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Old December 14th 06, 02:03 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.

Those percentages are real people, lots of them.



NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM
2. Just over 5% of those aged 12 and over in the US have ever
tried methamphetamine, and that approximately 0.3% of the
population has used methamphetamine in the past month. In
comparison, 40.6% were reported to have tried marijuana in
their lifetimes and 6.2% of the population were estimated
to have tried marijuana in the past month; 14.7% of the
population were reported to have ever tried cocaine and
1.0% were past month users; 1.6% of the US population have
ever tried heroin and 0.1% were estimated to be past month
users; and 4.3% of the US population have ever tried Ecstasy
(MDMA) while 0.2% were estimated to be past month users.


NO EPIDEMIC
3. "The number of new users of stimulants generally increased
during the 1990s, but there has been little change since 2000.
Incidence of methamphetamine use generally rose between 1992
and 1998. Since then, there have been no statistically
significant changes."


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Old December 14th 06, 04:10 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Greegor wrote:
Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.

Those percentages are real people, lots of them.



NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM


Something not being the biggest problem doesn't remove it's status as A
problem.

Leave this one alone and it would run up soon enough.

In fact, about the only thing stoping this one from doing it is the
preparation and decisions of the drug lords in a few countries outside
this one.

I'm watching SEA. They are now the principle producers of ICE.

SEA is the principle user base as well. But they have already targetted
other markets and doing quite well. Australia is caving under the
weight of LE, related crime, and medical issues connected to a flood of
ICE coming into the country.

It's rumored they are talking about hitting the big market, North
America. And in fact, the Americas.

If they do, the structure for distribution is already in place. A
collaboration between them and the Canadian (yes, there IS a Canadian
based drug cartel, little boy) and Central and South American drug
people will be very very bad.

They KNOW how to open markets. Look at their long long history. It goes
clear back to prohibition.

2. Just over 5% of those aged 12 and over in the US have ever
tried methamphetamine, and that approximately 0.3% of the
population has used methamphetamine in the past month. In
comparison, 40.6% were reported to have tried marijuana in
their lifetimes and 6.2% of the population were estimated
to have tried marijuana in the past month; 14.7% of the
population were reported to have ever tried cocaine and
1.0% were past month users; 1.6% of the US population have
ever tried heroin and 0.1% were estimated to be past month
users; and 4.3% of the US population have ever tried Ecstasy
(MDMA) while 0.2% were estimated to be past month users.


NO EPIDEMIC


Sure there is. You just don't know the definition of "epidemic" and
forget that I gave Doug a language lesson right out of the dictionary.
I may have mentioned the CDC description as well.

Trust me, any disease that had a "5% of those aged 12 and over, "
occurance would be called an epidemic long before that 5% was reached.

And considering it's movement across the country, poping here and then
there then over there, it's an epidemic of major proportions.

"Definition of Epidemic

Epidemic: The occurrence of more cases of a disease than would be
expected in a community or region during a given time period. A sudden
severe outbreak of a disease such as SARS. From the Greek "epi-",
"upon" + "demos", "people or population" = "epidemos" = "upon the
population." See also: Endemic; Pandemic."

Would you like to argue that this was an expected occurance so it all
hunky dory?

Up until recently communities were not preparing for it, and damned if
they didn't have an unexpected occurance. Epidemic by definition.

Need mo

ep·i·dem·ic Pronunciation (p-dmk) also ep·i·dem·i·cal (--kl)
adj.
1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many
individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic
outbreak of influenza.
2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent.
n.
1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely.
2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic.

It qualifies as both an adjective, and as a noun.

Want to argue some more?

3. "The number of new users of stimul

ants generally increased
during the 1990s, but there has been little change since 2000.
Incidence of methamphetamine use generally rose between 1992
and 1998. Since then, there have been no statistically
significant changes."


Notice the above? I commented on it, but strangely it's gone from this
post of yours.

You just didn't want to get anywhere near the argument I made, now did
you, boy?

If you have a disease that has reached this level, and it's now
unchanged, which includes not going DOWN. And when you fix it here, it
breaks out over there, maintaining the same total of cases, you have a
serious epidemic on your hands.

That is simply what is happening.

The trick is to get everyone on board at the same time, and places
where it hasn't struck yet taking prophylactic measures. Like watching
for signs of it.

Have your infrastructure prepared and informed. Enough jail space and
enough treatment beds lined up for the future.

Proper testing equipment. Hazmat suits for cookers labs.

Most of these things have dual and multi use capabilities so it's not a
waste of resources. It's just being prepared

So far I haven't invested in any companies that might be involved.
Should I?

I just can't wait for the jolly fellows out of South East Asia to
connect with our north and south neighbors.

Did you know there are major cookers in Canada, Greg, or does learning
about this defeat your need to minimize it?

Remember, because it's not the largest problem doesn't mean it isn't a
problem of sufficient proportions to be given attention.

Your "case" for instance, is a **** in the ocean of the judicial
system. Do you think you should be minimized by the court and its
officers?

0:-]

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Old December 14th 06, 06:10 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Kane mistakenly attributed the below text to Greegor:
Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.


Kane wrote
Leave this one alone and it would run up soon enough.


Or you could just be PARANOID and exaggerating the problem.
Here you exhibit a form of "wishful thinking" from the
perspective of BENEFICIARIES seeking FUNDING. (Like NACO)

  #4  
Old December 17th 06, 02:46 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Greegor wrote:
Kane mistakenly attributed the below text to Greegor:
Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.


Kane wrote
Leave this one alone and it would run up soon enough.


Or you could just be PARANOID and exaggerating the problem.
Here you exhibit a form of "wishful thinking" from the
perspective of BENEFICIARIES seeking FUNDING. (Like NACO)


Paranoid?

Nope. Mexican authorities, just a few days ago, on a citizen's tip,
intercepted a shipment, tons of pseudophedrine (the key ingredient in
methamphetamine) so large it could have made a dose of meth for every
adult in the U.S.

It was bound, of course, for the Mexican superlabs that are now driving
the mom and pop home cooker meth labs pretty much into the background.

You don't bother to stay up to date on much, Greg, but you seem to have
mountains of opinions.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t...coll%3D7&cid=0
Mexico halts meth chemical at port
19.5 metric tons -
Thursday, December 14, 2006
STEVE SUO

Mexican officials inspecting a cargo container shipped from China have
uncovered a 19.5-ton cache of pseudoephedrine, enough to make a dose of
methamphetamine for every adult American.

Hundreds of barrels containing the essential meth ingredient were
seized Dec. 5 at the Lazaro Cardenas seaport in Michoacan after a
citizen tip, according to Mexico's attorney general. It was the largest
seizure of pseudoephedrine or ephedrine in Mexican history and one of
the biggest on record worldwide.

The 19.5 metric tons amount to 8 percent of the 233 metric tons of
ephedrine and pseudoephedrine that China manufactured in 2005,
according to Chinese government statistics compiled by Guangzhou CCM
Chemical Co. Ltd. ...

And then there's the Canadian connection I mentioned.

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/suo1208062.html

Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

BY STEVE SUO
c.2006 Newhouse News Service

Alex Hanson says the lab at this British Columbia farmhouse consumed
220 pounds of ephedrine and put out 140 pounds of meth every two weeks.
(Photo by Fredrick D. Joe)
Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

HATZIC PRAIRIE, British Columbia -- Alex Hanson stood outside an
abandoned farmhouse one evening in June, preparing to enter what he
describes as the superlab that ended his drug career.

Three months before, Hanson said, he was here working with a group that
converted 110-pound barrels of ephedrine from India and China into
methamphetamine. Hanson walked away and went on Canadian television to
describe the operation. The crew fled.

What remained were the crystals, caked to doors and crunching
underfoot. Hanson stopped to scrape up a pile of remnants with a
hunting knife.

"Can you smell, in the air, that sick, sweet aroma?" said Hanson.
"That's how you smell production. That's the smell of money."

While crime organizations in Asia have begun to operate meth megalabs
using bulk ephedrine from India and China, Canadian criminals of Indian
and Chinese ancestry are now tapping some of these same sources of
chemicals to mass-produce meth in Canada.

The development is of concern to the United States, where Canadian drug
traffickers have a strong presence. Asian organizations in Canada
already have displaced Europe as the main U.S. supplier of the club
drug Ecstasy, according to U.S. officials.

Now, those traffickers are moving into production of crystal meth.
Authorities in British Columbia last year seized four working labs that
met the U.S. definition of a superlab, said Staff Sgt. Mike Harding of
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Harding estimated there also were
six chemical dump sites with enough meth waste to have come from
superlabs. ...

More on this story makes plain that meth isn't a "little" drug used by
housewivest to lose weight anymore. But oddly, long after that phase
ended, guess who the latest demographic of victims is topped by? Yep,
for some reason housewives are getting into meth like they got into
diet pills way back when.

We are in trouble with this drug.

My fear is that the SE Asians, Mexicans, and the Canadians producing
and distributing are working on hooking up. That could be paranoia on
my part 0:-, but then, even if they don't make meth cheaper and easier
to get by cooperating with each other, their two or three "businesses"
will compete the price down.

Cheaper illegal drugs in greater supply always result in an increase in
use, and of course, more deadly OD's.

I can see how mean and vicious you are, and always have been Greg, but
this seems to push the envelope just a tad, don't you think?

Or don't you think?

Were these stories just hype to get more money?

Kane

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Old December 17th 06, 02:13 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
Greegor
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Which newsgroup are you posting this to and WHY?
alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents

Please take your lobbying for agency FUNDING to a thread
more appropriate for bureaucratic sucking off for FUNDS.

0:- wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Kane mistakenly attributed the below text to Greegor:
Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.


Kane wrote
Leave this one alone and it would run up soon enough.


Or you could just be PARANOID and exaggerating the problem.
Here you exhibit a form of "wishful thinking" from the
perspective of BENEFICIARIES seeking FUNDING. (Like NACO)


Paranoid?

Nope. Mexican authorities, just a few days ago, on a citizen's tip,
intercepted a shipment, tons of pseudophedrine (the key ingredient in
methamphetamine) so large it could have made a dose of meth for every
adult in the U.S.

It was bound, of course, for the Mexican superlabs that are now driving
the mom and pop home cooker meth labs pretty much into the background.

You don't bother to stay up to date on much, Greg, but you seem to have
mountains of opinions.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t...coll%3D7&cid=0
Mexico halts meth chemical at port
19.5 metric tons -
Thursday, December 14, 2006
STEVE SUO

Mexican officials inspecting a cargo container shipped from China have
uncovered a 19.5-ton cache of pseudoephedrine, enough to make a dose of
methamphetamine for every adult American.

Hundreds of barrels containing the essential meth ingredient were
seized Dec. 5 at the Lazaro Cardenas seaport in Michoacan after a
citizen tip, according to Mexico's attorney general. It was the largest
seizure of pseudoephedrine or ephedrine in Mexican history and one of
the biggest on record worldwide.

The 19.5 metric tons amount to 8 percent of the 233 metric tons of
ephedrine and pseudoephedrine that China manufactured in 2005,
according to Chinese government statistics compiled by Guangzhou CCM
Chemical Co. Ltd. ...

And then there's the Canadian connection I mentioned.

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/suo1208062.html

Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

BY STEVE SUO
c.2006 Newhouse News Service

Alex Hanson says the lab at this British Columbia farmhouse consumed
220 pounds of ephedrine and put out 140 pounds of meth every two weeks.
(Photo by Fredrick D. Joe)
Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

HATZIC PRAIRIE, British Columbia -- Alex Hanson stood outside an
abandoned farmhouse one evening in June, preparing to enter what he
describes as the superlab that ended his drug career.

Three months before, Hanson said, he was here working with a group that
converted 110-pound barrels of ephedrine from India and China into
methamphetamine. Hanson walked away and went on Canadian television to
describe the operation. The crew fled.

What remained were the crystals, caked to doors and crunching
underfoot. Hanson stopped to scrape up a pile of remnants with a
hunting knife.

"Can you smell, in the air, that sick, sweet aroma?" said Hanson.
"That's how you smell production. That's the smell of money."

While crime organizations in Asia have begun to operate meth megalabs
using bulk ephedrine from India and China, Canadian criminals of Indian
and Chinese ancestry are now tapping some of these same sources of
chemicals to mass-produce meth in Canada.

The development is of concern to the United States, where Canadian drug
traffickers have a strong presence. Asian organizations in Canada
already have displaced Europe as the main U.S. supplier of the club
drug Ecstasy, according to U.S. officials.

Now, those traffickers are moving into production of crystal meth.
Authorities in British Columbia last year seized four working labs that
met the U.S. definition of a superlab, said Staff Sgt. Mike Harding of
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Harding estimated there also were
six chemical dump sites with enough meth waste to have come from
superlabs. ...

More on this story makes plain that meth isn't a "little" drug used by
housewivest to lose weight anymore. But oddly, long after that phase
ended, guess who the latest demographic of victims is topped by? Yep,
for some reason housewives are getting into meth like they got into
diet pills way back when.

We are in trouble with this drug.

My fear is that the SE Asians, Mexicans, and the Canadians producing
and distributing are working on hooking up. That could be paranoia on
my part 0:-, but then, even if they don't make meth cheaper and easier
to get by cooperating with each other, their two or three "businesses"
will compete the price down.

Cheaper illegal drugs in greater supply always result in an increase in
use, and of course, more deadly OD's.

I can see how mean and vicious you are, and always have been Greg, but
this seems to push the envelope just a tad, don't you think?

Or don't you think?

Were these stories just hype to get more money?

Kane


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Old December 17th 06, 03:58 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Greegor wrote:
Which newsgroup are you posting this to and WHY?


All three are parent and child, foster and adopt, CPS issues
newsgroups.

alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents

Please take your lobbying for agency FUNDING to a thread
more appropriate for bureaucratic sucking off for FUNDS.


What agency are we discussing here?

You seem very sensitive about this issue.

Why is that Greg? Without funding there would't be money to pay off
lawsuits. Now would there?

And children are involved in the meth epidemic, Greg. Currenty meth is
the number problem drug for families involved with CPS.

Kane



0:- wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Kane mistakenly attributed the below text to Greegor:
Expecially the comparisons. The don't mask the problem by showing meth
isn't as prevalent as other drugs. What it shows is that Meth is most
definately in the running.

Kane wrote
Leave this one alone and it would run up soon enough.

Or you could just be PARANOID and exaggerating the problem.
Here you exhibit a form of "wishful thinking" from the
perspective of BENEFICIARIES seeking FUNDING. (Like NACO)


Paranoid?

Nope. Mexican authorities, just a few days ago, on a citizen's tip,
intercepted a shipment, tons of pseudophedrine (the key ingredient in
methamphetamine) so large it could have made a dose of meth for every
adult in the U.S.

It was bound, of course, for the Mexican superlabs that are now driving
the mom and pop home cooker meth labs pretty much into the background.

You don't bother to stay up to date on much, Greg, but you seem to have
mountains of opinions.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t...coll%3D7&cid=0
Mexico halts meth chemical at port
19.5 metric tons -
Thursday, December 14, 2006
STEVE SUO

Mexican officials inspecting a cargo container shipped from China have
uncovered a 19.5-ton cache of pseudoephedrine, enough to make a dose of
methamphetamine for every adult American.

Hundreds of barrels containing the essential meth ingredient were
seized Dec. 5 at the Lazaro Cardenas seaport in Michoacan after a
citizen tip, according to Mexico's attorney general. It was the largest
seizure of pseudoephedrine or ephedrine in Mexican history and one of
the biggest on record worldwide.

The 19.5 metric tons amount to 8 percent of the 233 metric tons of
ephedrine and pseudoephedrine that China manufactured in 2005,
according to Chinese government statistics compiled by Guangzhou CCM
Chemical Co. Ltd. ...

And then there's the Canadian connection I mentioned.

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/suo1208062.html

Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

BY STEVE SUO
c.2006 Newhouse News Service

Alex Hanson says the lab at this British Columbia farmhouse consumed
220 pounds of ephedrine and put out 140 pounds of meth every two weeks.
(Photo by Fredrick D. Joe)
Canadian drug traffickers expanding into meth

HATZIC PRAIRIE, British Columbia -- Alex Hanson stood outside an
abandoned farmhouse one evening in June, preparing to enter what he
describes as the superlab that ended his drug career.

Three months before, Hanson said, he was here working with a group that
converted 110-pound barrels of ephedrine from India and China into
methamphetamine. Hanson walked away and went on Canadian television to
describe the operation. The crew fled.

What remained were the crystals, caked to doors and crunching
underfoot. Hanson stopped to scrape up a pile of remnants with a
hunting knife.

"Can you smell, in the air, that sick, sweet aroma?" said Hanson.
"That's how you smell production. That's the smell of money."

While crime organizations in Asia have begun to operate meth megalabs
using bulk ephedrine from India and China, Canadian criminals of Indian
and Chinese ancestry are now tapping some of these same sources of
chemicals to mass-produce meth in Canada.

The development is of concern to the United States, where Canadian drug
traffickers have a strong presence. Asian organizations in Canada
already have displaced Europe as the main U.S. supplier of the club
drug Ecstasy, according to U.S. officials.

Now, those traffickers are moving into production of crystal meth.
Authorities in British Columbia last year seized four working labs that
met the U.S. definition of a superlab, said Staff Sgt. Mike Harding of
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Harding estimated there also were
six chemical dump sites with enough meth waste to have come from
superlabs. ...

More on this story makes plain that meth isn't a "little" drug used by
housewivest to lose weight anymore. But oddly, long after that phase
ended, guess who the latest demographic of victims is topped by? Yep,
for some reason housewives are getting into meth like they got into
diet pills way back when.

We are in trouble with this drug.

My fear is that the SE Asians, Mexicans, and the Canadians producing
and distributing are working on hooking up. That could be paranoia on
my part 0:-, but then, even if they don't make meth cheaper and easier
to get by cooperating with each other, their two or three "businesses"
will compete the price down.

Cheaper illegal drugs in greater supply always result in an increase in
use, and of course, more deadly OD's.

I can see how mean and vicious you are, and always have been Greg, but
this seems to push the envelope just a tad, don't you think?

Or don't you think?

Were these stories just hype to get more money?

Kane


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Old December 17th 06, 06:44 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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0:- wrote:

Perhaps a group on CPS funding?

This is a support group for folks involved with CPS.

Your pet looney rants are off topic Don.
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Old December 17th 06, 08:39 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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joe wrote:
0:- wrote:

Perhaps a group on CPS funding?

This is a support group for folks involved with CPS.


Not entirely.

Your pet looney rants are off topic KANE.


Your pet loony rants are off topic.

As a support group for parents involved with CPS (which is only one of
it's functions -- and not a moderated group) it has been visited by
parents that are involved with CPS and METH!

And there are more out there all the time.

Meth is a very real problem for children and their parents. Ignoring or
minimizing it is very dangerous for both.

Speak to Greg about his doing so, along with other folks that have tried
that in the past.

http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugI...community.html



8/24/2005 1:49:23 PM
People often forget that meth hurts not just individuals, but families,
neighborhoods and entire communities. You might not be using meth or
know anyone who is - but it doesn't mean it's not affecting you. A meth
lab can operate unnoticed in any neighborhood for years, causing serious
health hazards to everyone around. Here are some ways that meth might
find its way into your life:

Environmental Harm: For each pound of meth produced, five to six pounds
of hazardous waste are generated, posing immediate and long-term
environmental health risks. The chemicals used to make meth are toxic,
and the lab operators routinely dump waste into streams, rivers, fields,
backyards and sewage systems, which can in turn contaminate water
resources for humans and animals. Also, the poisonous vapors produced
during cooking permeate the halls and carpets of houses and buildings,
often making them uninhabitable. Cleaning up these sites requires
specialized training and costs an average of $2,000-$4,000 per site in
funds that come out of the already-strained budgets of state and local
police. In addition, property owners are often held liable for the cost
of the cleanup, so if a rental landlord finds that his tenant has been
operating a meth lab on or in his property, or if a landowner finds that
a clandestine lab has property, he could face devastating financial issues.

Puts Children at Risk: Hundreds of children are neglected every year
after living with parents who are meth "cooks." Children who reside in
or near meth labs are at a great risk of being harmed in such a toxic
environment, due to the noxious fumes which can cause brain damage and
the explosive elements that go into making the drug. Cooking meth is
extremely dangerous, and labs often catch on fire and explode. A child
living inside could overdose from meth left out by parents, suffer from
attachment disorders or behavioral problems, be malnourished, physically
or sexually abused and/or burned or fatally injured from a fire or
explosion.

Orphaned Children: The number of foster care children has been rising
rapidly in states that have been hit by the meth scourge. Children are
taken from their parents who may have been using or making
methamphetamine, and placed in foster homes, crowding an already
overflowing system with limited resources. According to an article in
The New York Times, it has also become difficult to attract foster
parents for these children because they often have many behavior
problems. For example, they can't sleep at night since they are used to
sleeping on a floor and they often have not been toilet trained due to
the neglectful nature of their upbringing. This overwhelming influx of
cases has been suffocating social workers, leaving them desperate for help.

HIV/AIDS: On meth, users can feel hypersexual and uninhibited, often
forgetting to use protection. Also, since meth can be administered
intravenously some users opt for dirty needles. These acts of
carelessness can lead to the transmission of serious and deadly
diseases, such as hepatitis, HIV and AIDS.

Hospitals and Burn Units: Meth production is a dangerous and illegal
business that takes place in living spaces - from kitchens to basements
to hotel rooms. The materials that are used to produce the drug are
toxic and often flammable and any mistakes can result in an explosion or
injury to not just the meth cook, but their families as well. These
chemical burns are tough to treat, and extremely expensive. Much of the
care in these specialized units goes uncompensated, which puts a great
financial strain on the hospitals and state medical programs.

Crime: Meth labs along with the selling of the drug can breed crime,
including burglaries, thefts and even murder. Both teenagers and adults
addicted to the drug and who have no income to pay for their habit, may
steal valuables from their own homes or even their friends' homes. High
on meth, there's no telling what a person would do if provoked - people
have been killed for not owing up to a drug payment or coming through on
a transaction. This type of crime requires a great deal of attention
from the police, for which a town may not have the funding or the
resources to spare. ...

You might want to actually look at the problem you wish to ignore or
minimize.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Here's a little shot to the head from the child's point of view:

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/06/061...phetamine.html

Study elicits 'child's eye' view of methamphetamine abuse and its effects

Craig Chamberlain, News Editor
217-333-2894;

6/12/06

Part of the team involved in the ongoing University of Illinois research
project on methamphetamine use in seven Central Illinois counties:
(sitting) Teresa Ostler, professor of social work; (from left) Rebecca
Jones, retired DCFS professional supervising aspects of the project;
Anne Robertson, Kathryn Sheridan, Marcia Martinez and Ga-young Choi, all
doctoral students involved with the project; and Wendy Haight, professor
of social work and the lead researcher on the project. Missing from the
photo are study co-authors James Black, a psychiatrist with Southern
Illinois University School of Medicine, and Linda Kingery, a
child-welfare worker in the Charleston field office of DCFS.

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — The children’s stories are distressing: They had been
left alone and hungry for days, were physically abused, forced to get
high, told to steal from loved ones and to lie to authorities, and they
had seen their parents “hyper” and delusional.

They had been traumatized, many of them, but they had also been
resourceful and resilient. All had been taken from their rural homes and
were now in foster care, with some struggling to adjust and some doing
remarkably well.

They are the children of methamphetamine users, and they were the
subject of a study, apparently the first, to get a child’s-eye view of
what happens in these families and how it affects the children.

“We’re not aware of other studies that look at the effects of being
reared in a methamphetamine-involved family on children’s psychological
development,” said Wendy Haight, a professor of social work at the
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and the lead researcher.

The study will be published in the journal Children and Youth Services
Review (CYSR).

The aim of the study was to gather information that could help these
children and others like them in the often-difficult adjustment to
foster care and beyond, Haight said.

“We want to help foster parents understand more about what the child has
gone through,” said study co-author Teresa Ostler, a social work
professor at Illinois who specializes in clinical psychology. “A lot of
it involves experiences of trauma, where the child needs huge help in
putting things together and in making sense, in knowing that their
feelings have reasons.”

The study involved 18 children, ages 7-14, from 12 families. All were
involved with the child-welfare system because of their parents’
methamphetamine abuse. At the time of their interviews, they had been in
foster care anywhere from five to 39 months, with 15.6 months the average.

The central focus of the study were semi-structured interviews with each
child, conducted by a psychiatrist or child clinical psychologist, which
lasted about 30 minutes and were audiotaped. The interviews were then
transcribed and coded by other researchers to produce specific data.

Methamphetamine can have profound effects on the user, Haight said,
including extreme irritability, paranoia and heightened sexual arousal.
Users can go on days-long highs, followed by days of sleep. “These are
adults behaving in very unpredictable, dangerous ways, and the child is
there too,” she said.

In most of these families, parents also were making the drug, sometimes
involving their children in criminal behavior, and possibly exposing
some to toxic fumes and the danger of explosions or fires.

“Meth has such a rapid effect that you see parenting just break down
literally,” Ostler said. “Families change rapidly in that time and I
think that’s very terrifying for children,” she said.

Yet despite those conditions, the researchers found that when the
children were asked about “sad or scary times,” they talked first or
most often about the experience of losing their parents, even months
later, Haight said. “Most want desperately to be with their families and
feel a great deal of pain and grief over being separated from their
parents.”

Another complication is that some of these children had taken on the
role of caring for their parents, as well as younger siblings, when
their parents were under the influence. One child asked who would watch
over her mother when she was “sick,” Haight said. They also experience
emotional harm from the stigma of being the children of methamphetamine
users, many of whom face years in prison.

The children often also carry a strong distrust of authority figures,
passed on from their parents as a result of the criminal activity
involved, sometimes reinforced by a meth-induced paranoia. Some have
been actively socialized into a rural drug culture. “It becomes a huge
blockage” to intervention in some cases, Ostler said.

For children raised from an early age with their parents using
methamphetamine, even routine aspects of family life, like regular meal
and bed times, may represent “culture shock,” the authors say.

The researchers are using what they’ve learned from this study and
previous research to develop materials for use not only by foster
parents, but also by child-welfare workers and other professionals. “We
get more requests than we can accommodate from people just desperate for
some information,” Haight said.

They also are conducting weekly sessions, or interventions, in the
foster homes of the children who took part in the study, with support
from the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services. They are
working to develop a model in which local professionals are the ones
directly involved with the families, but with supervision from
university psychologists and psychiatrists.

As a result of the study, the researchers suggest that additional
resources and services, in particular mental health services, need to be
more accessible for these children and their foster parents.

Haight also pointed out that teachers in rural schools are often the
first to know and get involved when methamphetamine abuse comes into a
family, giving children everything from extra attention to food and
clothes. With additional funding, the schools could play a larger role,
she said.

Even with what many of these children have dealt with, Haight stressed
that they are not just passive victims. “Not only have they experienced
these horrible situations, but they survived, and you can’t help having
some respect for that,” she said. They responded in a variety of ways,
and were often very resourceful in the process, she said.

The study is part of an ongoing U. of I. research project, also led by
Haight, in seven Central Illinois counties (Clark, Coles, Cumberland,
Douglas, Edgar, Moultrie and Shelby). The counties are served by the
Charleston field office of DCFS, which is collaborating on the project.
The research was funded by an Arnold O. Beckman Award from the
University Research Board at Illinois.

Other co-authors of the study were James Black, a psychiatrist with the
Southern Illinois University School of Medicine in Springfield; Linda
Kingery, a child-welfare worker in the Charleston field office of DCFS;
and Kathryn Sheridan, a graduate student in social work.

The CYSR article, titled "A Child's-Eye View of Parent Methamphetamine
Abuse: Implications for Helping Foster Families to Succeed," is
currently "in press." An earlier study from the project was published in
the August 2005 issue of CYSR.






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http://ipath.gu.org/documents/A0/Met...inal_cover.pdf

.... More than 12 million Americans age 12 and over have tried meth at
least once in their lifetimes.10 The annual
number of new meth users has increased by 72% over the last decade and
currently exceeds the number of new
crack users. 11 In addition, the number of meth users who meet the
criteria for substance abuse doubled between
2002 and 2004 - from 27% to 59%. Of those who reported drug use in
the past month, 583,000 used meth. It
should be noted that despite the serious and significant increase in
meth use and abuse, alcohol, marijuana, and
cocaine abuse are still the most prevalent forms of substance abuse by
a significant margin.12
Despite its growing national prevalence, meth is still most pervasive
in the Midwest and the West. Although
commonly associated with rural areas,13 meth use has also spread to
large urban areas in recent years, including
Honolulu, Sacramento, San Diego, and Phoenix.14 Meth has also hit
certain racial and ethnic communities
particularly hard. It is estimated that American Indian/Alaska Natives
and Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islanders use
meth at two to three times the rate of Caucasians, although whites
still represent the greatest number of users.
African-Americans use meth at the lowest rate.15 ...

And this is the reason I advocate for attention to this plague, and a
broad attack across the entire front edge of it.

Your lies about seeking funding for CPS is just that.

....
To tell you the
truth, if I didn't
get help when I
did, I would be
dead. I've been
sober one and a
half years, and I've
never felt better. I
love myself again,
and the happiness
that I see in my
son's eyes is the
most amazing
feeling I could ever
have. That feeling
has taken meth's
place.
- MOTHER IN RECOVERY
FROM METH ADDICTION ...

Yer just a pimple on the ass of a knat, boy.

Kane

 




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