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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en meddelelse ... I'm just a wreck right now. :-( What can I do? I need a bit of guidance and some advice from people that are removed from the situation and are able to think clearly (because I'm certainly not able to). I had a planned c-sec at age 39 with my son. It was such a peaceful and wonderful experience. I had a spinal anaesthesia (sp?) and was awake holding DH's hand. Everyone was so kind and merry because we were almost having a party - my child was about to be born and no-one was ill. The moment he was born he was swaddled in a quilt and put in my arms while they sew me up. In recovery - less than an hour after the c-sec - he nursed - a little bit difficult as I couldn't sit up. I had an electric bed in hospital so that I could get out of bed without help. We have sleep in - no staff to take the baby an no nurseries - they don't exist. They did help me the first couple of days. I went home on day 5, I think. I was on pain meds for two weeks - no more. And I wasn't exactly a spring bunny. I'm not tough either. And I had a very clingy nearly 5-yo daughter at home. I nursed him for two years. Couldn't you have him with you in the recovery - after all: he must be sterile after spending 9 mos in seclusion? With a little help you can nurse lying on your back until you are allowed to move. I loved my planned c-sec. It was such a happy occasion. And do you know what? The moment they placed the block in my spine I rested as I hadn't done for months. Do you know the feeling you sometimes have when you're lying on the sofa - perfectly relaxed - thinking: Please - phone - don't ring right now. That's how I felt. For what it's worth. Tine, Denmark |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
Tine Andersen wrote:
"DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en meddelelse ... I'm just a wreck right now. :-( What can I do? I need a bit of guidance and some advice from people that are removed from the situation and are able to think clearly (because I'm certainly not able to). I had a planned c-sec at age 39 with my son. It was such a peaceful and wonderful experience. I had a spinal anaesthesia (sp?) and was awake holding DH's hand. Everyone was so kind and merry because we were almost having a party - my child was about to be born and no-one was ill. The moment he was born he was swaddled in a quilt and put in my arms while they sew me up. In recovery - less than an hour after the c-sec - he nursed - a little bit difficult as I couldn't sit up. I had an electric bed in hospital so that I could get out of bed without help. We have sleep in - no staff to take the baby an no nurseries - they don't exist. They did help me the first couple of days. I went home on day 5, I think. I was on pain meds for two weeks - no more. And I wasn't exactly a spring bunny. I'm not tough either. And I had a very clingy nearly 5-yo daughter at home. I nursed him for two years. Couldn't you have him with you in the recovery - after all: he must be sterile after spending 9 mos in seclusion? With a little help you can nurse lying on your back until you are allowed to move. I loved my planned c-sec. It was such a happy occasion. And do you know what? The moment they placed the block in my spine I rested as I hadn't done for months. Do you know the feeling you sometimes have when you're lying on the sofa - perfectly relaxed - thinking: Please - phone - don't ring right now. That's how I felt. For what it's worth. Tine, Denmark Tine, it's the post-partum recovery for me that would be difficult to manage. My twins are not yet potty-trained. I would have to lift them to change their diapers (or get on the floor - neither is desirable), and I would have to lift them for other occasions as well. But, I think a plan is formulating that might work out. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en meddelelse ... Tine, it's the post-partum recovery for me that would be difficult to manage. My twins are not yet potty-trained. I would have to lift them to change their diapers (or get on the floor - neither is desirable), and I would have to lift them for other occasions as well. But, I think a plan is formulating that might work out. Good - I mostly wrote it to balance your feeling of disaster if you had to have the c-sec. The pain from a c-sec is much lighter then those from contractions. I had 32 hours of labour the first time around before they finally decided on a c-sec. But you are right about the lifting. Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) Best of luck to you. I'm sure it'll turn out OK. Tine, Denmark |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
Hi - First of all, don't stress so much! (Easy to say, I know.) A little bit of formula in the hospital is VERY unlikely to sabotage your breastfeeding relationship. I'd be unhappy about being separated from the baby for so long, but not because of bf'ing. (Both mine were too sleepy to nurse for the first several hours, following vaginal births. Perfectly normal. Both were supplemented by cup with formula in the hospital on day 2 because of apparent dehydration; one was supplemented again, a LOT, on day ... 4? due to bad jaundice. Both nursed successfully for 10-13 months with no further supplementation until starting solids.) I'd arrange for hubby to stay with the baby at all times, abandoning you without regret until the baby returns. That way he can make sure that any supplementing is done by cup or dropper, etc. Once you get the baby back, keep her (him?) at the breast as much as possible, and remember to unlatch and relatch every time the latch isn't right. I hope everything goes easily. Best of luck, --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"Tine Andersen" wrote in message k... "DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en meddelelse ... Tine, it's the post-partum recovery for me that would be difficult to manage. My twins are not yet potty-trained. I would have to lift them to change their diapers (or get on the floor - neither is desirable), and I would have to lift them for other occasions as well. But, I think a plan is formulating that might work out. Good - I mostly wrote it to balance your feeling of disaster if you had to have the c-sec. The pain from a c-sec is much lighter then those from contractions. I had 32 hours of labour the first time around before they finally decided on a c-sec. But you are right about the lifting. Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) Well, Tine, with all due respect - you can't predict anyone's labor experience or their c/s experience. Every single experience is different. Your post-c/s pain was less than your contraction pain. But I had 2 c/s (one much worse than the other as far as recovery went, perhaps because one was after 24 hours of labor and one was scheduled) and one VBA2C, and I would take labor, delivery, and the recovery from my 4'10" body delivering an almost-8-lb baby ANY DAY over recovery from even my easier c/s. And, no, I didn't have an epidural for most of my labor (though I did have one placed during the pushing phase because my thigh muscles were cramping something awful). A c/s is certainly not the end of the world. They have their place. It's certainly easier on you emotionally afterward, I think, if you know *exactly* why you're having it, and agree with the reasons. It's certainly easier on you physically afterward, I think, if you haven't been through umpteen hours of labor first, being denied food and drink the whole time while your body is working hard. Also ssuming you don't get a post-surgical infection, or a hemorrhage, or a spinal headache from the medication, or any of the things that can go wrong with any surgery that have nothing to do with childbirth. Of course it also helps if you have the luxury of lying around to heal up from surgery afterward, and don't have other kids to chase around. :/ A c/s is not the end of the world, but I'd sure as the devil would want to have my ducks if I knew I was going to have one. (I did EVERYTHING in my power to make sure I had a good shot at a VBAC with #4 kiddo, because I did NOT want to go home to 3 other kids, and a newborn, and also be a surgical patient - again. I even had my previous scar measured via ultrasound to gauge my risk of uterine rupture.) I dunno. If I were in Truffles' shoes, I'd still struggle my best to have a VBAC simply because the recovery was 100X easier for me than it was from the c/s births I had. But I'd also have plans in place to allow me to heal afterward, if I wound up in surgery. Can't do that taking care of toddler twins. --angela |
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Tine Andersen wrote: Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) BS. This particular comment always makes me annoyed. If you said "My pelvis is shaped in a way that made it difficult" I could just swallow that. True cephalopelvic disproportion isn't as common as the medical folks would have it appear. IMO, and from my extensive reading pre-delivery, a good percentage of the c-sections on this rationale are due to malposition of the baby, (iow, anything other than textbook) which causes ob/gyns trained in the current skillset to get very nervous. They simply aren't trained in ways to deliver anything much beyond LOA babies. Anecdotes: My mother is 5'4", my father 6'2". She had three babies just fine, the smallest at 7lbs 13oz. Their current neighbor...she must be 5'2" and he is at least 6'....she had twins that were at least 6 lbs each. And when DS was born, I had a 5'4" friend who was told that her 6lb baby was "too big"...she was stunned that I had managed an 8lb baby without intervention or stitches. Don't even get me started about the drs who literally panicked when a family friend had mild shoulder dystocia with her second...but left her in lithotomy position to try to deliver (she did, baby fine, but stupid dr). /rant off Dawn |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"Tine Andersen" wrote in message k... | | "DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en | meddelelse ... | Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) | I'm 5'2 and DH is 6'1 and my baby came out no problem. There is no way you can tell from the size of the parents how difficult a delivery is going to be. Nadene |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"Plissken" wrote in message news:1SYTb.396477$X%5.15528@pd7tw2no... "Tine Andersen" wrote in message k... | | "DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en | meddelelse ... | Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) | I'm 5'2 and DH is 6'1 and my baby came out no problem. There is no way you can tell from the size of the parents how difficult a delivery is going to be. Nadene Yeah. They say Goldie Hawns daughters csection was an emergency because they were concerned about the baby's size it was smaller than my first child, who who I had vaginal delivery no episiotomy. Hah! |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
DeliciousTruffles wrote:
But, if I have to, a big fear of mine is establishing a nursing relationship with this baby. The so-called "breast-feeding friendly" hospital has a policy of taking the baby down to the nursery for up to 4 hours post surgery. I will be in the recovery room for a minimum of 1 to 1 1/2 hours. They will not bring the baby to me for the initial breastfeeding within one hour. I can't go to the baby. I'm worried that the blood sugars will be low and they will supplement. I don't want that if I can prevent it. But how can I prevent blood sugars from dropping if I can't nurse the baby! Okay. You sound like me a couple weeks before Gabe's scheduled section. I was crazy with tension about this. : ) So DH is going to be on toddler duty? But you have a doula? OK. Whoever is there who isn't you (e.g. DH or doula) stays with the baby. At all times. They don't let the nurses give any supplements, and they insist that the baby be in your room ASAP after they get it all stabilized (which does NOT take 4 hours). Here's how it went down when Gabe was born: I had the scheduled section. I spent two hours in recovery before I got back to my room. Gabe had low blood sugar (which is kind of a given when mom's been fasting prior to surgery), and DH told the nurses no supplements, this is a breastfed baby; after he nurses, they could check his blood sugar again and if it was still low, we'd reassess at that point. As soon as I got to my room, I nursed him and everything was all good from there on out. -- tristyn www.tristyn.net "i have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. i do not think that they will sing to me." |
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Hospital policies! Any suggestions? I need advice.
"Plissken" wrote in message news:1SYTb.396477$X%5.15528@pd7tw2no... "Tine Andersen" wrote in message k... | | "DeliciousTruffles" skrev i en | meddelelse ... | Me: 5'1" DH 6'something. No way those babies could get out :-) | I'm 5'2 and DH is 6'1 and my baby came out no problem. There is no way you can tell from the size of the parents how difficult a delivery is going to be. Yeah. I ought to add...I'm 4'10", my husband 5'11". Neither of my sections were for "baby too big". First one was for persistant posterior presentation, aka, stupid med folks didn't do a damned thing to help her turn, and kept me flat on my back. And she didn't come out. Well, maybe she would have, and maybe she wouldn't, but they didn't even TRY to help me have her. Section #2 was for fetal distress in twin B/footling breech presentation of twin A. VBA2C, I did my best to get baby in LOA. This included spending HOURS with my belly in a depression in a beanbag chair, and generally spending lots of time on all fours. She *still* presented asynclitic, and I got some help with the venteuse, but 7 lb 14 oz baby came out just fine. Presentation is prett'near everything. Most of the rest depends on whether your attendants know how to help when presentation isn't optimal. --angela |
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