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Old June 7th 06, 01:29 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Engram wrote:

The yoghurt was the problem. You shouldn't start her on full-on dairy for
another couple of months. DS tolerated yoghurt well from about 8+ months.
Between 6 and 9 or 10 months is when most allergic reactions happen.


I'm not too terribly worried honestly. All those, 'try this food for a
week before you try something else new" ? Pft. This is my third baby,
and the other two did well on plain yogurt as a first food, since
neither of them really took to rice cereal after multiple attempts. I
like to try the applesauce, pear sauce, yogurt, mashed potato, even
tiny bits of plain pasta, since who actually chews macaroni? Not my
kids it seems. (My 4 yo seems to be quite proud of the fact she doesn't
have to chew her mac n chs....)

So delay the common allergens - wheat (gluten) 8 months,
milk (lactose and milk proteins) 8 or 9 months, eggs (particularly egg
whites which carry more egg proteins than the yolk) after 10 months and nuts
(this is the biggie, most likely to cause death due to anaphylaxis) after 1
year. If you can hang on and delay nuts until after 2 years, all the better.
Especially if your daughter has eczema, which is a marker for a kid prone to
allergies.



Luckily, none of my kids seem to be allergic to anything. My dh gets
mild hay fever, but that didn't start until he was 40. He has a
daughter though, who has the full blown peanut, shellfish and soy
allergy, amongst others.

Stasya


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Old June 7th 06, 02:02 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Hi --

I think of introducing solids as being a bit like playing roulette.
Most solids are fine for most babies. But for some babies, some solids
can be dangerous (in terms of allergies etc.) And you won't know which
kind of baby you have until you try the solids!

The reason to delay solids past 6 months is that the typical baby's gut
is immature, "leaky", younger than that. So the odds of a bad reaction
are highter when the baby is smaller.

The reason to delay the most common allergens (milk protein, egg, wheat,
soy) until 8-9 months is that, statistically, the odds of a bad reaction
decrease over time.

The reason to delay the deadliest allergens (tree nuts, peanuts,
shellfish) until 1-3 YEARS of age is that you want your baby to be able
to TELL you about early reaction signs (tickly or itchy throat, for
example) while there's still time to get to a hospital before
anaphylaxis sets in.

For the statistical baby, it's wise to follow all the recommendations
about delaying this or that solid, and about waiting 3-4 days after
introducing one solid before introducing another. (That helps you
figure out WHICH solid is causing the eczema, sniffles, whatever.) But
for the actual baby in front of you... well, you do what you think is
best.

My two cents,
--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
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Old June 7th 06, 03:39 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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"Engram" wrote in message
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As long as it was beef... And was fresh... LOL Beef is the only meat
humans can consume without cooking. Unlike pork and chicken, it doesn't
actually carry any of the bacteria that make us sick.


I've got some microbiology notes that would probably make you reconsider
that.

Jess


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Old June 7th 06, 04:32 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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I'm sure that's more than true The amounts of microbes and fecal matter
deposited on the keys of ATM terminals within a half hour of being swabbed
with alcohol is enough to make anyone's hair curl. Let's not even think
about a portion of raw meat that's been refrigerated for a few days and then
liberally smeared all over the floor by an enthusiastic 1 year old...

Generally speaking, beef tends to be the one meat that humans can eat raw
(steak tartar, anyone?) and not get violently sick, as they do when eating
other types of raw meat. That said, I still wouldn't feed it to my child.

"Jess" wrote in message
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I've got some microbiology notes that would probably make you reconsider
that.

Jess



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Old June 7th 06, 10:10 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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stasya wrote:

I know there are people and institutions say that you should breastfeed
exclusively until 6 months, but what do you do when an exactly 5 month
old baby grabs your hand, and stuffs your toast (with cheez whiz) into
her mouth?


5-month-olds take anything from your hand and
puts it into her mouth, be it knife, ball,
pen, dirty diaper, or food. That action does
not constitute readiness, in and of itself.

I have a lot of family history (including myself)
of allergies, so I am very cautious. If you do
not, you need not worry so much.

-- Anita --
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Old June 7th 06, 01:05 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Fair enough. It is generally recommended that kids are started on rice
cereal, hence the feeding with a spoon idea. I guess there is no reason
not to start them on soft boiled vegetables which they can hold in their
hand instead. I'd steer clear of bread/toast at that young age, though, as
wheat products are not supposed to be introduced until around 8 or 9
months (due to possibility of gluten intolerance or allergy).


there is a small but increasing in size movement of people who practice
"baby led weaning" which means not offering things on a spoon. I'm not
really of that camp, more that I've had two babies who were very slow to get
rid of the tongue thrust reflex and once they did, they've been fed with
spoons, forks, chopsticks, whatever!

I've also been fortunate that due to no history of any allergies on either
side of the family, once we got to 6 months it didn't really matter what we
gave them, though had they had anything before 6 months we would have been
much more restricted in what we had given them.

Anne


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Old June 7th 06, 01:08 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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5-month-olds take anything from your hand and
puts it into her mouth, be it knife, ball,
pen, dirty diaper, or food. That action does
not constitute readiness, in and of itself.


because if it did my 3 year old would have his driving license!

Anne


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Old June 7th 06, 01:31 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
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I've also been fortunate that due to no history of any allergies on either
side of the family, once we got to 6 months it didn't really matter what
we gave them, though had they had anything before 6 months we would have
been much more restricted in what we had given them.


There's no history of food allergies in my family, either. I'm the only one
allergic to anything and I'm only mildly milk intolerant. I can eat dairy,
just not in very large quantities. I have to eat a LOT for it to affect me.
Alas, no pizza and/or mexican pig-outs for me because extreme quantities of
cheese make me regret the entire episode the next day...

Matt turned out to be allergic to eggs. Nobody in the family has this
particular allergy. So I'd say family history of no allergy to this
particular food was no protection.

Also, peanut allergies and milk allergies tend to be more common amongst the
Asian population. Doesn't mean that if you're from another race you won't
have it. Or that your children won't get it. One of the reasons pregnant
women are told not to eat peanuts and large quantities of eggs is so that
the baby doesn't become sensitised.


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Old June 7th 06, 04:41 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Anne Rogers wrote:
5-month-olds take anything from your hand and
puts it into her mouth, be it knife, ball,
pen, dirty diaper, or food. That action does
not constitute readiness, in and of itself.


because if it did my 3 year old would have his driving license!

Anne


Isn't that true?! My ds LOVED to sit on his dad's lap and pretend to
drive the motorhome around the parking lot. He'd get so excited, he'd
actually push his dad's hands off so he could drive himself! Something
not to try at home kids....
Anyone remember that story of those kids who tried to drive to
Macdonalds? They lived in an apartment building, and I think they were
3 and 5. They left their apartment at 6 am on a Saturday and got into
their parents car. They obviously didn't make it, and hit 3 or 4 cars
before finally butting up against a telephone pole.
Just when you thought it was safe to lay on the sofa and have a nap
while they watch cartoons!

Stasya

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Old June 7th 06, 05:30 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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There's no history of food allergies in my family, either. I'm the only
one
allergic to anything and I'm only mildly milk intolerant. I can eat dairy,
just not in very large quantities. I have to eat a LOT for it to affect
me. Alas, no pizza and/or mexican pig-outs for me because extreme
quantities of cheese make me regret the entire episode the next day...

Matt turned out to be allergic to eggs. Nobody in the family has this
particular allergy. So I'd say family history of no allergy to this
particular food was no protection.


you being intolerant to dairy is a history of allergies, it's not the type
of allergy that counts, it's more a general tendancy, milk allergic parent
doesn't imply milk allergic children, but a parent with food allergies leads
to a increased risk of allergies to other things.

So yes, no history isn't total protection, but does help! After that it's
all a case of what you are comfortable with, following a very strict slow
introduction of solids when you know you have a child who is at risk, is
very hard work, so when you know your child is not one of those children,
you make the choice and watch and see what happens. We didn't force food
very fast anyway and had we seen any reaction at all, we would have been
much more careful what we placed on her highchair tray.

Anne


 




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