Bragging Time

Thanks for your kind words, Elizabeth!


"elizabeth emerald" wrote in message
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"New York Jen" wrote in message
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I took Laszlo for his 2 year well toddler check up today. He's just
under
32 pounds and they couldn't get an accurate height reading because he
wouldn't cooperate, but the shorter end of what he measured was 34 1/4
inches and that puts him in the 50th percentile.

The pediatrician said that his behavior at parties and at Gymboree is
totally normal, which I already knew but it's nice to hear it from the
doctor. Laszlo prefers going to Target or Kohl's than to a party or gym
class. He really loves to sit down with a book or a puzzle or some
crayons - so we just know he's more cognitively stimulated than other
stuff...he gets very overstimulated in party places...especially when
people
get in his face. Gets that from me I guess. :-)

I told the doctor about how he knows his whole alphabet (not the song,
he
knows all the letters, recognizes them all upper case and most lower
case -
since 20 months), how he knows all his shapes (including octagon -
although
if it has 5 or 6 or 7 sides it's still an octagon) and that he knows all
his
colors and numbers 1-10 and some after, but not in order. He said that
he
already "passes" the *3* year old check up for that stuff.

DH was worried about the boy's diet, but the doc said at this age they
are
typically so picky that pretty much anything we can get in him is ok.
He
does eat some veggies and protein and we limit the sweets as much as you
can
for a 2 year old who knows what M&M's are and where they are located in
every store that carries them! We're also going to switch to 2% milk
per
his suggestion.

I suppose it's possible I'm raising a lil nerd, but that's fine with me.
Everyone is different and he couldn't be more perfect in my eyes if he
was
the biggest party monster in the world! I just wish my friends would
stop
trying to come up with suggestions about why my kid doesn't enjoy being
in
class or why he doesn't like parties...and what I can "do to fix it" or
what
the "trigger" is. It would be nice if people could understand that some
kids just don't dig that sort of thing. I like to think it means Laszlo
is
more discriminating than most...that it takes more to engage him than a
singing clown, but that's also just my way of rationalizing it. We
don't
go
to class that often, just once in a while now and I tell him before we
get
that that we'll leave as soon as he wants to. The party season is over,
as
he's the youngest of all his little friends, so that's something we
don't
have to worry about until next year. Whew.

He's also got a wicked sense of humor, but I think that just comes with
the
age. Nothing gets me more than that giggle...I could listen to it for
hours.

Ok, no more bragging. :-)


that's so great how well he is doing. you are just a wonderful mum for
accepting him exactly for who he is & letting him do what he wants to do
(within reason of course). hopefully your friends will understand that! i
hope i do the same as you with DS as much as i can.
--
elizabeth (in australia)
DS - born 20-aug-02

"New York Jen" wrote in message
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I told the doctor about how he knows his whole alphabet (not the song, he
knows all the letters, recognizes them all upper case and most lower
case -
since 20 months), how he knows all his shapes (including octagon -
although
if it has 5 or 6 or 7 sides it's still an octagon) and that he knows all
his
colors and numbers 1-10 and some after, but not in order. He said that he
already "passes" the *3* year old check up for that stuff.

Congrats to Lazlo, sincerely, and this isn't a flame to you, but your ped
thinks that all of that is three year old check up stuff? Hardly.
--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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Hardly in what sense? My three year old doesn't recognize more than a few
letters yet, nor does he have any idea what an octagon is as far as I know, and
I don't consider him at all behind. (And neither do his preschool teachers.)
Your comment only makes sense if you meant that doctors don't ordinarily
concern themselves with that sort of thing in such depth. (At our recent
3-year checkup, the doc evaluated DS' verbal skills -- which did involve asking
him to identify the colors of various objects in the room -- but she certainly
didn't ask whether he knew the alphabet or how high he can count.)

In fact, the only 2-year-old I know of who showed similar academic achievement
was recently diagnosed with Asperger's. (He is, by all reports, a darling and
extremely intelligent little boy who will undoubtedly be very successful in
life, but he does need some extra help negotiating interpersonal and social
relationships.)

Holly
Mom to Camden, 3yo
EDD #2 6/8/04

"New York Jen" wrote in message
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I told the doctor about how he knows his whole alphabet (not the song, he
knows all the letters, recognizes them all upper case and most lower
case -
since 20 months), how he knows all his shapes (including octagon -
although
if it has 5 or 6 or 7 sides it's still an octagon) and that he knows all
his
colors and numbers 1-10 and some after, but not in order. He said that he
already "passes" the *3* year old check up for that stuff.

Congrats to Lazlo, sincerely, and this isn't a flame to you, but your ped
thinks that all of that is three year old check up stuff? Hardly.

I'm confused on two accounts. First, I've never heard of a pediatrician even
asking about any of that stuff (mine didn't know Peter knew his letters until
he had to have an eye exam at four, and he *certainly* never asked about colors
or shapes). Second, Laszlo's accomplishments are pretty impressive, and are
beyond what the average 3-year-old could do (though some things, like color
names, are not very closely linked to general ability). They're certainly well
beyond what any of my kids have been able to do at two, though late talking
played a role with mine.

--Helen

"HollyLewis" wrote in message
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Hardly in what sense? My three year old doesn't recognize more than a few
letters yet, nor does he have any idea what an octagon is as far as I
know, and
I don't consider him at all behind. (And neither do his preschool
teachers.)
Your comment only makes sense if you meant that doctors don't ordinarily
concern themselves with that sort of thing in such depth. (At our recent
3-year checkup, the doc evaluated DS' verbal skills -- which did involve
asking
him to identify the colors of various objects in the room -- but she
certainly
didn't ask whether he knew the alphabet or how high he can count.)

Oh, goodness I really wasn't clear. I was thinking that they were more like
*four* year old achievements than 3 year olds and it suprised me that the
doctor would be concerned with academic stuff anyway. To be even more clear,
I thought it sounded like the doctor had *high* expectations of 3 year olds.

There's no doubt Lazlo's way ahead of the curve, I guess as a former
teacher I was concerned about the trickling *up* of education specifically
the way Kindergarten is now more like first grade.

FWIW, my 3.4 month old recognizes the letters M and T, his name and the
numbers 2,3 and 4.

--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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"New York Jen" wrote in message
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Congrats to Lazlo, sincerely, and this isn't a flame to you, but your
ped
thinks that all of that is three year old check up stuff? Hardly.
--
JennP.

Perhaps not 3 year old achievements, but he may have said it to suggest
that
he's well ahead of most of his peers (which I already know from the peers
we
hang out with). Most of them don't recognize more than a couple of
letters
and certainly can't make the sounds associated, etc. Several don't know
their colors and some aren't verbal at all enough to know if they know
those
things or not.

Perhaps you could have said that a little more nicely as well, eh?

I did say no flame to you and apparently since HollyLewis took my comment
the same way I was not clear. What I meant were that those are more like
four year old milestones than three year old ones and I was suprised that
the ped would think that those are three year old achievements and not four
year old or older ones. . Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was in no way
insulting Lazlo's intelligence since he's clearly ahead of the curve.


--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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"H Schinske" wrote in message
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I'm confused on two accounts. First, I've never heard of a pediatrician
even
asking about any of that stuff (mine didn't know Peter knew his letters
until
he had to have an eye exam at four, and he *certainly* never asked about
colors
or shapes). Second, Laszlo's accomplishments are pretty impressive, and
are
beyond what the average 3-year-old could do (though some things, like
color
names, are not very closely linked to general ability). They're certainly
well
beyond what any of my kids have been able to do at two, though late
talking
played a role with mine.

Yikes! You are confused because I was not clear. Please see my follow up
posts to Jen and HollyLewis.
--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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wrote:

In fact, the only 2-year-old I know of who showed similar academic
achievement
was recently diagnosed with Asperger's.

Some children who recognize letters and read early are wrongly diagnosed with
Asperger's, hyperlexia, or non-verbal learning disorder, too, when there isn't
a thing "wrong" with them except being good at stuff. Misdiagnosis in either
direction can be damaging. As Meredith Warshaw put it (
http://2enewsletter.com/arch%20Warshaw%2012_03.htm )

"Although many gifted children do get misdiagnosed as having ADHD, depression,
Asperger Syndrome, learning disabilities, and an alphabet soup of other
disorders, it is equally true that many gifted kids really do have these
special needs, often going undiagnosed. And while it is damaging for children
to be erroneously labeled because of a mismatch between their giftedness and
their school setting, it is also very damaging when twice-exceptional
children’s special needs are not identified."

Twice-exceptional means both gifted and learning-disabled.

--Helen

JennP wrote:


Yikes! You are confused because I was not clear.

Okay, 's all cool! :-)

--Helen

Ah! Ok then!

:-)

sorry for the misunderstanding!


"JennP" wrote in message
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"New York Jen" wrote in message
et...

Congrats to Lazlo, sincerely, and this isn't a flame to you, but your
ped
thinks that all of that is three year old check up stuff? Hardly.
--
JennP.

Perhaps not 3 year old achievements, but he may have said it to suggest
that
he's well ahead of most of his peers (which I already know from the
peers
we
hang out with). Most of them don't recognize more than a couple of
letters
and certainly can't make the sounds associated, etc. Several don't know
their colors and some aren't verbal at all enough to know if they know
those
things or not.

Perhaps you could have said that a little more nicely as well, eh?

I did say no flame to you and apparently since HollyLewis took my comment
the same way I was not clear. What I meant were that those are more like
four year old milestones than three year old ones and I was suprised that
the ped would think that those are three year old achievements and not
four
year old or older ones. . Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was in no way
insulting Lazlo's intelligence since he's clearly ahead of the curve.


--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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Ok, so now I'm worried that he has Asperger's! OY!

Off to do research!


"H Schinske" wrote in message
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wrote:

In fact, the only 2-year-old I know of who showed similar academic
achievement
was recently diagnosed with Asperger's.

Some children who recognize letters and read early are wrongly diagnosed
with
Asperger's, hyperlexia, or non-verbal learning disorder, too, when there
isn't
a thing "wrong" with them except being good at stuff. Misdiagnosis in
either
direction can be damaging. As Meredith Warshaw put it (
http://2enewsletter.com/arch%20Warshaw%2012_03.htm )

"Although many gifted children do get misdiagnosed as having ADHD,
depression,
Asperger Syndrome, learning disabilities, and an alphabet soup of other
disorders, it is equally true that many gifted kids really do have these
special needs, often going undiagnosed. And while it is damaging for
children
to be erroneously labeled because of a mismatch between their giftedness
and
their school setting, it is also very damaging when twice-exceptional
children's special needs are not identified."

Twice-exceptional means both gifted and learning-disabled.

--Helen