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This has been an interesting thread. Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. My older boy was the type who tires easily (later discovered a chronic infection, had the adenoids out, and suddenly had a very energetic child on my hands). He was only offered 1/2 day kindergarten, but we put him in daycare for the other 1/2 day for social reasons. He LOVED it. The morning was strictly academic, the afternoon more play-based, but with academic content and time to do their homework. (Yup, homework in kindergarten. What a waste of time ...) He never napped in daycare, but took advantage of the quiet time after lunch for the first couple of months. By the time my younger child entered kindergarten full-day was the only option. He was a very high-energy youngster. With full-day there was more social time built in, so instead of being at the desk all the time there was a lot of time for moving around, for recess, talking over lunch, and all that good stuff. He loved every second of it. I think that most kids can adapt to whatever environment they're put in. I suspect that the child's ability to "handle" a full-day vs. 1/2 day environment is really a red herring for most kids. However, the social issue is real. I'd put a child into whichever program has more social time, since that's what makes kids want to go to school. And if one program pays more attention to social/emotional development, go for it. That's what kindergarten used to be about, rather than academics, and I'm more and more convinced that social and emotional skills are what really NEED to be taught at that age. The academics just come along for the ride. My kids are now in 5th and 7th grades, both thriving in school despite being at the very young end of their respective classes. Your own mileage may vary, of course :-) --Beth Kevles -THE-COM-HERE http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would like me to reply. |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
(Beth Kevles) wrote: This has been an interesting thread. Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. I had an early November birthday in 1937, and at that time it was about the last date possible - if my mom had not been induced a week early, I would have had to wait a year. Just what were you induced with? Now, they use oxytocin (pitocin) which is a hormone that makes the uterus contract. It just surprises me that they were able to induce back then. That was like before WWII. Just curious. I don't really expect you to know. I mean, you weren't even born yet. ;-) Jeff |
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Jeff wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote: (Beth Kevles) wrote: This has been an interesting thread. Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. I had an early November birthday in 1937, and at that time it was about the last date possible - if my mom had not been induced a week early, I would have had to wait a year. Just what were you induced with? Now, they use oxytocin (pitocin) which is a hormone that makes the uterus contract. It just surprises me that they were able to induce back then. That was like before WWII. LOL Just curious. I don't really expect you to know. I mean, you weren't even born yet. ;-) Jeff Right. I don't know what they used then. My mom fell in the driveway (she said she turned her ankle and didn't faint but they didn't believe her and stuck her in the hospital because they thought she had pre-eclampsia). I do have a baby book where it is probably written down, but it isn't where I usually put it in the bookcase. I also have her diary of the time where she wrote that she didn't know how 'mama' (her grandmother who had 9 children) stood it (i.e. the pain at birth). When the nurse asked her what she was going to call me, she answered "You can call her cat-face for all I care". |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
Jeff wrote: Rosalie B. wrote: (Beth Kevles) wrote: This has been an interesting thread. Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. I had an early November birthday in 1937, and at that time it was about the last date possible - if my mom had not been induced a week early, I would have had to wait a year. Just what were you induced with? Now, they use oxytocin (pitocin) which is a hormone that makes the uterus contract. It just surprises me that they were able to induce back then. That was like before WWII. LOL Just curious. I don't really expect you to know. I mean, you weren't even born yet. ;-) Jeff Right. I don't know what they used then. My mom fell in the driveway (she said she turned her ankle and didn't faint but they didn't believe her and stuck her in the hospital because they thought she had pre-eclampsia). I do have a baby book where it is probably written down, but it isn't where I usually put it in the bookcase. I also have her diary of the time where she wrote that she didn't know how 'mama' (her grandmother who had 9 children) stood it (i.e. the pain at birth). When the nurse asked her what she was going to call me, she answered "You can call her cat-face for all I care". Gee, I popped out of my mom very fast. And, my father went to the bar afterwards. He had several Manhattans, but I suspect after the first, there a lot of added water. He hasn't stopped drinking since. Jeff |
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On Feb 10, 10:15�am, Jeff wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote: (Beth Kevles) wrote: This has been an interesting thread. � Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). �Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. I had an early November birthday in 1937, and at that time it was about the last date possible - if my mom had not been induced a week early, I would have had to wait a year. Just what were you induced with? Now, they use oxytocin (pitocin) which is a hormone that makes the uterus contract. It just surprises me that they were able to induce back then. That was like before WWII. Just curious. I don't really expect you to know. I mean, you weren't even born yet. ;-) Jeff "Oxytocin was the first of the reproductive hormones to be isolated from its organ of storage. In 1906 Sir Henry Dale mentioned that an extract of ox pituitary gland caused contraction of the feline uterus. An additional property of the posterior lobe, increased milk flow in lactating goats, was reported a few years later. By the end of the 1920s glandular preparations of oxytocin (pitocin) had reached the marketplace for induction of labor." http://uwyo.edu/wjm/repro/classica.htm There are also various mechanical ways of inducing labor -- I remember one method (which depends on the cervix already being somewhat dilated) involves inserting a balloon into the cervix and slowly filling it with saline or something. I forget what it's called. Aren't you glad you asked? :-) --Helen |
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On Feb 10, 10:15�am, Jeff wrote: Rosalie B. wrote: (Beth Kevles) wrote: This has been an interesting thread. � Both of my boys have late-summer birthdays (August and September). �Both started kindergarten the fall they turned 5, since it was clearly time for them to have more academic instruction than they got in nursery school. I had an early November birthday in 1937, and at that time it was about the last date possible - if my mom had not been induced a week early, I would have had to wait a year. Just what were you induced with? Now, they use oxytocin (pitocin) which is a hormone that makes the uterus contract. It just surprises me that they were able to induce back then. That was like before WWII. Just curious. I don't really expect you to know. I mean, you weren't even born yet. ;-) Jeff "Oxytocin was the first of the reproductive hormones to be isolated from its organ of storage. In 1906 Sir Henry Dale mentioned that an extract of ox pituitary gland caused contraction of the feline uterus. An additional property of the posterior lobe, increased milk flow in lactating goats, was reported a few years later. By the end of the 1920s glandular preparations of oxytocin (pitocin) had reached the marketplace for induction of labor." http://uwyo.edu/wjm/repro/classica.htm There are also various mechanical ways of inducing labor -- I remember one method (which depends on the cervix already being somewhat dilated) involves inserting a balloon into the cervix and slowly filling it with saline or something. I forget what it's called. Aren't you glad you asked? :-) --Helen Yeah, I am. Quite interesting. never knew why it was called oxytocin or pitocin (because it came from the pituitary). Now I know. Thanks. Jeff |
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