Unvaccinated children healthier

"Jeff" wrote in message

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"Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached
all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and
Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway,
feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its
side."----Goethe



http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Wrong. Chickpox killed a lot of kids. Chicken pox attacks the brain in
about 1 in 1000 cases. And a lot of kids get infected from scratching at
their lesions.


Lies http://www.whale.to/v/chicken1.html


Yes, they are for natural herbs and nutrients, but yours kill 120,000
every year in the USA alone

If that's what you think.

Know http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html



In fact I don't know of any herb or nutrient deaths under professional
herbal or nutritional MD supervision

Of course you don't. These people just blame the disease or real doctors
for the deaths. Like, it was the chemotherapy that killed them, even
though the patient didn't have chemo for 12 months.

There aren't any, you allopaths would have found them if there were

Chemo kills about 300,000 every year give or take a few hundred thousand

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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You have yet to show that the tiny amount of thimerosal in vaccines has
any negative effects.

"I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically
overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person
with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal
wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley
by Teri Small: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html

You can repeat Haley's crap until you are blue in the face, but that doesn't
make it true.

Have a lovely day.

I am, but the 500,000 vaccine autism victims and their families may not
be having such a great one

Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have died
from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number is in
the millions.

JEff

cheers


"Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached
all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press
and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds
sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on
its side."----Goethe

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Wrong. Chickpox killed a lot of kids. Chicken pox attacks the brain in
about 1 in 1000 cases. And a lot of kids get infected from scratching at
their lesions.


Lies http://www.whale.to/v/chicken1.html

You can paste your lies as much as you want to, but the reality of the
matter is that chicken pox was taking lives for years and years. As long as
chicken pox has been around.

And this pages confirms that.

Jeff


Yes, they are for natural herbs and nutrients, but yours kill 120,000
every year in the USA alone

If that's what you think.

Know http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html



In fact I don't know of any herb or nutrient deaths under professional
herbal or nutritional MD supervision

Of course you don't. These people just blame the disease or real doctors
for the deaths. Like, it was the chemotherapy that killed them, even
though the patient didn't have chemo for 12 months.

There aren't any, you allopaths would have found them if there were

Chemo kills about 300,000 every year give or take a few hundred thousand

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message

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"Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached
all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press
and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds
sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on
its side."----Goethe



http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html

I thought you said "******** deleted." With the above site, you put it back
in.

There is no evidence that vaccines cause autism and much to suggest that it
does. Get a clue.

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html

More lies. Last year, a 13-year old boy died form measles. Most of the
decline in deaths was due to better living conditions, but measles still
kills about 1 in 2000 victims, even with the best of treatment.

Jeff

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One of my kids had it at pre-school, and passed it on to their sibling:
there were several other cases within that pre-school.


I think my last son had it. I got it when I was 8 or so.

Tilden was the father of natural healing http://www.whale.to/a/tilden2.html

and natural healers like him never lost a patient to measles, so chickenpox
wouldn't be a problem

"I have myself, through Natural Hygiene, over 16 years, treated all forms
and hundreds of cases of typhus and typhoid fevers, pneumonia's, measles and
dysentery's, and have not lost a single patient. The same is true of scarlet
and other fevers. No medicine whatever was given."----Dr Trall, 1862.
http://www.whale.to/v/trall2.html

and the drug system is killing more now than it ever did in the hayday of
compulsory smallpox vaccination, although it was mostly kids then, 25,000 a
year in the UK.

"The Drug Medical System cannot bear examination. To explain it would be to
destroy it, and to defend it even is to damage it."---R.T. Trall M.D.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have
died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That number
is in the millions.


Millions? Complete ********

90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit
http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their children
died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella jab, the
Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html

and measles deaths are just BAD medicine
"Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become
disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions should
be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB

and the billion or so paid out to vaccine victims is just the VERY TIP of
the iceberg
http://www.whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html
[1880] That since Vaccination has been rendered obligatory, infantile
syphilis (under one year old) has been increased in England, according to a
Parliamentary return, dated February 25th, 1880, from 472 per million of
births in 1847, to 1,736 per million in 1877, or fourfold; and that other
inoculable diseases, such as pyaemia, scrofula, erysipelas, and bronchitis,
were also augmented in infants. In England, the increase of inoculable
diseases was 20 per cent., notwithstanding an expenditure of 200 millions
sterling since 1850 in sanitary works. Another Parliamentary return (No.
443, Session 1877) demonstrates that 25,000 babies are yearly sacrificed by
diseases excited by Vaccination. International Anti-Vaccination League
points against vaccination 1880

[1921] There are no adequate statistics showing these fatalities, but it may
be estimated that in England and Wales no fewer than 6,000 Infants are
Killed every Year by Vaccination. This is perhaps the least part of the
damage. The Great Damage is that caused to Teeth, Eyesight and Constitution,
by the illness of vaccinia forced upon the infant at the most critical and
delicate period of its life. [1921] Vaccination and the State By Arnold
Lupton MP.

"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have
died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That
number is in the millions.


Millions? Complete ********

90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit
http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

There are vaccines that prevent more than measles. Vaccines prevent illness
and death from measles, chicken-pox, polio, mumps, rubella, diptheria,
tetanus, purtussis, hib pneumonia and menigitis, smallpox and other
illnesses.

and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their
children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella
jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html

Although I am sorry that these kids died, their is nothing on this page that
indicates that the deaths were really caused by vaccines.

and measles deaths are just BAD medicine
"Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become
disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions
should be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB

Some do, about 1 in 2000. The virus spreads to the brain. Measles also
causes deafness.

and the billion or so paid out to vaccine victims is just the VERY TIP of
the iceberg
http://www.whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html
[1880] That since Vaccination has been rendered obligatory, infantile
syphilis (under one year old) has been increased in England, according to
a Parliamentary return, dated February 25th, 1880, from 472 per million of
births in 1847, to 1,736 per million in 1877, or fourfold; and that other
inoculable diseases, such as pyaemia, scrofula, erysipelas, and
bronchitis, were also augmented in infants. In England, the increase of
inoculable diseases was 20 per cent., notwithstanding an expenditure of
200 millions sterling since 1850 in sanitary works. Another Parliamentary
return (No. 443, Session 1877) demonstrates that 25,000 babies are yearly
sacrificed by diseases excited by Vaccination. International
Anti-Vaccination League points against vaccination 1880

[1921] There are no adequate statistics showing these fatalities, but it
may be estimated that in England and Wales no fewer than 6,000 Infants are
Killed every Year by Vaccination. This is perhaps the least part of the
damage. The Great Damage is that caused to Teeth, Eyesight and
Constitution, by the illness of vaccinia forced upon the infant at the
most critical and delicate period of its life. [1921] Vaccination and the
State By Arnold Lupton MP.

These quotes are before today's vaccines. That is like saying that cars from
the 1920s are involved in car crashes because their brakes failed,
therefore, we shouldn't use modern cars.

Get a clue.

Jeff

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"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Actually, the number is 0. And a lot of kids and adults who would have
died from vaccine-preventable diseaess are having a great day. That
number is in the millions.


Millions? Complete ********

90 (NINETY) kids dying before measles vax came in and took all the credit
http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

There are vaccines that prevent more than measles. Vaccines prevent
illness and death from measles, chicken-pox, polio, mumps, rubella,
diptheria, tetanus, purtussis, hib pneumonia and menigitis, smallpox and
other illnesses.

and then started its own killing! AT LEAST 26 families claim their
children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella
jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.html

Although I am sorry that these kids died, their is nothing on this page
that indicates that the deaths were really caused by vaccines.

and measles deaths are just BAD medicine
"Under normal conditions, healthy children do not die from or become
disabled from the complications of measles and if they do, questions
should be asked about their management." ---Jayne Donegan MB

Some do, about 1 in 2000. The virus spreads to the brain. Measles also
causes deafness.

And congenital rubella syndrome, a huge tragedy, has become almost unheard
of, thanks to vaccination:

The number of reported cases of CRS in the United States has declined 96%

from 77 cases in 1970 to 3 cases in 2001.1-3 Two of the three infants with
CRS

reported in 2001 had foreign-born mothers. Between 1990 and 2001, 121 cases

of confirmed CRS were reported to the National Congenital Rubella Syndrome

Registry. Of the 118 cases with known import status between 1990 and 2001,

33 (28%) were imported.

Despite routine rubella vaccination among children, some rubella outbreaks

continue in the U.S. These outbreaks are primarily confined to groups who

traditionally refuse vaccinations and to adults from countries without a
history of

or with recently established routine rubella vaccination programs.
Throughout

the 1990s, the majority of infants with CRS were infants of mothers who fall
into

these categories.

Though rubella cases are at record-low levels in the United States, rubella
and

CRS continue to be global burdens. It is estimated that there are more than

110,000 cases of CRS annually throughout the world. With the increased use
of

rubella vaccine; however, the burden of rubella infection should decrease in
the

future. As of April, 2000, 52% of countries use rubella vaccine in their
national

programs.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/...12_rub_crs.pdf

"JOHN" wrote:


"Jeff" wrote in message
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You have yet to show that the tiny amount of thimerosal in vaccines has
any negative effects.

"I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically
overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person
with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal
wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley
by Teri Small: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html

So we can expect Boyd Haley to come out and say that Andrew Wakefield
is "a very foolish or a very dishonest person" any day now.




Have a lovely day.

I am, but the 500,000 vaccine autism victims and their families may not be
having such a great one

cheers


"Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached
all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and
Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway,
feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its
side."----Goethe

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