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We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS
Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national and international issues. Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow, kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the use of corporal punishment that, despite the high number that end up with injured children and a CPS case, "parents know best." That's like claiming that trash burners know best when it's too hot to light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest fires, and abused children to disprove both claims...and here's another one for you, including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend. There's other of our favorite elements as well: The Mandated Reporter, the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that tried to hide it. Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing her children, but if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she would have "lost" of course, as she should have) she'd have kept her children. Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers 7/26/05 Print this story Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions By Jeff Lehr Globe Staff Writer A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old man guilty on two counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden paddle inappropriately and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age boys left in his care. The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave., was conducted in a single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin. Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care provider spotted bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K. Tinsley, 26, 316 N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty training. The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a child-abuse investigation was launched involving the Children's Division of the Missouri Department of Social Services. "I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on the potty, and it made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette Brock testified Monday. She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off on weekdays for about two months at the day-care business she operated at that time at 2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises on April 1, 2004. That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the boys off on Monday and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again Thursday, which was April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the previous day in potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises that day, she said. But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that week that one of the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on toys while playing, and that she need not be concerned with it. She told the court that she had no reason at that time to suspect any child abuse, and she did not check the boys. But Brock said that when she saw the extent and severity of the bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as a mandatory child-abuse reporter under state law. The state called four other witnesses, including Tinsley, to the stand Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had developed Still as a suspect and elicited a confession from him. Tinsley told the court that she had been late for work and unable to drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place on Monday, March 29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in boyfriend and the father of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch them since he had recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was unemployed. She said she had an appointment after she got off work at McDonald's in Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get home until about 5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that he had left the boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night school. She said she did not notice anything wrong with the boys until their bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks were red with spots of blue forming. She testified that she confronted Still about it when he got home from night school. "He said they were roughhousing and had their toys all over the place and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley testified. She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and she feared losing custody of her children if the bruises were discovered by someone else. So she told him he would have to watch the boys until the bruises went away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care provider what the provider testified she had said about just the one boy having a bruise. Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on a number of points, including her own disciplining of the boys and whether she had been cooperative with the investigation early on. Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she had spanked the boys herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She also acknowledged that she had been having trouble potty-training the boys and had felt frustration from time to time, but she denied spanking them on Monday or Tuesday of the week in question. Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police Department testified that Still had confessed to striking the boys several times with a wooden paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her home and with his hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for fighting and making too much noise while his daughter was sleeping. "He said that he had busted their butts with a paddle, a board," Gayman testified. Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the boys' bedroom three times to discipline them, and that he swatted them with the paddle four to five times altogether and at least one more time each with his hand. The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The defense called Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone witness in an effort to dispute the state's case. Aston testified that she had been with Still at Tinsley's home on the day in question and had not seen him spank the boys with the paddle. Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on cross-examination why she had not come forward with this information until only recently, and why she had never gone to police since it might clear Still of the charge. She answered that she had not known what was going on in the case until only recently, but that she remembered being with Still on the Monday before April Fool's Day last year. The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty on two counts of child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence investigation and set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being prosecuted as a persistent offender based on two prior convictions for passing bad checks.... http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517 |
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We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS
Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national and international issues. Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow, kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the use of corporal punishment that, despite the high number that end up with injured children and a CPS case, "parents know best." That's like claiming that trash burners know best when it's too hot to light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest fires, and abused children to disprove both claims...and here's another one for you, including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend. There's other of our favorite elements as well: The Mandated Reporter, the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that tried to hide it. Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing her children, but if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she would have "lost" of course, as she should have) she'd have kept her children. Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers 7/26/05 Print this story Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions By Jeff Lehr Globe Staff Writer A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old man guilty on two counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden paddle inappropriately and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age boys left in his care. The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave., was conducted in a single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin. Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care provider spotted bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K. Tinsley, 26, 316 N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty training. The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a child-abuse investigation was launched involving the Children's Division of the Missouri Department of Social Services. "I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on the potty, and it made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette Brock testified Monday. She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off on weekdays for about two months at the day-care business she operated at that time at 2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises on April 1, 2004. That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the boys off on Monday and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again Thursday, which was April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the previous day in potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises that day, she said. But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that week that one of the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on toys while playing, and that she need not be concerned with it. She told the court that she had no reason at that time to suspect any child abuse, and she did not check the boys. But Brock said that when she saw the extent and severity of the bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as a mandatory child-abuse reporter under state law. The state called four other witnesses, including Tinsley, to the stand Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had developed Still as a suspect and elicited a confession from him. Tinsley told the court that she had been late for work and unable to drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place on Monday, March 29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in boyfriend and the father of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch them since he had recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was unemployed. She said she had an appointment after she got off work at McDonald's in Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get home until about 5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that he had left the boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night school. She said she did not notice anything wrong with the boys until their bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks were red with spots of blue forming. She testified that she confronted Still about it when he got home from night school. "He said they were roughhousing and had their toys all over the place and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley testified. She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and she feared losing custody of her children if the bruises were discovered by someone else. So she told him he would have to watch the boys until the bruises went away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care provider what the provider testified she had said about just the one boy having a bruise. Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on a number of points, including her own disciplining of the boys and whether she had been cooperative with the investigation early on. Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she had spanked the boys herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She also acknowledged that she had been having trouble potty-training the boys and had felt frustration from time to time, but she denied spanking them on Monday or Tuesday of the week in question. Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police Department testified that Still had confessed to striking the boys several times with a wooden paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her home and with his hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for fighting and making too much noise while his daughter was sleeping. "He said that he had busted their butts with a paddle, a board," Gayman testified. Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the boys' bedroom three times to discipline them, and that he swatted them with the paddle four to five times altogether and at least one more time each with his hand. The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The defense called Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone witness in an effort to dispute the state's case. Aston testified that she had been with Still at Tinsley's home on the day in question and had not seen him spank the boys with the paddle. Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on cross-examination why she had not come forward with this information until only recently, and why she had never gone to police since it might clear Still of the charge. She answered that she had not known what was going on in the case until only recently, but that she remembered being with Still on the Monday before April Fool's Day last year. The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty on two counts of child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence investigation and set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being prosecuted as a persistent offender based on two prior convictions for passing bad checks.... http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517 |
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Kane: Well, bobber, whaddahthink? Obviously the boys weren't coerced. Drugged and plied with alcohol of course, but not coerced. Give us the gift of your wisdom on this one. 0:- Mom Pleads Guilty to Hosting Sex Parties Mon Jul 25, 6:29 PM ET GOLDEN, Colo. - A woman who told police she wanted to be a "cool mom" pleaded guilty to sexual assault charges Monday for having sex with high school boys at parties where authorities said she supplied drugs and alcohol. ADVERTISEMENT Silvia Johnson, 40, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of sexual assault and nine felony counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. As part of a plea agreement, prosecutors dropped two counts of distribution of methamphetamine. "She described herself as a `cool mom,'" Detective R.J. Vander Veen wrote in the affidavit. He said Johnson told investigators "she was never popular with classmates in high school and now began `feeling like one of the group.'" Prosecutors did not recommend a sentence, but each sexual assault count carries up to two years in prison, and each count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor carries up to six years, district attorney's spokeswoman Pam Russell said. Johnson, who is free on bail, held parties for the boys almost weekly between October 2003 and October 2004, authorities said. She was accused of providing drugs and alcohol to eight boys and having sex with five of them. Police said the investigation began after one of the boys told his mother about the encounters, and she reported it to authorities. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._sex_parties_2 |
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wrote in message oups.com... We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national and international issues. Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow, kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the use of corporal punishment that, despite the high number that end up with injured children and a CPS case, "parents know best." That's like claiming that trash burners know best when it's too hot to light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest fires, and abused children to disprove both claims...and here's another one for you, including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend. There's other of our favorite elements as well: The Mandated Reporter, the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that tried to hide it. Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing her children, but if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she would have "lost" of course, as she should have) she'd have kept her children. Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers 7/26/05 Print this story Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions By Jeff Lehr Globe Staff Writer A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old man guilty on two counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden paddle inappropriately and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age boys left in his care. The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave., was conducted in a single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin. Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care provider spotted bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K. Tinsley, 26, 316 N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty training. The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a child-abuse investigation was launched involving the Children's Division of the Missouri Department of Social Services. "I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on the potty, and it made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette Brock testified Monday. She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off on weekdays for about two months at the day-care business she operated at that time at 2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises on April 1, 2004. That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the boys off on Monday and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again Thursday, which was April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the previous day in potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises that day, she said. But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that week that one of the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on toys while playing, and that she need not be concerned with it. She told the court that she had no reason at that time to suspect any child abuse, and she did not check the boys. But Brock said that when she saw the extent and severity of the bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as a mandatory child-abuse reporter under state law. The state called four other witnesses, including Tinsley, to the stand Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had developed Still as a suspect and elicited a confession from him. Tinsley told the court that she had been late for work and unable to drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place on Monday, March 29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in boyfriend and the father of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch them since he had recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was unemployed. She said she had an appointment after she got off work at McDonald's in Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get home until about 5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that he had left the boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night school. She said she did not notice anything wrong with the boys until their bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks were red with spots of blue forming. She testified that she confronted Still about it when he got home from night school. "He said they were roughhousing and had their toys all over the place and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley testified. She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and she feared losing custody of her children if the bruises were discovered by someone else. So she told him he would have to watch the boys until the bruises went away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care provider what the provider testified she had said about just the one boy having a bruise. Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on a number of points, including her own disciplining of the boys and whether she had been cooperative with the investigation early on. Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she had spanked the boys herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She also acknowledged that she had been having trouble potty-training the boys and had felt frustration from time to time, but she denied spanking them on Monday or Tuesday of the week in question. Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police Department testified that Still had confessed to striking the boys several times with a wooden paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her home and with his hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for fighting and making too much noise while his daughter was sleeping. "He said that he had busted their butts with a paddle, a board," Gayman testified. Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the boys' bedroom three times to discipline them, and that he swatted them with the paddle four to five times altogether and at least one more time each with his hand. The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The defense called Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone witness in an effort to dispute the state's case. Aston testified that she had been with Still at Tinsley's home on the day in question and had not seen him spank the boys with the paddle. Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on cross-examination why she had not come forward with this information until only recently, and why she had never gone to police since it might clear Still of the charge. She answered that she had not known what was going on in the case until only recently, but that she remembered being with Still on the Monday before April Fool's Day last year. The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty on two counts of child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence investigation and set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being prosecuted as a persistent offender based on two prior convictions for passing bad checks.... http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517 |
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wrote in message oups.com... We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS Kane's SPEWING on child protection issues, national and international issues AND OTHER ARCANE STUPIDITY TO SHOW OFF HE KNOWS HOW TO TYPE WITH ONE HAND. Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow, kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest claims imaginable. KANERS DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY MEET CLONES; IT IRRITATES IT. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Kane's Komments Kane: Well, bobber, whaddahthink? Obviously the boys weren't coerced. Drugged and plied with alcohol of course, but not coerced. AS IF IT REALLY CARED, EH FOLKS? BECAUSE IT CAN FIND THE KEYBOARD IT THINKS EVERYONE MUST WANT TO USE IT. WHAT A PHONEY! IT EVEN GETS OFF ON READING ITS OWN WORDS. |
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Kane: That old boy friend number yet again. And a very good reason to check up on who you leave with your children.....seems he had shaken his 7 week old son to death sometime in the past. Nice guy. Ex-Felon Arrested In Child Abuse Case POSTED: 2:55 pm CDT July 26, 2005 BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- An ex-felon is in the Jefferson County Jail Tuesday charged with child sex abuse. Sheriff's investigators arrested 35-year-old Robert Burson on charges he abused two children under the age of 12. Authorities said the children were the four and five years old daughters of two women who live together and allowed Burson to sometimes stay at the residence..... http://www.nbc13.com/news/4771842/detail.html Kane: This next one is tailor made for brilliant bobber. Seems it's a heresay case but the appellant lost. Maybe bobber thinks he should have killed her and saved himself all this trouble. Posted on Tue, Jul. 26, 2005 Miss. Appeals Court upholds child abuse conviction Associated Press JACKSON, Miss. - The state Court of Appeals has upheld the conviction of Gregory Glen Elkins, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2003 in Oktibbeha County for fondling a child. Authorities said Elkins was indicted for the alleged molestation of the 14-year-old girl over a four-year period beginning in 1996. Elkins was arrested by Starkville police in 2002 after the girl's mother filed a report and the victim was interviewed....... http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...s/12227490.htm |
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DROOLED in message oups.com... Kane's CLOSED MINDED Komments AIMED AT AN ARGUEMENT Kane DRIZZLED : That old boy friend number yet again. And a very good reason to check up on who you leave with your children.....seems he had shaken his 7 week old son to death sometime in the past. Nice guy. Ex-Felon Arrested In Child Abuse Case POSTED: 2:55 pm CDT July 26, 2005 BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- An ex-felon is in the Jefferson County Jail Tuesday .... |
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