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OT - appetite stimulant for a 7 yo?
Chookie wrote:
What, just like Type 1 diabetics should learn to deal with it themselves? Or people with depression? I might be out of date, but my impression was that the drugs enable the child to START learning to control himself, not that they do the job for him. Chookie, you're getting all adversarial. I guess this topic is close to home. So far, with my kid, no, they haven't really had that effect on him. They've calmed down the "running on the ragged edge" thing: he doesn't freak out and cry when thwarted (at least not as much....); he can spend more time on schoolwork (or at least he did, until he got so bored with the repetition that it practically took tying him to his chair to get him to do his homework); and he's got a couple friends, now. That was really all I cared about - him having some friends. But, can you see my point? That it bothers me that his being able to make friends is dependent on him taking a fistful of pills every morning? No less than if it was some other psychiatric disorder, I feel bad about it. -- Cheri Stryker mom to DS1 - 7 yrs, and DS2 - 3.5 months Check out my new breastfeeding T-shirts on CafePress! http://www.cafepress.com/dancingbones |
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Cheri Stryker ) writes:
But, can you see my point? That it bothers me that his being able to make friends is dependent on him taking a fistful of pills every morning? No less than if it was some other psychiatric disorder, I feel bad about it. A diabetic's ability to make friends is dependent on taking insulin every morning (otherwise the diabetic would be dead or in a coma or something, not making friends.) I don't think that thought bothers diabetics. Why should the thought bother people with mood disorders? |
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OT - appetite stimulant for a 7 yo?
Catherine Woodgold wrote: -- give him the drug sometimes but not at other times, or at a lower dose, and use many natural treatments for ADD. For example, I think some people use a drug on school days but not on weekends. One problem with this is that the drug may have withdrawal effects that make the ADD symptoms worse. *Please* speak with DS's doctor before doing this, and determine what the half-life of concerta is, and whether changing (reducing) the dosage would provoke withdrawal effects. (I confess, speaking as someone who has been on antidepressants of one flavor or another for the past 20+ years, this advice for on-again-off-again medication makes me nuts, in all senses of the word. I'm also sure that some people stop taking antibiotics (or antidepressants) once they 'feel better' -- I really really don't recommend it.) Caledonia |
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OT - appetite stimulant for a 7 yo?
Catherine Woodgold wrote:
Cheri Stryker ) writes: But, can you see my point? That it bothers me that his being able to make friends is dependent on him taking a fistful of pills every morning? No less than if it was some other psychiatric disorder, I feel bad about it. A diabetic's ability to make friends is dependent on taking insulin every morning (otherwise the diabetic would be dead or in a coma or something, not making friends.) I don't think that thought bothers diabetics. Why should the thought bother people with mood disorders? I can think of more than one response to this. 1 - it doesn't bother him, it bothers me. 2 - Insulin makes a diabetic feel better. The spectrum of medication for psychiatric/mood/anxiety disorders (based on anecdotal information) often does NOT make the person feel better, despite controlling the targeted symptoms, due to the variety of other, discomfiting effects; in our case, loss of appetite, sleeplessness, nightmares, increase in general stress level and fearfulness, and, during the "finding the right dose" period, acting completely like a speed freak [scary]. -- Cheri Stryker mom to DS1 - 7 yrs, and DS2 - 3.5 months Check out my new breastfeeding T-shirts on CafePress! http://www.cafepress.com/dancingbones |
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OT - appetite stimulant for a 7 yo?
Caledonia wrote:
Catherine Woodgold wrote: -- give him the drug sometimes but not at other times, or at a lower dose, and use many natural treatments for ADD. For example, I think some people use a drug on school days but not on weekends. One problem with this is that the drug may have withdrawal effects that make the ADD symptoms worse. *Please* speak with DS's doctor before doing this, and determine what the half-life of concerta is, and whether changing (reducing) the dosage would provoke withdrawal effects. (I confess, speaking as someone who has been on antidepressants of one flavor or another for the past 20+ years, this advice for on-again-off-again medication makes me nuts, in all senses of the word. I'm also sure that some people stop taking antibiotics (or antidepressants) once they 'feel better' -- I really really don't recommend it.) Caledonia I DEFINITELY would only alter his dosing after talking to his Dr. Just FYI, though, concerta, ritalin, and all the stimulant-based ADD medications are supposed to be ok to vary the dosing on non-school days - they're billed as being completely processed out of the person's system in a number of hours (which is good, since they do interfere with sleep.) -- Cheri Stryker mom to DS1 - 7 yrs, and DS2 - 3.5 months Check out my new breastfeeding T-shirts on CafePress! http://www.cafepress.com/dancingbones |
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Cheri Stryker wrote: Chookie wrote: What, just like Type 1 diabetics should learn to deal with it themselves? Or people with depression? I might be out of date, but my impression was that the drugs enable the child to START learning to control himself, not that they do the job for him. Chookie, you're getting all adversarial. Oh dear, that was not my intention. Cathy put it very nicely: A diabetic's ability to make friends is dependent on taking insulin every morning (otherwise the diabetic would be dead or in a coma or something, not making friends.) I don't think that thought bothers diabetics. Why should the thought bother people with mood disorders? I guess this topic is close to home. So far, with my kid, no, they haven't really had that effect on him. They've calmed down the "running on the ragged edge" thing: he doesn't freak out and cry when thwarted (at least not as much....); he can spend more time on schoolwork (or at least he did, until he got so bored with the repetition that it practically took tying him to his chair to get him to do his homework); What I meant was more like this: Perhaps your DS's brain has never previously allowed him to gain *experience* in controlling himself, and in so in that respect he's like a younger child? Now he's is beginning to find out that he *can* control his emotions/behaviour, but it will be gradual process, as it is for everyone else. IOW DS needs your guidance to pick up a whole lot of new skills/ideas. and he's got a couple friends, now. That was really all I cared about - him having some friends. Fantastic! :-DDDD But, can you see my point? That it bothers me that his being able to make friends is dependent on him taking a fistful of pills every morning? No less than if it was some other psychiatric disorder, I feel bad about it. Well, yes -- but all it means is that the Concerta is taking away the whatever-it-is that obscures your DS's attractive qualities. One could say the same about regular bathing. (I am sure there was a French king who refused to take his first-ever bath on his wedding eve, on the grounds that it was unnatural!) My sister has to put on hearing aids every morning in order to hold down her job, keep her friends, etc. My sister's childhood was very hard work for Mum, particularly, because she had to be taught to speak, and I am sure my parents felt bad that she would have to wear *those things on her ears* for the rest of her life. Now she has a degree, is a chartered accountant, married, and pregnant (I am very excited about becoming an auntie!). She's an ordinary successful person who happens to be deaf. Her difference has receded in our minds -- it was probably much more salient in her childhood. I am guessing that it might be like that with your DS too. -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
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OT - appetite stimulant for a 7 yo?
Chookie wrote:
Her difference has receded in our minds -- it was probably much more salient in her childhood. I am guessing that it might be like that with your DS too. That's just what I'm counting on. [smile] Thanks for being understanding. -- Cheri Stryker mom to DS1 - 7 yrs, and DS2 - 3.5 months Check out my new breastfeeding T-shirts on CafePress! http://www.cafepress.com/dancingbones |
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