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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
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wrote: No scientist would agree to what is going on with autism. All the scientists have been muzzled by the "Daubert" principle, whatever that is. What's stopping you from finding out? Other than your total inability to do research, I mean. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
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Myrl wrote: On Apr 2, 6:25*pm, (David Wright) wrote: The reports I've seen said five, not nine. I've seen everything from 6 - 9. I did watch an interview with Hannah's mom, and she clearly stated "9". But then the reporter at the end of that same interview quoted "6". Quite confusing. Either way - whether it's 5, 6, or 9, that seems like a lot of vaccinations at one time. Her father said 5 in the one interview I saw. More than that really would not make sense, based on current vaccination schedules. I mean, there are only ten distinct vaccines on the recommended schedule even now, and that's the childhood total and includes influenza. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
On Apr 2, 5:01*pm, wrote:
No scientist would agree to what is going on with autism. *All the scientists have been muzzled by the "Daubert" principle, whatever that is. Only doctors, who know little to no science, would perpetuate this medical fraud. *The title should have been Parents vs doctors. DrCee Actually I think it's quite clear that scientists may have opinions about autism. They may not always get to express them in courts of law. The only place they may be "muzzled" somewhat, is in court trials and litigation. Sometimes Daubert rears it's ugly head when judges, who are not scientists must decide whether science exists or is valid enough to allow "expert" witnesses (scientists and doctors, etc.) to testify to that validity. So in essence, you have a non-scientist (the judge) making rulings about whether scientists are actually "experts" or not. It gets dicey at best, and in more cases than not, Daubert decisions go against litigants. |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
"Jan Drew" wrote in message ... "Skeptic" wrote in message news:ULSIj.49855$TT4.5880@attbi_s22... "Ilena Rose" wrote in message ... Actress Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed to her son's autism. Actor Tom Cruise believes aliens put on this planet. That must make it true! What is true is your refusal to accept the important issue. Which is? That all good evidence shows no evidence of a cause/effecte between vaccinations and autism? That issue? |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
"Skeptic" wrote in message news:hNXIj.50194$TT4.20927@attbi_s22... "Jan Drew" wrote in message ... "Skeptic" wrote in message news:ULSIj.49855$TT4.5880@attbi_s22... "Ilena Rose" wrote in message ... Actress Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed to her son's autism. Actor Tom Cruise believes aliens put on this planet. That must make it true! What is true is your refusal to accept the important issue. Which is? That all good evidence shows no evidence of a cause/effecte between vaccinations and autism? That issue? "Jan Drew" wrote in message ... |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
In message , Myrl wrote:
The only place they may be "muzzled" somewhat, is in court trials and litigation. *Sometimes Daubert rears it's ugly head when judges, who are not scientists must decide whether science exists or is valid enough to allow "expert" witnesses (scientists and doctors, etc.) to testify to that validity. *So in essence, you have a non-scientist (the judge) making rulings about whether scientists are actually "experts" or not. You might want to actually read the Daubert test. It's rather firmly grounded in basic legal principles; the question is whether the supposed "expert witness" is expressing a matter of expertise (that is, others can follow his methods to reach the same result) or simply grinding a personal axe. If his methods aren't even /in/ /principle/ independently replicable, then there's no way to defend any claim of being based in objective reality. Note that the Daubert test is very widely applied in matters such as forensic evidence. -- | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions ----------+ |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
On Apr 2, 6:15*pm, Myrl wrote:
This seems to be a fair and balanced analysis about vaccines and autism. *I have recently wondered if emphasis should be placed on getting all suspected metals and components (i.e. Mercury and Aluminum, etc.) out of all vaccines. *At least as much as possible. The thing is, that even if it is vaccine related, it's become pretty unlikely that it's related to thimerosal or other preservatives/heavy metals, since they **already have** been removed, as much as possible; like nearly 100%. And even in countries where thimersoal hasn't been used in vaccines for 25 years, there hasn't been a drop in autism rates. Might be some sort of autoimmune thing stimulated by the vaccine; maybe only in certain individuals; but we don't understand those so well. Or, it might not be related to vaccines at all. but the one thing that's very likely, is that it isn't thimerosal in vaccines. |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, wrote:
On Apr 2, 4:06 pm, Ilena Rose wrote: http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal applauds Jenny McCarthy. Some in our support group have mentioned a possible environmental link with her breast implants also. Many of us believe that genetic predispositions coupled with an onslaught of other environmental factors: aluminum and / or mercury and / or platinum and / or silicone and / or pesticides and /or pharmaceuticals and / or vaccinations and / or second hand smoke and / or etc. etc. etc.) . . . in some permutation and combination, make these syndromes and diseases difficult to quantify and fit in neat little diagnoses. Video Parents vs. scientists: Watch the latest test case » I enjoyed this article. As an educated and experienced scientist, I really have to object to the "Parents vs scientists" part. No scientist would agree to what is going on with autism. All the scientists have been muzzled by the "Daubert" principle, whatever that is. Only doctors, who know little to no science, would perpetuate this medical fraud. The title should have been Parents vs doctors. Other than that, this was a nice report of what is going on. I can only appluad the parents for taking action in spite of the negativity of their medical doctors. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. DrCee, I love your tag line! It's a keeper I hope to help spread! |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
On Apr 3, 2:13*pm, Kelley Eidem wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, wrote: On Apr 2, 4:06 pm, Ilena Rose wrote: http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal applauds Jenny McCarthy. Some in our support group have mentioned a possible environmental link with her breast implants also. Many of us believe that genetic predispositions coupled with an onslaught of other environmental factors: aluminum * * and / or mercury * * and / or platinum * * and / or silicone * * and / or pesticides and /or pharmaceuticals * * *and / or vaccinations * * and / or second hand smoke * * and / or *etc. etc. etc.) . . . in some permutation and combination, *make these syndromes and diseases difficult to quantify and fit in neat little diagnoses. Video Parents vs. scientists: Watch the latest test case » I enjoyed this article. *As an educated and experienced scientist, I really have to object to the "Parents vs scientists" part. No scientist would agree to what is going on with autism. *All the scientists have been muzzled by the "Daubert" principle, whatever that is. Only doctors, who know little to no science, would perpetuate this medical fraud. *The title should have been Parents vs doctors. Other than that, this was a nice report of what is going on. *I can only appluad the parents for taking action in spite of the negativity of their medical doctors. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. DrCee, I love your tag line! It's a keeper I hope to help spread!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've got a better one: You can't take seriously anything said by a man who claims to have earned his PhD's on Uranus or Mars. |
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Jenny McCarthy: My son's recovery from autism
On Apr 3, 2:13*pm, Kelley Eidem wrote:
On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, wrote: On Apr 2, 4:06 pm, Ilena Rose wrote: http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal applauds Jenny McCarthy. Some in our support group have mentioned a possible environmental link with her breast implants also. Many of us believe that genetic predispositions coupled with an onslaught of other environmental factors: aluminum * * and / or mercury * * and / or platinum * * and / or silicone * * and / or pesticides and /or pharmaceuticals * * *and / or vaccinations * * and / or second hand smoke * * and / or *etc. etc. etc.) . . . in some permutation and combination, *make these syndromes and diseases difficult to quantify and fit in neat little diagnoses. Video Parents vs. scientists: Watch the latest test case » I enjoyed this article. *As an educated and experienced scientist, I really have to object to the "Parents vs scientists" part. No scientist would agree to what is going on with autism. *All the scientists have been muzzled by the "Daubert" principle, whatever that is. Only doctors, who know little to no science, would perpetuate this medical fraud. *The title should have been Parents vs doctors. Other than that, this was a nice report of what is going on. *I can only appluad the parents for taking action in spite of the negativity of their medical doctors. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. DrCee, I love your tag line! It's a keeper I hope to help spread!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you a lot. It does summarize the plight of the people of the world, and especially the American people, very well. Yours for better health and the health truth, DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. |
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