What I Saw in Target Today

In article , Dawn Lawson wrote:

Certainly slang will be picked up no matter what, but if the child grows
up KNOWING that there are penises, vaginas,breasts, etc etc, they'll be
less squicked out later about stuff like menstuation, etc. imo.

While we tend to use the proper words (I use "boob" only with my peers), I am
afraid that DS doesn't know the word "navel". If you are correct he will be
worried about belly button lint!

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"...children should continue to be breastfed... for up to two years of age
or beyond." -- Innocenti Declaration, Florence, 1 August 1990

In Hawaii, (and I believe in the spanish language as well) Chi-chi's are
slang for breasts.

Which gives the Mexican restaurant chain a whole new meaning. (Makes them
comparable to Hooters, perhaps?)


Naomi
CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator

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reply.)

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OSPAM (Naomi Pardue) wrote:


(Sorry, but this is a real peeve of mine... why must people refer to

them as

'boobs' and 'tits', rather than 'breasts?' Doesn't exactly help with the
acceptance factor...)

Dunno about your part of the world, but here, we all have boobs. We only

have

breasts at the doctor's.

It's called 'Mum-Mum-milk' by the consumer at our house, and he thinks the
vending machines are called 'Mum-Mums'.

I will agree with you that 'tit' is very unattractive, but 'boob' has a

nice

rounded sort of look and sound...



I think Booby is fine. I can't imagine a child saying "I want your tit".
People would definitely stare. All my kids call it a booby or bubby to the
baby. It's just like saying poopy, or pee pee for penis, or chi chi for
pacifier, or nuny for night night. The are all more appropriate for kids.
Kris




I don't think Naomi or Chookie was advocating teaching your child to
say, "I want your tit" either. How about "I want to nurse" or "I want
milk"?

And I wouldn't be teaching my children to say pee pee for penis, or chi
chi for pacifier, or nuny for night night. I'd say penis, pacifier,
and good night.

Clisby

"Naomi Pardue" wrote in message
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In Hawaii, (and I believe in the spanish language as well) Chi-chi's are
slang for breasts.

Which gives the Mexican restaurant chain a whole new meaning. (Makes them
comparable to Hooters, perhaps?)

I read somewhere that Chi-Chi's creator named the place for his wife's
nickname, and yup, it had something to do with her breasts. Nice, huh?

Jan
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"Chookie" wrote in message
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BTW we *never* use "nurse" as a euphemism for bfing. When we nurse
babies, we
cuddle and rock them. The only euphemism I have heard is "Are you feeding
him
yourself?" and that is only in the 70+ set. The rest of us call it bfing.


Nurse would be used in the same context here too, 'feeding him
yourself/myself' would be quite popular IMO. I was even asked that at the
hospital by midwives.
In relation to tits and b00bs.........tits would be a crude way (though not
X-rated!) and b00bs would be more mainstream. My kids calls them b00bies or
beep-beeps! That's what my mother always called her own :-)

--
Marie
Mum of 3
DD born 03/98, DS1 born 11/99 DS2 born 08/03

I think Booby is fine. I can't imagine a child saying "I want your tit".
People would definitely stare. All my kids call it a booby or bubby to the
baby. It's just like saying poopy, or pee pee for penis, or chi chi for
pacifier, or nuny for night night. The are all more appropriate for kids.
Kris

See, to me, boob is among the words I hardly heard until fifth or sixth grade.
The kind of thing you hear when you have to run the gantlet of jeering kids by
the lockers. I know of course that most people use it as you do, and mean no
harm by it, but my associations are different, so it wouldn't come at all
naturally to me to teach my kids to say "boob".

Never heard chi chi for pacifier! I don't even know how to pronounce it.

--Helen

Regina Diacopoulos wrote:
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Chookie writes

"Boob" is insulting where you live? OK, here is the difference where
I am:

DS is on the boob at the moment. Rude builders labourers shout "Show
us yer
tits!"

DH says "Baps" as in "Show us yer baps woman!" Charming.

ROTFLMAO!!

Mayhap I'm just TOO tired, but THAT is funny. Sorry, I know, annoying
from DH, but brain running on idle, and can't shake image of dusty oddly
shaped asymetrical blobs flashed from under shirt. (tho you'd think
that was too close to home to be funny to me.....)

Dawn

"Naomi Pardue" wrote in message
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Perhaps its a cultural thing .... in Australia (at least where I'm from),
"boob/s" is pretty a common term. Its not baby talk as most adults I
know
use that term.

Right. I think it's pretty COMMON in the states, and commonly used among
adults. I've just never thought of it as being particularly "polite".
It's a
term that might be used in the bedroom, or among a group of close
girlfriends,
but not in "polite" conversation. (And, FWIW, given that the OP in this
post
was talking about a stranger she saw in a store, IMO, a more "polite" term
would have been more appropriate.)
But yeah, I'm one of the older generation that someone else (forget who...
must
be because I'm older ) was talking about. I'm also 42.

I know that all my SILs and many friends also referred to
theirs as "boobs" with their kids. As Chookie joked, we only say
"breast"
when we are talking to the Dr as it seems so formal and clinical).

A bit, perhaps. But, OTOH, since we are talking about breastfeeding, (and,
specifically about a STRANGER who is breastfeeding, why *not* be a bit
formal
about it?)
As far as termininology goes, IME, if you want to be "formal" and "polite"
but
not medical, the term is "bust." Otherwise, "breast" serves all purposes
nicely, offends no-one (well... almost no-one). And you can even use it to
talk
about chickens!

See now that's why I think its a cultural thing ... we Aussies generally
aren't too keen on the formal banter. Its just *not* the done thing. The
only time we really want to be formal about things actually *is* when we are
at the Drs ... or in the case in question, at the Drs and at professional
fittings at the bra shop. We expect medical professionals to use the
'correct' term, but that's about all ... in anyone else (aside from your
Nana) it would be considered a bit "stuck-up". .... in my experience anyway.

As another example, in Australia if you have just met a bunch of people and
they immediately "pay out" on you (use you as the butt of a joke) you know
that you'll be mates for life. ... whereas in other cultures "paying out" on
a new aquaintance might be considered a bit rude.

Cheers
Amanda

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In article ,
OSPAM (Naomi Pardue) wrote:

(Sorry, but this is a real peeve of mine... why must people refer to
them as
'boobs' and 'tits', rather than 'breasts?' Doesn't exactly help with
the
acceptance factor...)

Dunno about your part of the world, but here, we all have boobs. We
only
have
breasts at the doctor's.

We have always called them boobs, boobies, or chi-chi's even growing up.
that could just be that my parents had 3 girls then a boy.OTOH I can't seem
to recall my dad ever saying boob, boobies, or even breast for that matter.
He and my brother always left the room or looked like they were ultra
engrossed in something else when we would talk about boobs.

It's called 'Mum-Mum-milk' by the consumer at our house, and he thinks
the
vending machines are called 'Mum-Mums'.
DH has always called it the milk machine (He also likes to call me the
baby-machine or baby factory) In front of other people we say "does he
need/want me?" or "honey, he needs/wants you!" At home it's always, "He
needs/wants a boob."

I will agree with you that 'tit' is very unattractive, but 'boob' has
a
nice
rounded sort of look and sound...


I think Booby is fine. I can't imagine a child saying "I want your
tit".

I have heard this only once in conjunction with BFing. A few months ago we
had a large family event at my grandma's house and a male cousin of mine who
is some big officer in the marines was completely shocked that I had
"flopped my tit out and stuck a baby on it", I explained to him that it
doesn't bother me therefore it should not bother him. By the end of the
visit he was calling my baby "his little tit man".

People would definitely stare. All my kids call it a booby or bubby to
the
baby. It's just like saying poopy, or pee pee for penis, or chi chi for
pacifier, or nuny for night night. The are all more appropriate for
kids.
Kris
Do you also say tju-tju for train, moo-moo for cow and honk-honk for car?


I suppose you can have your toddler start saying defecate instead of poopy


And how long do you continue with the baby words?

I forbid my MIL to tell my daughter that a dog was a bow-wow and a cat a
kitty. I like the right words - the ones that sound neutral in your
specific
surroundings. (Luckily I have the courage to forbid her certain things and
be sure she respects (or rather: does as I say) them)

Tine, Denmark

Sometimes children change the names of things to make it more familiar and
easier for them. I am not an advocate for baby talk, it is important to say
the correct words for things, however if a child has his own term for
something so what. So if you think a child should only use proper terms in
their vocabulary, does that mean that they should call their parents
"Mother" and "Father" as opposed to "Mommy" and "Daddy" or "Mama" and
"Dada". Well I guess that would mean they would only have a grandmother, not
a gramma or nana. Does this apply to names also; "No, No, honey, you may not
call that little girl Nikki, her correct name is Nicole." Maybe it is just
where you live, but where I am from pet names and the like are quite common
and not considered baby talk. I would consider baby talk to be "does the
wittle itty teeny baba wanna wittle bita milk, I tink the wittle baba do, I
tink he do, dontcha?" That is a little absurd.

K.B. wrote:

I think Booby is fine. I can't imagine a child saying "I want your tit".
People would definitely stare. All my kids call it a booby or bubby to the
baby. It's just like saying poopy, or pee pee for penis, or chi chi for
pacifier, or nuny for night night. The are all more appropriate for kids.
Kris


Like Clisby, I told my child to say "I want to nurse" when she wanted to
nurse. I discouraged nicknames for breastfeeding - "nursing" already is
a euphemism and having a euphemism for a euphemism is kind of silly.

For penis, pacifier and night night, we say penis, pacifier and
good-night. I also taught my daughter vagina and clitoris instead of
whatever the euphemisms are (I don't even know).

Yes, she got some words wrong and it was cute, but we never really said
them back to her.

Jeanne