the food substances
producing reactions and in the areas of change.


http://tinyurl.com/cke6f


Controlled trial of cumulative behavioural effects of a common bread
preservative.


Dengate S, Ruben A.





OBJECTIVE: Many anecdotes and one scientific report describe cumulative
behavioural effects of bread preservative on children. METHODOLOGY:
Twenty-seven children, whose behaviour improved significantly on the Royal
Prince Alfred Hospital diet, which excludes food additives, natural
salicylates, amines and glutamates, were challenged with calcium propionate
(preservative code 282) or placebo through daily bread in a double-blind
placebo-controlled crossover trial. RESULTS: Due to four placebo responders,
there was no significant difference by ANOVA of weighted placebo and
challenge Rowe Behaviour Rating Inventory means, but a statistically
significant difference existed in the proportion of children whose
behaviours 'worsened' with challenge (52%), compared to the proportion whose
behaviour 'improved' with challenge (19%), relative to placebo (95%
confidence intervals 14-60%). CONCLUSIONS: Irritability, restlessness,
inattention and sleep disturbance in some children may be caused by a
preservative in healthy foods consumed daily. Minimizing the concentrations
added to processed foods would reduce adverse reactions. Testing for
behavioural toxicity should be included in food additive safety evaluation.


http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...=20060316-0911...


Ped Med: The skinny on ADHD contributors
By LIDIA WASOWICZ
UPI Senior Science Writer


SAN FRANCISCO, March 17 (UPI) -- Nutritionists are convinced that, just like
everyone else, children with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder are
what they eat.


Specifically, the specialists have their eye on so-called omega-3 fatty
acids as playing some role in the condition that, in general, is marked by
trouble keeping still, difficulty in maintaining attention, propensity
toward acting impulsively or some combination of the three.


Omega-3 fatty acids are plentiful in cold-water fish, such as salmon,
herring, tuna, clams, crab, cod, flounder, sole, halibut, catfish, trout and
shrimp. They also abound in nuts; soybeans; walnut, olive and flaxseed oil;
seeds; whole grains and dark leafy greens.


The fatty acids comprise a hefty component of the brain, which weighs in at
about 60-percent fat.


The compounds, which studies indicate are essential for forming and
maintaining the dopamine system, have been found in short supply in some,
though not all, children diagnosed with ADHD.


Many researchers see ADHD as a hereditary imbalance of brain chemicals, such
as dopamine -- which regulates movement, emotion, motivation and sensations
of pleasure.


That view is strongly contested by critics who point to a dearth of physical
evidence for such a notion.


Whatever their connection to the "feel-good" chemical in the brain, the
omega-3 fatty acids appear to have an impact on a child's behavior,
portending problems in youngsters who don't have enough of the compounds.


As one example, a recent Duke University study of 96 boys ages 6 to 12
indicated those with low blood levels of omega-3 fatty acids face increased
risk of ADHD-like behavior, learning and health challenges.


There is also some evidence the compounds may play a benevolent role in the
production of myelin, a protective insulation that coats the brain's
internal wiring,


A novel model of human brain development and degeneration proposed by
researchers at the University of California, Los Angeles implicates
disruption of myelin production in such childhood developmental disorders as
autism and ADHD.


From a review of scanned and autopsied brain tissue, the investigators
unraveled the role of myelin in these conditions.


Laden with more cholesterol than any other brain component, the sheet of fat
surrounds the spindly nerve-cell extensions called axons, permitting them to
carry messages to their neighbors in the safety and security of their armor.


The thicker and heavier the cells' coat, the faster and more effective their
communication, said team leader Dr. George Bartzokis, professor of neurology
at the David Geffen School of Medicine and director of the UCLA Memory
Disorders and Alzheimer's Disease Clinic and the Clinical Core of the UCLA
Alzheimer's Disease Research Center.


The pioneering neuroscientist discovered that myelin production continues
unabated throughout the first four decades of life before peaking and
plummeting at age 45. His latest research portrays the protective shield as
the neural system's Achilles' heel, vulnerable to a host of environmental
assaults.


"Myelination, a process uniquely elaborated in humans, arguably is the most
important and most vulnerable process of brain development as we mature and
age," Bartzokis said.


Without adequate insulation, cells won't connect properly, he has found in a
series of experiments that showed a breakdown in the sheath can expose the
naked wiring beneath and open the gates to an array of neurological and
behavioral problems.


Bartzokis's theory holds that humans "myelinate" different circuits at
various points in life, which could explain the sizeable differences between
brain diseases of the young and old.


An early disruption of the process, for instance, may throw for a loop the
development of the basic circuits that govern language and social
communication, two key impairments in autism.


A glitch during the early school years could hamper the ability to process
information efficiently and effectively, leading to deficits in attention
that characterize ADHD. Later in life, the result of a malfunction could be
Alzheimer's disease.


To Bartzokis, the human brain is akin to high-speed Internet.


"The speed, quality and bandwidth of the connections determine the brain's
ability to process information, and all these depend in large part on the
insulation that coats the brain's connecting wires," he said.


The findings may explain why developmental disorders leave no calling card
in the brain. "There's no dead anything on autopsy," Bartzokis said. "Those
brain connections just never developed normally."


Bartzokis's studies also show female brains make better myelin, which could
explain why boys are at much greater risk for autism, ADHD and other
problems.


"On the positive side, there are some interesting things to consider,"
Bartzokis said. "For example, essential fatty acids are fats that are
necessary for membrane production, and myelin is essentially pure membrane."


"They are called 'essential' because the human body cannot produce them,
and, therefore, they are like 'vitamins' -- they need to come from a good
diet," he added. "Thus, nutrition is very important because the brain is
very busy trying to build the myelin sheaths."


Still, researchers don't have the skinny on the exact relationship between
the fats and ADHD.


Although alternative medicine practitioners report some success in
ameliorating symptoms with the use of fatty acid, mineral, vitamin B and
other supplements, none of these has been embraced as standard therapy.


Conventional and complementary practices also part ways on the role, and
remedial potential, of food additives, sugar or allergens. All of these
remain controversial, having failed to withstand rigorous scientific
scrutiny, according to a compilation of ADHD data by Dr. Peter Jensen,
director of the Center for the Advancement of Children's Mental Health at
Columbia University.


Next: Seeking environmental clues to ADHD.


(Editors' Note: This series on ADHD is based on a review of hundreds of
reports and a survey of more than 200 specialists.)

Pill-Popping Doesn't ADHD Up

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001035,00.html


Pill-popping doesn't ADHD up


April 01, 2006


IS Ritalin the new corporal punishment? Are the types of children who were
getting the strap when I was at school 25 years ago, now being given drugs
instead?


I ask because we seem to have a frightening number of children diagnosed
with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).


And the only way to "discipline" them is to dope them up.


Prescriptions for Ritalin increased tenfold after it was listed on the
Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme last August, reducing the cost from $49 to
$29.50 or $4.70 for concession card holders.


More than 5800 prescriptions were written for Ritalin in January this year,
compared with 523 last August. Prescriptions for the other favoured ADHD
drug, Dexamphetamine, jumped from 96,000 a year to 232,000 in the 10 years
to 2004-05.


This week we learned that children as young as five have suffered strokes,
heart attacks, hallucinations and convulsions after being administed these
drugs.


Almost 400 serious adverse reactions have been reported to the Therapeutic
Goods Administration.


On Thursday, 14 Queensland teenagers overdosed on Ritalin after a
13-year-old girl is believed to have taken the pills to school to share with
her friends. The Year 9 students fell ill suffering from nausea and
increased heart rates and were taken to hospital. They were released by
early evening.


The long-term side-effects of the prolonged use of such drugs are only part
of the problem. Also disturbing is the message pill-popping sends to
children.


We have long been an adult nation of pill-poppers. Drugs soothe every modern
condition.


ADHD has become the defence of choice in our court system.


If someone's feeling down, you don't ask why; you give them Prozac. If
someone's sexually dysfunctional, they take Viagra. If you can't quit
smoking, there's Zyban.


And now, if your three-year-old is hyperactive, you don't look at their
junk-food diet or discipline.


Instead, you give them Ritalin or Dexamphetamine. When the going gets tough,
kids get drugged because it is the easiest solution for some parents. They
don't want to correct difficult or different behaviour.


I am sure there were children wrongly dismissed as belligerent when I was
school, who in hindsight may have had disorders that were left untreated.
But could there really be enough today to justify 5800 scripts written in
one month? Mass medication has become the cop-out solution. And the next
generation will know no other way to cope. We may even be "medicating-out"
the quirks of genius not easily recognised in childhood.


Imagine the world without the high energies of Leonardo da Vinci, Picasso
and Einstein . . . thought by some to have ADHD symptoms.


Instead, we will have adults whose earliest memories will be of taking
pills; what the rest of us rarely had to do until old age kicked in.


Who comes after Generation Y? Generation Z of course. For the generation of
zombies who will be used to taking a pill from age of three.

http://diet-studies.com/adhd.html

Too many kids diagnosed with ADHD

http://www.king5.com/health/stories/....397cde41.html

NHS prescribing drugs 'when diet might help children with autism'

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/her....1107588.0.nhs...

A Review of ADHD Treatments

http://www.market-day.net/article_30...ew-of-ADHD-Tre...


A Review of ADHD Treatments


If you have a child who has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or
ADHD for short, you have at your disposal a number of effective treatments
that you can employ. The most common ADHD treatments usually involve as
their biggest part the use of drugs like Ritalin or Dexedrine.
These drugs manipulate the balance of receptors in the brain so that the
individual finds it easier to concentrate. In addition the ADHD treatments
should involve the use of some counseling. Teaching effective study skills
can also go a long way in combating ADHD.


The problem is that many ADHD treatments address the physiological to the
detriment of the other causes of the disorder. This is a problem, because
ADHD children need assistance in properly warming strategies and creating
scenarios in which they can be successful in their endeavors. So as an
addendum to the drugs, some counseling in study skills and habits are a
necessity for treating the disorder properly. It is not enough just to
medicate as an ADHD treatment, because this only will solve half of the
problem.


Too many times we have seen that everyone's answer to treatment is to just
throw medication at it. This is so wrong in such a great disservice. So many
kids just get ADHD treatments by being dosed with medication that there has
recently been a bit of a backlash. Many other kinds of ADHD treatments have
come out recently and received support instead of the drugging.


Some people believe that a well balanced diet itself can form one of the
most effective ADHD treatments. According to them, eating the right foods
and eliminating all junk food, sugar, and highly processed or caffeinated
stuff can form the best of ADHD treatments, without the side effects of the
drugs. Many ADD and ADHD kids hate the drugs that they are on, and complain
that they make them feel like zombies. If drug free ADHD treatment works,
why not switch?


I even know of some adults that takes the drug is to help them concentrate
better in everyday life. They can actually become addicted to these drugs in
and of stealing them from the person that they were prescribed to. And
usually that's their children, how sad is that?


Other people recommend meditation techniques as ADHD treatments. They say
that the best way to treat ADHD is to take advantage of the mind's natural
flexibility and to tap into its natural powers of relaxation and healing.
These new age practitioners believe that daily meditation, focus,
relaxation, and an end to the anxiety that plagues ADHD kids can be
achieved, these experts claim. I don't have a problem with trying this as
long as it's not to the detriment of the patient.


I don't think that there is one right way to go in there for everything else
is wrong. That to me is rather narrowminded. Although meditation may not be
one of the most popular of ADHD treatments, it should be considered.
Meditation is good for so many things - concentration, calm, an end to
anxiety, that there is no reason to believe that it couldn't help with ADHD
treatments as well.


Morgan Hamilton offers his findings and insights regarding the world of
health. You can get interesting information here at
http://www.healthandmedicineinfo.com...nformation/hea...


Wheat Sensitivities May Be The Culprit In Many Ailments

http://www.mediasyndicate.com/module...me=News&file=a...

Food for thought

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10416569

Is ADHD a Real Disease?

Via Google Alert: ADHD


http://americandaily.com/article/12001

Ped Med: The Skinny on ADHD Contributors

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...=20060316-0911...

The preservative-free diet

http://seven.com.au/todaytonight/story/?id=28786


Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs- Study

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...document_id=20...

Pill is not the 'miracle diet' that many hope for

http://www.purdueexponent.org/index....&story_id=1813



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or undemanding." - Terry
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"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe
I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry

I wasn't thinking about seeing a nutritionist to help autism. More to help
with basic eating issues.

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or undemanding." - Terry
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:zhcqh.419$Ld.168@trndny08...
Chris wrote:
that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.

When we first embarked on our efforts to deal with our son's AD/HD, we
visited a nutritionist we carefully selected and was recommended by our
Ped.

We spent an hour completing page after page of questions about eating
habits, etc. The nutritionist, reviewed our answers, and merely said
that his diet was well balanced, with good sources of protein (fresh
fish (like caught the same day, in season), chicken, rarely read meat),
vitamins (lots of veggies, fruits, etc.), and carbs (pasta and whole
grain rice).

The only suggestion made was that he could eat bread instead of putting
nearly everything like peanut butter on unsalted saltines, or, just cut
down on snacking on the unsalted saltines.

Since then, everyone who has told me that his AD/HD is definitively
caused by diet has merely made me laugh.



--
"Being *able* to do something does not automatically imply that it is
easy
or undemanding." - Terry
ASA FAQ: http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that
up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe
I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry






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Mark Probert wrote:
Chris wrote:
that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.

When we first embarked on our efforts to deal with our son's AD/HD, we
visited a nutritionist we carefully selected and was recommended by our
Ped.

We spent an hour completing page after page of questions about eating
habits, etc. The nutritionist, reviewed our answers, and merely said
that his diet was well balanced, with good sources of protein (fresh
fish (like caught the same day, in season), chicken, rarely read meat),
vitamins (lots of veggies, fruits, etc.), and carbs (pasta and whole
grain rice).

The only suggestion made was that he could eat bread instead of putting
nearly everything like peanut butter on unsalted saltines, or, just cut
down on snacking on the unsalted saltines.

Since then, everyone who has told me that his AD/HD is definitively
caused by diet has merely made me laugh.

For the illiterate readers, note that I said *caused* by diet. In this
situation, diet was good and proper.

N O T

C A U S E D

Chris wrote:
I wasn't thinking about seeing a nutritionist to help autism. More to help
with basic eating issues.

As an adult, good idea. For a child with disabilities like Autism and
AD/HD, possibly not too practical, depending on how cooperative the
child is, and what changes have to be made.


--
"Being *able* to do something does not automatically imply that it is easy
or undemanding." - Terry
ASA FAQ: http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:zhcqh.419$Ld.168@trndny08...
Chris wrote:
that's why I've never gone to a nutrtionist although at it's been
recommended to me.
When we first embarked on our efforts to deal with our son's AD/HD, we
visited a nutritionist we carefully selected and was recommended by our
Ped.

We spent an hour completing page after page of questions about eating
habits, etc. The nutritionist, reviewed our answers, and merely said
that his diet was well balanced, with good sources of protein (fresh
fish (like caught the same day, in season), chicken, rarely read meat),
vitamins (lots of veggies, fruits, etc.), and carbs (pasta and whole
grain rice).

The only suggestion made was that he could eat bread instead of putting
nearly everything like peanut butter on unsalted saltines, or, just cut
down on snacking on the unsalted saltines.

Since then, everyone who has told me that his AD/HD is definitively
caused by diet has merely made me laugh.



--
"Being *able* to do something does not automatically imply that it is
easy
or undemanding." - Terry
ASA FAQ: http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Terry Jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:52:06 GMT, "PromaBoss"
wrote:

just telling us to eat better is no good at all ,ok if you back that
up
witn
dieticians and so on helping every day of every week then maybe
I saw three or four dieticians (as a result of staffing problems). The
problem was, their basic assumption seemed to be that if you weren't
eating right, then it *must* be the result of ignorance and / or lack
of "motivation".

In fact I live alone, on a low income, and have problems with shopping
(due to disabilities). And quite frankly their suggested menus were
totally unrealistic for someone in my position. My mother who's a
widowed pensioner (though still able to do her own shopping) thought
much the same about their applicability to her.

They wanted to tell me *what*, but were quite unable to tell me *how*.

Unfortunately their ideas of healthy eating tend to be time consuming,
labour intensive (or expensive if bought pre-prepared) and to be based
on frequent shopping and / or a *large* freezer.

(And before anyone suggests it - home delivery would add about 25%
onto my shopping bill - I wouldn't get through enough fresh food &
can't store enough frozen to qualify for free delivery).

Basically - going by their suggested menus - the UK NHS dieticians
don't seem to have considered the problems of single people on a low
incomes (even though many pensioners fall into this category, and may
also have mobility of other problems which affect shopping or food
preparation).

--

Terry