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  #21  
Old June 18th 07, 12:36 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On May 20, 4:02 am, NL wrote:
Welches wrote:
I also find it irritating when I get "I'll do these jobs for you so later we
can..." when he wouldn't do the jobs otherwise. I then feel pressurised into
agreeing when sometimes I've earmarked that evening for something else.
Debbie


Excuse me, but does he sometimes leave money on your bedside table, too?

Honestly, I've been reading through this thread and I just can't believe
how little self respect some of you have left! Why are you putting up
with men who treat you like servants and hookers? Yes, so they bring
home the money, or the majority of the money, but you're doing the
housework and you're raising the kids. Why are you willingly taking the
short end of the stick? Just because they're paying most of the bills
doesn't mean they get to be "more equal" than you. It's a marriage, a
relationship, not a bussines deal. If they wanted a housemaid that also
gives them a blowjob they should maybe put an ad in a paper that says so.

You're going to doctors, you're popping anti depressants, and all
because your _partner_ is treating you like he owns you? Couples therapy
might be a good idea in some cases, stand up for yourselves!

Really, I'm a single mom


I can see why you are a single mom. The brain rot of feminism has left
you single and thinking that a woman who cares and loves her husband
is a whore and maid.
It's a shame that the real people who suffer are the ******* children
you brought into this world.

Regards...

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Old June 18th 07, 06:15 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On Jun 17, 3:59 pm, " wrote:
When my friends tell me their lack of sex because of the baby, they
usually blame their wives. Which is true, because it's not difficult
to have sex... snip


Well, in my case, I had three internal tears and an episiotomy. When
the midwife was stitching me up, I heard her chortling to the nurse:
"I'm doing such a great job!! She's just like she was before!!"
Well, if she meant when I was 14, then yes, I'm just like before.
Even my OB said that I'm really tight now -- much more so than any of
her other patients have been. And let me tell you, it is *not* easy
to have sex. I'm hoping someone (besides agsf) will tell me that it
gets better, since at the moment, it just hurts. And not because of
unhealed scars or anything.

Em
mama to Micah, 11/14/04; Shiloh, 4/22/07

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Old June 18th 07, 06:39 PM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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ps.com...
And let me tell you, it is *not* easy
to have sex. I'm hoping someone (besides agsf) will tell me that it
gets better, since at the moment, it just hurts. And not because of
unhealed scars or anything.

Em
mama to Micah, 11/14/04; Shiloh, 4/22/07


It did get better for me but it was about 9-10mos out. Liberal amounts of
lubricant helps. Astroglide is less goopy then most.


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Nikki, mama to
Hunter 4/99
Luke 4/01
Brock 4/06
Ben 4/06


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Old June 21st 07, 12:03 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On Jun 17, 10:15 pm, wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:59 pm, " wrote:

When my friends tell me their lack of sex because of the baby, they
usually blame their wives. Which is true, because it's not difficult
to have sex... snip


Well, in my case, I had three internal tears and an episiotomy. When
the midwife was stitching me up, I heard her chortling to the nurse:
"I'm doing such a great job!! She's just like she was before!!"
Well, if she meant when I was 14, then yes, I'm just like before.
Even my OB said that I'm really tight now -- much more so than any of
her other patients have been. And let me tell you, it is *not* easy
to have sex. I'm hoping someone (besides agsf) will tell me that it
gets better, since at the moment, it just hurts. And not because of
unhealed scars or anything.

Em
mama to Micah, 11/14/04; Shiloh, 4/22/07


We're not hard (no pun intended) to please. There is more to it than
just straight sex.

Regards...

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Old June 21st 07, 12:24 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On Jun 17, 9:50 pm, NL wrote:
wrote:
On May 20, 4:02 am, NL wrote:
I can see why you are a single mom. The brain rot of feminism has left
you single and thinking that a woman who cares and loves her husband
is a whore and maid.
It's a shame that the real people who suffer are the ******* children
you brought into this world.


Regards...


Yeah, Regards? What kind?


You decide.

You really think it's better to be in a
relationship where you're not treated as an equal is better than staying
single and sane?


Are you implying that the woman who is concerned about her husband's
sexual needs due to her inability to perform sex is somehow unequal?
I'll take it even a step further, do you think women were unequal in a
patriarchal society? Women were always placed on a pedestal and
treated better than men. A woman's worth was more than a man's worth.
We men were/are second class citizens.

Men and women have different, but equal roles in a marriage. Until
recently, I worked and my wife stayed home. Should I have felt like a
personal ATM machine while she felt like a whore and a maid?

My children are not ******* children,


Your children lack the love and strength that only an active father in
a two parent household can give. You, probably with your false
thinking, denied your kids that opportunity.

and I don't think
you're one who can judge that anyway.


But I can, as you can judge Anna as being a whore and me as a Troll.

You don't know a thing about my life, so please, get a grip and troll off.


You should take your own advice, it could have saved your marriage
(assuming you were not just a whore).

cu
nicole


Regards...

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Old June 21st 07, 01:47 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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schrieb:
On Jun 17, 9:50 pm, NL wrote:
wrote:
On May 20, 4:02 am, NL wrote:
I can see why you are a single mom. The brain rot of feminism has left
you single and thinking that a woman who cares and loves her husband
is a whore and maid.
It's a shame that the real people who suffer are the ******* children
you brought into this world.
Regards...

Yeah, Regards? What kind?


You decide.

You really think it's better to be in a
relationship where you're not treated as an equal is better than staying
single and sane?


Are you implying that the woman who is concerned about her husband's
sexual needs due to her inability to perform sex is somehow unequal?


No, I'm talking about the man that beat me and kicked me and verbally
abused me while holding my son in his arms.

I'll take it even a step further, do you think women were unequal in a
patriarchal society? Women were always placed on a pedestal and
treated better than men. A woman's worth was more than a man's worth.
We men were/are second class citizens.


No, we're not, and I'm pretty sure you know it. Just look at what you're
writing and how you're writing it. You don't respect women you just want
what's best for you no matter what the woman wants.

My children are not ******* children,


Your children lack the love and strength that only an active father in
a two parent household can give. You, probably with your false
thinking, denied your kids that opportunity.


How do you know that? You do not know me. You do not know how I live you
do not know anything about my situation.

and I don't think
you're one who can judge that anyway.


But I can, as you can judge Anna as being a whore and me as a Troll.


Where was I judging someone personally? That's you doing it.

You don't know a thing about my life, so please, get a grip and troll off.


You should take your own advice, it could have saved your marriage
(assuming you were not just a whore).


I was never married. Thank goodness. I don't need to be ignored
permanently when I voice my concerns, I don't need to be kicked and
beaten and verbally abused. Please, show me the statistics comparing
violence from women against men to violence from men against women. Show
me where exactly women are treated as equals.
Show me where women earn the same wages as men for the same work, show
me what kind of wonderland you're living in, because I know it's not
where I am.

cu
nicole
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Old June 24th 07, 07:28 PM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On Jun 20, 5:47 pm, NL wrote:
schrieb:



On Jun 17, 9:50 pm, NL wrote:
wrote:
On May 20, 4:02 am, NL wrote:
I can see why you are a single mom. The brain rot of feminism has left
you single and thinking that a woman who cares and loves her husband
is a whore and maid.
It's a shame that the real people who suffer are the ******* children
you brought into this world.
Regards...
Yeah, Regards? What kind?


You decide.


You really think it's better to be in a
relationship where you're not treated as an equal is better than staying
single and sane?


Are you implying that the woman who is concerned about her husband's
sexual needs due to her inability to perform sex is somehow unequal?


No, I'm talking about the man that beat me and kicked me and verbally
abused me while holding my son in his arms.


Oh ok, because I was going by this statement which has nothing to do
with you:

" Honestly, I've been reading through this thread and I just can't
believe
how little self respect some of you have left!"


I'll take it even a step further, do you think women were unequal in a
patriarchal society? Women were always placed on a pedestal and
treated better than men. A woman's worth was more than a man's worth.
We men were/are second class citizens.


No, we're not, and I'm pretty sure you know it.


I'll show you below.

Just look at what you're
writing and how you're writing it. You don't respect women you just want
what's best for you no matter what the woman wants.


I don't respect the majority of westernized women because they fell
prey, like you, to the brain rot of feminism. But I do respect the
traditional women (and men) who sacrifice their self interest for that
of their children and family.


My children are not ******* children,


Your children lack the love and strength that only an active father in
a two parent household can give. You, probably with your false
thinking, denied your kids that opportunity.


How do you know that? You do not know me. You do not know how I live you
do not know anything about my situation.


It's a proven fact that a child in a two parent household is much
better off than in a single parent household because of the father's
contribution to the health and mental development of the child.


and I don't think
you're one who can judge that anyway.


But I can, as you can judge Anna as being a whore and me as a Troll.


Where was I judging someone personally? That's you doing it.


"Excuse me, but does he sometimes leave money on your bedside table,
too?"


You don't know a thing about my life, so please, get a grip and troll off.


You should take your own advice, it could have saved your marriage
(assuming you were not just a whore).


I was never married.


There you go. So you gave sex to a man who had no commitment to you?
Did he at least leave any money on the bedside table?

Thank goodness. I don't need to be ignored
permanently when I voice my concerns, I don't need to be kicked and
beaten and verbally abused.


I don't know the whole picture, but I doubt it is all the guy's fault
for what you experienced. This guy might have been as you described,
but let's look at your irresponsible behavior:
1. you were attracted to him on some type of level
2. you decided to live or be with him out of wedlock
3. Usually a guy doesn't change overnight, so you had to see this
personality trait before
4. You had at least 1 kid with him or you exposed your kids to this
guy.

Now your children are growing up without a man in their lives who
should be willing to commit himself to you and the children because
the poor decisions you made in your life. Because of this, somehow now
you're free, equal and liberated??? What's worse is you're trying to
poison the mindset of the original poster (and other people who can
relate to her). She is a woman who loves her husband and in no way
feels unequal with him. Her love for her children and her husband
questions her level of self sacrifice to maintain a happy home for her
family. I applaud her for that and you come here calling her a whore.


Please, show me the statistics comparing
violence from women against men to violence from men against women.


This is a typical feminist myth that has been debunked. The truth is
that women and men are equally violent towards each other.

http://www.batteredmen.com/straus21.htm

Show
me where exactly women are treated as equals.


Actually women were treated better than men and their lives were worth
more. Ask the survivors of the Titanic.

Show me where women earn the same wages as men for the same work,


Another Feminist myth. Men earn more because the studies didn't take
into consideration that men are willing to put longer hours at work,
take risker jobs, do not have maternity leave, etc. Think about it, if
women earned less than men, then in a capitalistic country, you would
see more women being hired than men.

http://management.about.com/od/women...rnMore2005.htm


show
me what kind of wonderland you're living in,


Well, my son has a loving selfless mother and father. Both my wife and
I decided to commit the rest of our lives to one another before having
kids. Although I was force fed the same BS that you were, I was smart
enough to find the truth and realize that you're only a victim in this
world if you allow yourself to be.

because I know it's not
where I am.


Then get there. If you feel that you're a whore because you're tired
and yet you have sex with your husband or if you feel like a maid
because you clean the house or if you feel like an underpaid
babysitter because you decided to stay at home and raise the kids,
then there is something wrong with you.

cu
nicole


You made so many mistakes in your life. Learn from them and learn the
truth before falling prey to the brain rot of feminism. A truly equal
person does not measure equality on the small details, but on the
bigger picture. If not for yourself, at least for your kids, make an
effort to grow up and get a grip.

Regards...

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Old June 25th 07, 01:01 AM posted to misc.kids.pregnancy
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On Jun 24, 12:36 pm, NL wrote:
schrieb:

Well, my son has a loving selfless mother and father. Both my wife and
I decided to commit the rest of our lives to one another before having
kids. Although I was force fed the same BS that you were, I was smart
enough to find the truth and realize that you're only a victim in this
world if you allow yourself to be.


Oh my god yes, you're so right! If you weren't married already I'd
really really want to marry you... Because guys like you are so rare,
really! WOW.


I don't marry whores with ******* children.

cu
nicole

btw: you know what makes the sound *plonk*?


No I don't. When you grow up, you're more than welcome to debate
"equality".

Regards...

 




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