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On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : prevent bacterial decomposition." Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical use as food preservatives. As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon was denied approval by the FDA because; as a recent Italian study confirmed ; it was liked to an increased risk of tumors. It was never approved by the FDA advisory committee , the actual scientist at the FDA who recommended against it's approval. The FDA commissioner appointed ;Don Rumsfield was in the apparently used his influence; overruled his own scientist and order its approval. For the FDA commissioner to ignore it,s own experts is almost unheard of. The commissioner than left the FDA and went to work well you know where .. That's the way good science is subject to politics and economics. I expect you understand that fact all to well. Thanks Vince |
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In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." |
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On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry. When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally manifest? ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." |
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"Richard Schultz" wrote in message ... In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." so f...ing what? While you show off about your chemical degrees, how come you aint smart enough to see aspartame is a poison and shouldn't be in foods? Would that be professional ignorance? |
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In misc.health.alternative The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
: When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally : manifest? If you consume enough Aspartame, the acid in your stomach will convert enough of the methyl ester to methanol for it to be a problem. I once calculated how much that would be (assuming that the "do not take more than X mg/kg body weight per day" warning on the bottle was due to the possibility of methanol poisoning) and it came out to something on the order of tens of liters a day of Aspartame-sweetened drinks. As for me, I drink mostly water and fruit juice. ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad." |
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On Jul 8, 12:42 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative The One True Zhen Jue wrote: : When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally : manifest? If you consume enough Aspartame, the acid in your stomach will convert enough of the methyl ester to methanol for it to be a problem. I once calculated how much that would be (assuming that the "do not take more than X mg/kg body weight per day" warning on the bottle was due to the possibility of methanol poisoning) and it came out to something on the order of tens of liters a day of Aspartame-sweetened drinks. As for me, I drink mostly water and fruit juice. Exactly. Its not going to be a problem unless consumed in mass quantities....Conehead style! Splenda is even less likely to be a problem, a person would have to consume ridiculous amounts to be harmful, 5000+ packets a day! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splenda Concerns have been raised about the effect of sucralose on the thymus, an organ that is important to the immune system. A report from NICNAS cites two studies on rats, both of which found "a significant decrease in mean thymus weight" at a certain dose.[12] The sucralose dosages which caused the thymus gland effects referenced in the NICNAS report was 3000 mg/kg bw/day for 28 days. For an 80 kg (176 lb) human, this would mean a 28-day intake of 240 grams of sucralose, which is equivalent to more than 20,000 individual Splenda packets/day for approximately one month. The dose required to provoke any immunological response was 750 mg/kg bw/day,[13] or 60 grams of sucralose per day, which is more than 5,000 Splenda packets/day (there are 11.9 mg of sucralose in a 1g retail packet of Splenda). These and other studies were considered by regulators before concluding that sucralose was safe. However, because some ingested sucralose is broken down and absorbed by the body there is concern that chronic consumption may lead to thymus shrinkage or other side-effects. ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad." |
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"Richard Schultz" wrote in message ... As for me, I drink mostly water and fruit juice. That says it all |
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The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote: In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry. When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally manifest? Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would make you blind. Where are all those blind people? |
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In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:
: : "Richard Schultz" wrote in message : ... : : As for me, I drink mostly water and fruit juice. : That says it all Are you suggesting that there are healthier things to drink? ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- ". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter." -- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_ |
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"Richard Schultz" wrote in message ... In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "Richard Schultz" wrote in message : ... : : As for me, I drink mostly water and fruit juice. : That says it all Are you suggesting that there are healthier things to drink? in your case a nice mixture of thimerosol and aspartame, preferably injected into your smartass I love you pharma pimps, you go on about how OK poison is to drink then you say you never touch it yourself. |
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