Hey Fern! Please go into detail...

On 15 Jan 2004 21:31:49 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 15 Jan 2004 04:09:47 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote:

Kane wrote
There are only so many experts on this issue so they'd be bound
to
use
one more than once...immediately creating the situation you
THINK
is
taking place...a "relationship" of profit.

What you lie about continuously is that doctors would lie for
profit
in such cases. You are sick. A doctor knows that his or her
testimony
can do great harm or great good. The assumption that all doctors
in
that situation are BAD and EVIL and would lie speaks to YOUR
PROJECTION.

Or Doctor Professor Sir Roy Meadows, famous QUACK!

The quack who ruled above all other quacks.

So respectable he was even KNIGHTED!

Whether it's based on Sterling, Gold or just ZEAL,
the harm done is no less.

Thank you for the example. Please name a few more. I find one
single
instance as not being sufficient to damn an entire profession, or
even
all those that testify in child abuse cases.

I don't, for instance, damn all parents because there are a few
sick,
and or stupid, and or criminal, and or insane, and or abusive, and
or
sexual perverted parents out there.

You seem to be unable to discriminate sufficiently to have your
life
sorted out...but we knew that.

How's the can and bottle refunding going? Wanna buy my Blazer?

Hypocrite. You do damn all parents in your vilenesses.

Nope. I've stated again and again I'm against abusers of children. I
am well aware that most folks don't abuse their children.

Still have haven't
learned how to tell the truth, have you?

I keep having to overcome the influence of those on this ng such as
you. There seems to be a strong "contact" low going on. Whatchu usin'
these days?

Ever consider the good people do?

Sure. All the time. I've neighbors, friends, family, whole communities
where child abuse is rare or nonexistent. This ng is about those that
don't, not those that do.

Is there a ng called alt.support.nicemommiesanddaddies? If not why not
start one. We need a laugh, Leakin'

Hey, why don't you send Greg and His family... "fam·i·ly: P
Pronunciation
Key (fm-l, fml) A fundamental social group in society typically
consisting
of one or two parents and their children. Two or more people who
share
goals and values, have long-term commitments to one another, and
reside
usually in the same dwelling place. All the members of a household
under
one roof." (Websters)
...some money to help them out?

Yeah, my cat and dog are a family too. That doesn't give them legal
rights. Note that the definition is not a legal one. And I find it
very hard to see The Whore as a daddy.

Lots of people need help. Given his story here the quicker he gets out
of there the better for all concerned...but him.

Are you aware that where he and is family
live they have the highest unemployment rate in that state?

No. I wasn't aware of that. Is he moving soon? Those mobil homes are
portable yah know.

By the way, when you make stupid claims you really oughta check it out
first.

Iowa is 41st in ranking of unemployment. My own state is higher as are
all the neighboring states. I might just move to Iowa if I needed
work. Hell even your state is 6th to Greegs 41st.

Have a peek, you brilliant dashing devil you:

http://www.dol.state.nm.us/dol_surr.html

Who died and
made you God?

god is dead? I've heard that. A number of folks would disagree. As an
athiest that statement lacks relevance for me. As an ad hom it's
well....ROTFLMAO

I first heard it in 1944 on the playground. Really, that long ago. I
guess really good insults just never fade.... R R R R R R. You break
me up laddie.

Greg is very resourceful,

We've noticed that.

The hooker that walked up to my car window in a major downtown
intersection, after I politely turned down her first offer, asked,
pulling samples from her oversized handbag, if I'd like some nice
lingerie for my wife, cheap.

I told her to go gather cans and bottles for refund.

and unlike you, he cares.

Well, didn't I "care" in the story above? Trying to get someone to do
honest work like your good buddy? Come on, you low rank me so
unfairly...R R R R R

Your
ignorance is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.
lol.

Your ignorance of me and unwillingness to provide proof of your claims
about me is exceeded only by your fabulous job of recovering children
from foster care for their parents.

Tell us the story, will yah, huh? And especially what CPSWatch has you
doing these days. Must be exciting.

Free.

Well, who would pay for you? Even as lowlife a scumsucker as Greegor
is someone is paying money for his favors...or whatever.

What with your state being 6th in unemployment rate you cou....opps!

Oh my goodness.....don't tell me you are also out of work and living
off your ol' lady?

Your good buddy, Kane

On 15 Jan 2004 22:50:47 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
snip

Dan has responded to each of your excuses....and avoidances, like
the
gentleman he is (and I am NOT) yet you still haven't supported your
bogus vicious and libelous claims against him.

Nope not "libelous"...
"li·bel ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbl)
n.
A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that
damages
a person's reputation. The act of presenting such material to the
public."
(Websters)
Whiskey nose Dan isn't a real person.

He is identifiable by both name and location as a real human being of
that name. You are barkin' up the wrong tree, Leakin' or are you
accessorizing...?

Only a really lame electronic
presence (i.e.sock puppet) Of course, if that electronic presence (e.g.
Dan Sullivan) wishes to confront me in court to dispute this...hey the
challenge...is there. (-: Otherwise him and You and your anti-family
cohort thugs...

Please show were, with some varifiable data, either he or I are anti
family. Hell, he'll even help GUILTY FAMILIES and succeeds against
CPS. My record is private and not for your eyes, sicko boy.

can just tyvm cram it someplace the Sun don't shine. (I
think I saw a picture of Waffle hanging out there anyway.) (-;

Ah, it's nice to see the babble again...so like some other folks that
wander in and out of here from time to time while "you," Leaky one,
were "gone."

Let me see now...what is the score again, vis a vis anti family? He's
helped how many get their chidlren back against how many you have?

Enlighten us and tell us of all those you have helped and continue to
help as you labor away with CPSnatch...s`cuse...Watch.


Any particular reason for your reluctance to accuse him again, and
fail to defend your claim about him and his "defense" of CPS?

Put your stop watch away sock puppet, unless...you have decided to
answer
some of the questions put to you?

Sorry. I don't take orders for CPSWatch child and family hating thugs.

Or did somebody die and appoint you God?

Just how deep are you in your cups today, ol' boy? You asked me that
already and I answered. You must have a terribly slow server.

Your ignorance is amusing,

When I am ignorant of something I have the smarts to know it. Yours is
ignorant of your ignorance. Rather common in these ng with you family
haters that pretend to be helping them, while watching them fall by
virtue of following your "advice" then dancing in their blood
screaming "SEE SEE, KILL CPS KILL KILL KILL."

If it wasn't so damaging and painful for the families you hurt it
would be humorous. NOT LOL, as you might notice.

and much like your slip, still showing. Lol.

I am overwhelmed with nostalgia...for the school yard. Haven't heard
these insults for umpteen years now.

"So's yer ol' man," "Yer mother wears combat boots."

Is this the level to which all debate with you is going to
sink......wait, what a silly question. It's never been anything else
but this kind of juvenile babbling from you.

Free...........

......and easy.

R R R R R

Bingo, bango, bongo.

Stoneman

On 16 Jan 2004 00:33:07 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 15 Jan 2004 21:31:49 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 15 Jan 2004 04:09:47 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote:

Kane wrote
There are only so many experts on this issue so they'd be
bound
to
use
one more than once...immediately creating the situation you
THINK
is
taking place...a "relationship" of profit.

What you lie about continuously is that doctors would lie for
profit
in such cases. You are sick. A doctor knows that his or her
testimony
can do great harm or great good. The assumption that all
doctors
in
that situation are BAD and EVIL and would lie speaks to YOUR
PROJECTION.

Or Doctor Professor Sir Roy Meadows, famous QUACK!

The quack who ruled above all other quacks.

So respectable he was even KNIGHTED!

Whether it's based on Sterling, Gold or just ZEAL,
the harm done is no less.

Thank you for the example. Please name a few more. I find one
single
instance as not being sufficient to damn an entire profession,
or
even
all those that testify in child abuse cases.

I don't, for instance, damn all parents because there are a few
sick,
and or stupid, and or criminal, and or insane, and or abusive,
and
or
sexual perverted parents out there.

You seem to be unable to discriminate sufficiently to have your
life
sorted out...but we knew that.

How's the can and bottle refunding going? Wanna buy my Blazer?

Hypocrite. You do damn all parents in your vilenesses.

Nope. I've stated again and again I'm against abusers of children.
I
am well aware that most folks don't abuse their children.

Liar. You abuse children by trying to frame innocent people here in this
NG.

Who have I tried to frame? Greegor? I don't need to do a thing but
invite people to google on him. HE does all the framing of himself,
quite thoroughly.



Still have haven't
learned how to tell the truth, have you?

I keep having to overcome the influence of those on this ng such as
you. There seems to be a strong "contact" low going on. Whatchu
usin'
these days?

Ever consider the good people do?

Sure. All the time. I've neighbors, friends, family, whole
communities
where child abuse is rare or nonexistent. This ng is about those
that
don't, not those that do.

Is there a ng called alt.support.nicemommiesanddaddies? If not why
not
start one. We need a laugh, Leakin'

I don't know Kane, is there? Take a look find out.

As you first.

Who is "we" you and
whiskey nose and Waltz?

Everyone watching you make a fool of yourself....again.

Hey, why don't you send Greg and His family... "fam·i·ly: P
Pronunciation
Key (fm-l, fml) A fundamental social group in society typically
consisting
of one or two parents and their children. Two or more people who
share
goals and values, have long-term commitments to one another, and
reside
usually in the same dwelling place. All the members of a household
under
one roof." (Websters)
...some money to help them out?

Yeah, my cat and dog are a family too. That doesn't give them legal
rights. Note that the definition is not a legal one. And I find it
very hard to see The Whore as a daddy.

You find everything hard 2 c, cause your head is in your crassy
bottom.
Yea, some would argue with you (including myself) about dog and cats
not
having legal rights. Abuse mine and find out what happens to you.

I didn't say they were without legal rights, only that they are not
legally family. You married you dogs and cats? Well, I'm not
surprised.

AS for their "other" legal rights: they have MORE rights than human
children. Give your dog a spanking where the public can see and watch
what happens.

And no, I don't abuse children or pets, just assholes that do. Like
you. Like Greegor. Like The Plant.

Lots of people need help. Given his story here the quicker he gets
out
of there the better for all concerned...but him.

Are you aware that where he and is family
live they have the highest unemployment rate in that state?

No. I wasn't aware of that. Is he moving soon? Those mobil homes
are
portable yah know.

By the way, when you make stupid claims you really oughta check it
out
first.

Iowa is 41st in ranking of unemployment. My own state is higher as
are
all the neighboring states. I might just move to Iowa if I needed
work. Hell even your state is 6th to Greegs 41st.

Have a peek, you brilliant dashing devil you:

hell even my state is 6th to "Greegs" 41st. Doh, got my kidlet in here to
translate for me. Sorry you are wrong again canine. I didn't
post/state:
state, I said where they live, in reference towith-in state,

You just said the area they live in in the state, and though it may be
the highest in THAT STATE, that state does not have high unemployment.

You would claim that you were dying of thirst because you lived in the
driest part of Minnesota, based on your logic.

All he has to do is get up off his ass and travel a bit. We've been
encouraging that for three years...but he's goin' to make a killin'
off CPS when he sues the state of Iowa, right? R R R R R

you're
ignorance is duly noted,

Yeah sure. And duly noted that you have no idea what you are babbling
about as usual. I've missed you.

summarily dismissed.

By you? My pleasure.

Here, you caring soul you.

Please, send your care packages to Greegor the Whore and his SO.

(note the reference to Bangladesh while you are at it) You really do
have a
weasel in your family tree don't ya? Your heart is really cr*p.
http://tinyurl.com/2349m

Heart breaking. So move. He chose to go on three year "Sabbatical" and
become a babysitter cum showboy instead of going were the word was.
Manufactured homes are mobile. And he doesn't even own the one he's
in.

It's a sorry ass that can't get up and move to were the work is that
has zero investment in his present location.

But I'm sure he appreciates your sympathy.

And he could, since he's just on sabbatical, go back to his former
employ and pick right up where he left off. When I went on a six month
sabbatical back in the early eighties I had no trouble returning to
work.


http://www.dol.state.nm.us/dol_surr.html

Who died and
made you God?

god is dead? I've heard that. A number of folks would disagree. As
an
athiest that statement lacks relevance for me. As an ad hom it's
well....ROTFLMAO

I first heard it in 1944 on the playground. Really, that long ago.
I
guess really good insults just never fade.... R R R R R R. You
break
me up laddie.

Liar.

"Who died and made you God" wasn't around when I was a kid? Funny, my
dad told me they used to say that when HE was child.

So I guess me and my dad lied, eh? And you are listening to the echo
up your ass.

If you see a laddie here "knock him down and..." well, you being
McBragg and an 'old' military man knows how that ol' adage goes
right? (-:

No, actually I don't. Only you pretend to know everything, Jr.
McBragg.

Greg is very resourceful,

We've noticed that.

How do you do that? With your head in your bottom?

By what he posts. Don't you?

Let me see now. Check me if I miss anything.

He found a child he could abuse and displace and weasel his way into
her home. So he moved his clutter into her bedroom and pushed her up
on a shelf he calls a sleeping loft. Started spanking her. She started
wetting herself. He punished her with a cold shower or several while
he stood there watching her naked. Did some shower girl head under the
shower shoving, a bit of towelboying for a bright six year old, and
finally had to go to the extreme of either locking her out, or her, in
her fear of him claiming he did.

He got his face busted for his shower room antics I'd bet.

He's fooled her mother in to thinking he's going to make them rich, to
the point he'd had free room and board, minus a few bucks a month from
can and bottle refunding.

And still is getting milk from the cow for free rather than pay for it
by insisting that he won't until the little girl can come home and be
the flower girl. She'll look kinda clumsy doin that at 18, now
don'tcha think?

I'd say that all is pretty darned resourceful, wouldn't you?

Hell, the guy in the story you cited is at least making money
shoveling snow. Now that is a man. Greegor makes his keep...well, R R
R R, the hard way: by lying down.


The hooker that walked up to my car window in a major downtown
intersection, after I politely turned down her first offer, asked,
pulling samples from her oversized handbag, if I'd like some nice
lingerie for my wife, cheap.

Took her up on the second, eh? Wow, you barter..dude.

D'you miss the next line?

I told her to go gather cans and bottles for refund.

Yeah, you did. As usual.

and unlike you, he cares.

Well, didn't I "care" in the story above? Trying to get someone to
do
honest work like your good buddy? Come on, you low rank me so
unfairly...R R R R R

Liar. I am who I am.

Please point out the specific lie you think I told.

I am who I am.

Did I say you weren't who you are? Could you point that out too, when
you pick yourself up off the floor in the morning. You can show me
where I said that, can't you'?


Your
ignorance is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.
lol.

Your ignorance of me and unwillingness to provide proof of your
claims
about me is exceeded only by your fabulous job of recovering
children
from foster care for their parents.

Nope no ignorance of you. Quite the contrary.

So tell me what you know? It'll be nice catching up with myself.

You are a cock-a-roach that
can't spell atheist right kane.

Yah might want to go a little light in pointing out typos and
misspellings, given yours, and the propensity for those with no
argument to devolve into spelling and typo nannies, real quick like.

You hide behind anonymity when you don't
have any reason to. How's that? Why kane, Huh?

"Free" is your real name, right? And all your socks are really you,
right? R R R R

Tell us again about not being able to afford your Internet account and
that's why you were missing. That was just special.

Tell us the story, will yah, huh? And especially what CPSWatch has
you
doing these days. Must be exciting.

If you found out I'm afraid you might try to toss a broomstick in the
spokes Kane. (-:

Translation: "They kicked my ass for being the childish fool I am
'cause they were jealous I beat them out for the title."


Free.

Well, who would pay for you? Even as lowlife a scumsucker as
Greegor
is someone is paying money for his favors...or whatever.

~yawn~

Sure sign someone got to someone....R R R R R.

Now yawn again for me.

What with your state being 6th in unemployment rate you
cou....opps!

You forgot...I'm enlightened and aware,

Mahareshi! We knew you would return. Praise Mahesh Yogi. Got a spare
Cadillac you can lend me.

you're ignorance of me is only
exceeded by your obvious ignorance.

I sure hope so. I have little desire to know more about you given what
you have shared so far.

Oh my goodness.....don't tell me you are also out of work and
living
off your ol' lady?

She isn't old, she is timeless.

A mummy?

And...you...have no "goodness" in your
sorry body.

Aw, now you hurt me feelings. I think I'm going to cry. R R R R
ROLFLMAO.


Your good buddy, Kane

You do know what "good buddy" means in Truck Driver lingo don't you?
No you
prolly don't, sigh You really are iggy, aren't ya? He
http://tinyurl.com/yw4le

Gee, sorry I outed you.

Sorry canine, I have a beautiful family, something
I wish you had.

Your wish was granted years ago.

And I do not wish to be 'any' kind of "buddy" with you.

I know. I am also grateful.

You're boring

You keep responding.

and so are your exceeding long replies,

You keep adding to them.

you may return to your "hookers" now.

I sent her to Iowa to join the bottle and can club. She'll probably
come to Illinois and give you a lession in sculpting too, and give you
the undies I wasn't interested in buying.


Lol.

Littlebit Over Loonie?

Long Out of Luck?

Free.....

....Or for a nickel he'll be your Good Buddy.

Kane

On 18 Jan 2004 05:14:35 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 00:33:07 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 15 Jan 2004 21:31:49 GMT,
wrote:

(Kane) wrote:
On 15 Jan 2004 04:09:47 -0800, (Greg
Hanson)
wrote:

Kane wrote
There are only so many experts on this issue so they'd be
bound
to
use
one more than once...immediately creating the situation
you
THINK
is
taking place...a "relationship" of profit.

What you lie about continuously is that doctors would lie
for
profit
in such cases. You are sick. A doctor knows that his or
her
testimony
can do great harm or great good. The assumption that all
doctors
in
that situation are BAD and EVIL and would lie speaks to
YOUR
PROJECTION.

Or Doctor Professor Sir Roy Meadows, famous QUACK!

The quack who ruled above all other quacks.

So respectable he was even KNIGHTED!

Whether it's based on Sterling, Gold or just ZEAL,
the harm done is no less.

Thank you for the example. Please name a few more. I find one
single
instance as not being sufficient to damn an entire
profession,
or
even
all those that testify in child abuse cases.

I don't, for instance, damn all parents because there are a
few
sick,
and or stupid, and or criminal, and or insane, and or
abusive,
and
or
sexual perverted parents out there.

You seem to be unable to discriminate sufficiently to have
your
life
sorted out...but we knew that.

How's the can and bottle refunding going? Wanna buy my
Blazer?

Hypocrite. You do damn all parents in your vilenesses.

Nope. I've stated again and again I'm against abusers of
children.
I
am well aware that most folks don't abuse their children.

Liar. You abuse children by trying to frame innocent people here
in
this NG.

Who have I tried to frame? Greegor? I don't need to do a thing but
invite people to google on him. HE does all the framing of himself,
quite thoroughly.
Repeat: You are a Liar and a hypocrite.

Facts dude, try to stick to facts.

( : You try to denigrate everyone
that opposes your anti-family Gestapo

Sorry, it's you assholes that are the family destroyers par
excellance'. So tell us, Leakin' how many families have you been
responsible for helping get their children back from CPS? Don't get
writers cramp.

The only denigration I do is to your stupid self serving sick little
selves.

attempts to turn this NG into your
own little anti-family debate circus.

Now that would be a strange claim, now wouldn't it, given the posting
frequency of folks like The Whore and The Plant. In fact 3 years of
posts from a couch creasing asshole living off a child's mother after
displacing that child would certainly qualify as an "anti family"
circus. And more especially the continuous bull**** apologies and
excuses for brutal vicious attacks on children by their own parents in
the form of a Plant and It's Lice is something of a carnival of tears.

Highly humorous McBragg.

I am delighted to bring merriment into the miserable lives of you
twits who hate families and children.

You are a
punk and a humbug.

Ooooo....be careful, or I'll have my dog **** on your leg.

Let people Google on Greg, hey they can Google on me
too! Won't find a damn thing incriminating as much as your lying and
hypocritical obscene ranting and ravings are.

What say we leave that up to them to decide, eh? A man (R R R R) that
moved his **** into a child's bedroom, a child of six or less,
displaced her with her mother, spanked her, punished her with naked
cold showers when she wet herself (a common occurance when a child's
world is disrupted as he did hers), apparently subjecting her to his
vicious animal training mentallity, and finally getting his face
punched by g'pa for whatever went on in the shower, what with
shampooing and towel fetching etc.

Sure let them google up Greegor and read it all in his own words. He
claims others make things up. Well fine. Let people read his own words
and decide for themselves.

As for you....R R R R R.....the jackass of ascps, delusional "Reform
CPS" twits that do more to support the failings of CPS than providing
any real reform. Busy attacking people that are your betters who DO in
fact not only successfuly help people bring their chidlren home BUT DO
MORE FOR CPS REFORM BY JUST A SINGLE CASE THEY'VE WORKED ON THAN ALL
THE BULL**** YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATIONS SHOVEL IN YEARS OF "WORK."

In fact, I'm beginning to
wonder if you haven't been hired by some family rights group just to make
us look better than we already are. ( :

Yes. Check it out. Pohakuyakokane is actually your boss at CPSWatch..R
R R R R R.




Still have haven't
learned how to tell the truth, have you?

I keep having to overcome the influence of those on this ng such
as
you. There seems to be a strong "contact" low going on. Whatchu
usin'
these days?

Ever consider the good people do?

Sure. All the time. I've neighbors, friends, family, whole
communities
where child abuse is rare or nonexistent. This ng is about those
that
don't, not those that do.

Is there a ng called alt.support.nicemommiesanddaddies? If not
why
not
start one. We need a laugh, Leakin'

I don't know Kane, is there? Take a look find out.

As you first.

I don't need a laugh k-9,

Sure you do. Your life is a mess and you are miserable twit, and you
know it but are in denial.

you are my two-legged dog on a unicycle. I like
your hat ( :

Whatever puckers your butt.


Who is "we" you and
whiskey nose and Waltz?

Everyone watching you make a fool of yourself....again.

Repeat: You, whiskey nose and Waltz?

Are we the only ones watching? Fancy that. I've have sworn this was an
unmoderated newsgroup inhabited by a pack of jackinapes that destroy
families regularly by their advice and encouragement while a very few
others actually DO help families.

Which side you on, Fauntleroy?

Hey, why don't you send Greg and His family... "fam·i·ly: P
Pronunciation
Key (fm-l, fml) A fundamental social group in society
typically
consisting
of one or two parents and their children. Two or more people
who
share
goals and values, have long-term commitments to one another,
and
reside
usually in the same dwelling place. All the members of a
household
under
one roof." (Websters)
...some money to help them out?

Yeah, my cat and dog are a family too. That doesn't give them
legal
rights. Note that the definition is not a legal one. And I find
it
very hard to see The Whore as a daddy.

You find everything hard 2 c, cause your head is in your crassy
bottom.
Yea, some would argue with you (including myself) about dog and
cats
not
having legal rights. Abuse mine and find out what happens to you.

I didn't say they were without legal rights, only that they are not
legally family. You married you dogs and cats? Well, I'm not
surprised.

Doh, "That doesn't give them legal rights." Sorry punk, wrong again.
You
gonna try to waffle now, right?

Where did I say, "That doesn't give them legal rights," eh?

I'm very away of the legal rights of animals, and in fact know that
they have one legal right that is superior to human children...you
cannot brutalize them and call it "discipline" and get away with it.

"Spank" your dog or cat publically and watch what it get's yah.

Nice try at reframing, in your lying way, what I actually said. By the
way, how do YOU like it that US law protects animals more than
children?

AS for their "other" legal rights: they have MORE rights than human
children. Give your dog a spanking where the public can see and
watch
what happens.
Yep, I was right, nice waffle try.

Gee, yet another ******** spouting lie. I couldn't have guessed you do
that..nosiree.

And nope they don't have more rights
than 'human' children or any other kind of humans. (you are wrong
again)

The artifice of the feeble of ethics are a sight to be hold. By simply
shifting to the plural you think others will agree that I'm wrong. As
I said, twit, one can spank a child publically and it's legal. One
cannot do so to an animal.

They just have rights.

No, there is one right animals have, legally in this country, and that
is you can be charged with animal cruelty without leaving a single
mark on that animal. You can spank your child, as long as you do not
leave marks, in every state in this land. There is no law against it.

You can humiliate, name call, even refuse a child medical care under
religious grounds in some states.

But animals:

http://www.animal-law.org/statutes/

and get this:

http://www.ddaf.org/beyondviolence/statutes/index.shtml

In addition, courts in the states listed below may order psychological
counseling, or anger management training, for persons convicted of
felony level animal cruelty:

* California
* Colorado
* Florida
* Illinois
* Iowa
* Maine
* Maryland
* Michigan
* Minnesota

* New Jersey
* New Mexico
* Oregon
* Rhode Island
* Tennessee
* Texas
* Vermont
* Virginia
* Washington



And, FYI, I've seen several people discipline their
dogs physically in public, with no consequential retributions from
anyone.

And that proves that most people don't know there are laws. That does
NOT prove the laws don't exist.

One I remember quite well. It was a young man, walking a very
seemingly
hyperactive full grown brindle Bull Mastiff, maybe 150lbs, through
Minnie
Barr Park, in Jacksonville. The Mastiff, spotting a much smaller
Golden
Retriever, being walked by a very sweet looking young lady, in a pink
dress, suddenly made a tremendous lunge breaking the hand strap of
it's
owners cable leash. Me being closest, and having quite a few years
and
experience in animal control and in animal training, very calmly
commanded
my own Terverian to drop. I grabbed the end of the Bull Mastiffs
chain
right before he hit the Golden, and using the proper body language
and
voice control immediately set the dog down. At this time the young
owner
had caught up and struck the beast several times on the end of it's
nose...chiding it angrily.(actually more just upset, I think) I told
him
their really wasn't any need to do that. Then offered the Bull some
water
from the paper cup I had been carrying and managed not to spill one
single
drop. The Young man profusely apologized to the pretty young lady, a
park
police officer that witnessed the whole ordeal, stopped to ask if
everything was OK. He told the man, that he once worked K-9 and
sometimes
had to discipline his own dogs. He also commended me on my quick
actions,
adding that he was hoping he wouldn't have to shoot the dog if I
wouldn't
have been there. OK, so to make a long story short, the guy asked the
girl
if he could buy her lunch to make up for the trouble. She agreed and
said
she was headed for her beach house anyway and would return soon.
Gary, as I
soon discovered his name, and I sat down and I gave him very many
training
tips. My own Terverian had not budged the whole incident. We
exchanged
numbers, and talked quite awhile before Meeshy returned. Since then,
well,
I've been hearing from them every now and then, especially around the
holidays. Both the Bull and the Golden were neutered and are best
friends
now Gary and Meesh? I'm looking at a picture of them and their new
baby
right at this very time. Kane, is that what you meant by "watch what
happens?" Your ignorance is showing.

No, and it has zero to do with what I claimed, that children have one
right denied that dogs and cats enjoy. Children may be disciplined,
even beaten, and in some states in some circumstances the parent will
not be charged with abuse. Even schools may paddle if their state law
allows it...check out Ingram v Wright for the truth on school
paddling.


And no, I don't abuse children or pets, just assholes that do. Like
you. Like Greegor. Like The Plant.

You do abuse.

I know. And more deserving targets I cannot think of. You should see
what I've done to people like you assholes in person.

By the way, thanks for the Heroic story of your life saving and
magnificent dog control ability, Jr. McBragg.

More than anyone I know.

I know. I'm very very proud to have gotten your attention in this
matter. You are a danger to families, as are your ****ant friends in
these ngs that keep trying to lead them away from help to pointless
tilting at windmills while their children are in foster care and they
on the rolls of alleged abuse perps. Yeah, you guys need to be thanked
alright.

I wish you were in jail where you
belong.

I know you do. You could get way with so much more misdirection and
brutal using of hurt families that come here for help.

And it's you that is the a**hole. (-:

Look at you you weinie. Can't even say "asshole" publically. Beautiful
example of your entire persona, vapid, impotent, useless twittery to
the core.

Lots of people need help. Given his story here the quicker he
gets
out
of there the better for all concerned...but him.

Are you aware that where he and is family
live they have the highest unemployment rate in that state?

No. I wasn't aware of that. Is he moving soon? Those mobil homes
are
portable yah know.

By the way, when you make stupid claims you really oughta check
it
out
first.

Iowa is 41st in ranking of unemployment. My own state is higher
as
are
all the neighboring states. I might just move to Iowa if I
needed
work. Hell even your state is 6th to Greegs 41st.

Have a peek, you brilliant dashing devil you:

hell even my state is 6th to "Greegs" 41st. Doh, got my kidlet in
here
to translate for me. Sorry you are wrong again canine. I didn't
post/state:
state, I said where they live, in reference towith-in state,

You just said the area they live in in the state, and though it may
be
the highest in THAT STATE, that state does not have high
unemployment.

Your waffles aren't helping you K-9,

I don't need any help.

it's obvious you are wrong and try to
weasel waffle your way out.

Wrong about what? That The Whore sits on his ass in someone elses home
living off her after having successfully displaced and kept out of the
home her little daughter? That Greegor thinks he's going to get rich
off suing the state and on the flimsy chance he might writes petitions
to the court that would make a Saint sob?

Nobody here buys it, a-hole.

Nobody buys your attempt to legitimize the garbage you and your
cronies try to peddle as CPS reform in these ngs.

You would claim that you were dying of thirst because you lived in
the
driest part of Minnesota, based on your logic.

Your statistics are irrelevant to the driest part of Minnesota, and a
feeble diversionary tactic. It also proves you know very little about
the
economic situation of the nations bread basket. The stats. you
provide are
based on population of those states and the people that are currently
on
the unemployment rolls. The manufacturing Giants have been gone for
years,
those workers have already fell off the list a long time ago. When
farmers
lose their farms, they don't get unemployment. When there are no
jobs, the
stores close down, those people fall off the rolls. Your attempts to
minimize rivals only the Governments. No big surprise.

This has to do with The Whore growing more attached to that couch
sticking out of his butt how again? Real men will even get up off
their asses and go to where the work is and send money home to their
family and move them when they have the resources in the new locale.

I mean after all, it's Greegors "Family," right?

Hell, I've seen hard times when I was a young man with wife and child
and had to do exactly that. Took me from October of one year until May
of the next to get enough together doing sweat labor but I did it, and
gladly.

As I said, the story you cited about how tough things were had men
going out to shovel show...labor...for their families. Greegor
polishes the upholstery on that couch he bought with bottle and can
refunds.

While his SO actually goes to work, and the little girl he used to so
cherrily shower lives with an older couple that are probably on a
fixed and limited retirement income.

He's a slug, a drag on society as well as his "family."


All he has to do is get up off his ass and travel a bit. We've been
encouraging that for three years...but he's goin' to make a killin'
off CPS when he sues the state of Iowa, right? R R R R R

Your stuttering and stammering never has been able to conceal your
weaseling Kane.

Pointing out his use of a child and mother to set up a sting against
the state? Sure, Leakin' you guys are out to reform CPS alrighty.

Why should he have to travel?

To support his alledged "family." Like any decent parent and or
husband would.

Are you going to give him
the job?

I don't have any cans or bottles in my yard, though I do gather the
ones from a few miles of country roads where I live and give the
proceeds to charity. It's my hobby.

Pay his gas?

He can eat beans.

His family's legal fee's?

Oh, you mean the one's HE saddled them with by his own actions? NO,
but thanks. I already have worthwhile charities.

How do you know he's going
to make a killing?

R R R R R...boy, yah sure got me there, Leakin' Yesireebob yah sure
did.

He's never posted anything to that effect.

I can understand how you might have missed that, what with hardly
being able to read his garbage myself what with the neausea and all
where he talks about it blatantly and NEVER MENTIONS the pain he has
brought to the child and her mother.

Do you want to defend, or pretend, that the child would have been
removed without his presence in the household?

He or his
S.O. have never mentioned any thing to that effect in our conversations
together.

Of course not. You are all are such a sterling fellow and he wants to
keep your respect. You might try a google on him and read a few of his
posts. He's even queried the world about how someone, anyone, might
have prevailed in a suit against CPS, looking for details to try and
put his own 'case' together we have to presume, since he wasn't
offering to help someone else.

They want their girl home.

Sucker.

I know someone else, that recently
just got their child back after their years of Hell.

Following the advice of you and organizations that prey on them?

Why do you wish to
begrudge people that, Kane?

On the contrary. Looking at the record of you and your cohorts for the
past couple of years I've posted her, and googling on them from the
years prior I see that NONE OF YOU, with but a single exception,
possibly two or three (the latter being no longer here), have had ANY
SUCCESS WHATSOEVER, and in fact have helped or encouraged peole to
lose their children permanently and their freedom as well.

So basically it comes down to this, worthless drek: go **** up a rope
with your claims I am anti family, or pro CPS.

I've given CPS and or workers, more grief in a day than you have in
years. And helped more families ... hell, I'd only have to help
ONE...than you will in your whole lifetime with your silly assed
tripe.


you're
ignorance is duly noted,

Yeah sure. And duly noted that you have no idea what you are
babbling
about as usual. I've missed you.

I already told you I don't want you to be my good buddy. Knew about
that
eh? (-;

It's so goooood to have you back. The more of you the quicker the
innocent, and sometimes not so innocent, families that come here for
help will spot what the pack of you are about.


summarily dismissed.

By you? My pleasure.

no prob. I'm sure you are some ones "good buddy."

Here, you caring soul you.

Please, send your care packages to Greegor the Whore and his SO.

The only thing I've ever seen Greg ask for is help in getting his family's
situation resolved.

Then you don't google well. He's always snivelin' around whinin' how
tough life is for his "family" while denying his own part in putting
the show together himself.

The only thing I've ever seen you do is huff and puff
and brag, moan, groan, swear and publicly **** your pants in this NG.

Yep. It's been a ball. And devil take the hindmost.

I'll happily do what it takes to steer decent people away from
thinking you assholes have anything but your own self serving in mind
with your advice.

HERE YAH GO FOLKS, BE SURE TO CUT YOUR CHANCES OF PREVAILING AGAINST
CPS....JOIN THE PLANT, THE WHORE, AND THE LEAKIN' DEACON IN THEIR
NEVER ENDING QUEST FOR MORE BLOOD OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

I even respect the guilty that come here for help by pointing out the
truth. All the babble and flash and endless whining twittery of you
simps hasn't gotten a single child home or a single family off the
hook with CPS.

The one source I'm sure of here that has is the one you keep
attacking. You are your own worst enemies. You are even too stupid and
ignorant to figure out how to shut him down.

I am constantly amused at your attempts to.

And saddened by your failure to use what he offers to good end. You'd
rather see families fail than follow his advice. Just so long as your
flacid egos aren't damaged. Pitiful assholes.

(note the reference to Bangladesh while you are at it) You really
do
have a
weasel in your family tree don't ya? Your heart is really cr*p.
http://tinyurl.com/2349m

Heart breaking. So move. He chose to go on three year "Sabbatical"
and
become a babysitter cum showboy instead of going were the word was.
Manufactured homes are mobile. And he doesn't even own the one he's
in.
You have no heart dog. Tell me what "word"

"work." The d and the k are under the opposing middle digits of each
hand on the keyboard, and likely yours. You aren't even bright enough
to figure out a simple typo? **** for brains?

I probably got that old middle finger twitch going just being reminded
of the harm you and your asshole buddies do here. Sorry. R R R R R

are you referring to? Are you
saying Christ isn't in Iowa?

Even a Christian knows better than that. Christ lives in California,
if anywhere....R R R R R, or New York.

And You are lying and wrong again.

Let me see now. What would I be lying about, that "word" was the word
I meant to type, or that I claim Christ doesn't live in Iowa?
snicker

Not all
manufactured homes are "mobile."

This is getting to be a wonderfully success attack on my showing the
depth of my depravity in claiming The Whore is a lazy self serving
piece of drek on the fringe of humanity.

Your arguments are just overwhelming me and soon I will cry
remorsefully and give up my life to follow your lead whereever you
might go, holy one.

You might want to take a look at: 765
ILCS 745/ Which does in part state:"...a dwelling place of one or
more
persons, provided that any such structure served by individual
utilities
and resting on a permanent foundation, with wheels, tongue and hitch
permanently removed, shall not be construed as a "mobile home".
http://tinyurl.com/2lx3e

Gosh, I think I'll just conceed to your superior debate and admit that
he's living in a manufactured home. It Sooooo greatly changes and
justifies his behavior in sittin' in his ass for three years...AFTER
THE CHILD HE STAYED HOME TO BABYSIT IS LONG GONE AND NOT RETURNING.

Many states have very similar laws, Iowa does, I know because I have
been
very instrumental in helping out residents in several parks organize,
establish and initiate their own very successful civil rights
associations.
Looks like you b wrong again punko (-:

Gosh, You're just a wonder you are. Even McBragg couldn't have kept up
with you, bubbah. By the way, your "Ebon" is pretty limp.

It's a sorry ass that can't get up and move to were the work is
that
has zero investment in his present location.

You are just so compassionate (-: the People in the Barrio's, the
Ghetto's,
the Project, the Reservations, they just sorry asses that all they
got to
do is get up and move to where the work is , eh? You are a sorry
lowlife,
you really have my pity.

I had NO idea that Greegor lived in one of those places, and would, by
his race or ethnicity, be discriminated against. Please extend my
apologies to the lazy WHOOOOOOOOORE. thanks Sam

But I'm sure he appreciates your sympathy.

It's sympathy they want or get.

I know...but I'll let you off the hook and not play YOUR silly games
and point out you just made a simple typo and meant to say "It's NOT"

They're looking for help, they want to get
their family together, I'll help him if I can. I don't ask for anything
for that.

"They're looking for help" Right?

Who the hell could help them as long as Greegor is in the household.
The man that showered the child. The man that moved his **** in and
displaced a child from her own bedroom thereby. The man that carried
towels to a bright six year old. The man that was so wise in the ways
of child development that he punished a child for wetting herself by
enforced nudity.

And finally, the man that helped his SO write the infamous "Motion."

You read that lately. It's an easy google. It reads like Greegor was
coached by the likes of you and The Plant...all bluster and threat and
pseudo legalize mumbo jumbo whinery....with ZERO CONCERN FOR THE CHILD
IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.

You people are beyond belief in your self delusions.


And he could, since he's just on sabbatical, go back to his former
employ and pick right up where he left off. When I went on a six
month
sabbatical back in the early eighties I had no trouble returning to
work.

Well Hurrah hurrah for you big boy! It ain't the early eighties anymore is
it?

No, and you seem ignorant of the economy then. Bad memory? The economy
tanked on Reaganomics...or have you forgotten. I was in luxury goods,
imported, and he busted the MFN status allowances, heavy foreign
import tarrifs came into being then...bingo...profits gone. By 89 I
was looking at the mirage from a type of business that had been solid
as a rock for 30 years prior.

You ass pimples are certainly ignorant on top of your stupidity.


http://www.dol.state.nm.us/dol_surr.html

Who died and
made you God?

god is dead? I've heard that. A number of folks would disagree.
As
an
athiest that statement lacks relevance for me. As an ad hom it's
well....ROTFLMAO

I first heard it in 1944 on the playground. Really, that long
ago.
I
guess really good insults just never fade.... R R R R R R. You
break
me up laddie.

Liar.

"Who died and made you God" wasn't around when I was a kid? Funny,
my
dad told me they used to say that when HE was child.

Your lying is genetic then?

I'm sure my Dad just lied to me and I was lying when I shared that
phrase with him. .. stop and think for a moment...easy, big fellah,
don't strain.

I'll help you out. How would he and I both be lying about a phrase YOU
just used that I shared with him 50 years ago? eh? What a maroon.


So I guess me and my dad lied, eh?

Guess so, liar. You know what they say about cap fitting.

Yeah, fifty years ago my dad lied to me about when I told him about
your phrase, "who died and made you god?"

Mmmhmmm...yeah, that's it.

And you are listening to the echo up your ass.

Wow, I have heard of "Bum watcher's, but u b 1st bum listener I ever
heard
tell of. What makes you think people have, how you say..."butt
echo's?"

The daily ascps rumblings from The Plant, The Doananator, The Leaky
One, and A Whore.

If you see a laddie here "knock him down and..." well, you being
McBragg and an 'old' military man knows how that ol' adage goes
right? (-:

No, actually I don't.

Prolly cause you lied about being in military. (-:

Nope. And I still don't recall the phrase. So tell us, what branch of
the military did you serve in where that was the drinking song you
jacked each other off to?

Only you pretend to know everything, Jr.McBragg.

You been reading the cites haven't you? I don't pretend nothing. (Well,
sometimes with my loving children, and more recently with the new Grand
baby)

You admit then that you've never helped anyone get their children back
from CPS? That you and CPSWatch are a pile of noise makin' crap?

Or are you still pretending you are useful?

BTW, I don't believe there is any such verifiable character as a
"Jr.McBragg"

Yeah. I just made that up so you could catch me in a "lie."

You're just weaseling and lying again cuzz you don't like
being nailed as Commander McBragg. (LOL, ol Greg got ya there) I
never
brag, you do. I rarely lie.

R R R R R.

You lie most all the time, bullet.

Let me see now. The story of the dog adventure was just a nice
friendly aside with no brag factors. UmmmmHmmmm...sure, boobbie.

Truth in every syllible. What a trill you gave us all.

Greg is very resourceful,

We've noticed that.

How do you do that? With your head in your bottom?

By what he posts. Don't you?

No, my head isn't in my bottom, yours is in yours.

Then you HAVE read his posts and approve of his actions and "Motions."

I should have known.


Let me see now. Check me if I miss anything.

I'll pass, thanks anyway.

He found a child he could abuse and displace and weasel his way
into
her home. So he moved his clutter into her bedroom and pushed her
up
on a shelf he calls a sleeping loft. Started spanking her. She
started
wetting herself. He punished her with a cold shower or several
while
he stood there watching her naked. Did some shower girl head under
the
shower shoving, a bit of towelboying for a bright six year old, and
finally had to go to the extreme of either locking her out, or her,
in
her fear of him claiming he did.

Nope, this is all according to you and whiskey nose dan's interpretation?

Nope. According to his own words. One can attempt to minimize, but
it's all right there. What WAS he doing spanking someone else's child?
What was he doing punishing a little girl for wetting herself by
making her strip naked and shower in front of him? (She was a bright
six year old...who obviously didn't NEED assistance from a strange
man).

And have you READ the motion?

So tell us, what do you think of the motion and its powerful
persuasive content in effecting the return of the child....oh wait,
the child isn't home yet.

Not what Greg or his So said at all.

His SO has said nothing here. He's chicken **** to let her come here
because he's likely terrified of losing his free ride should she wake
up to what he's done to her on the flimsy grounds that they might one
day sue CPS successfully.

And I know them.

I'll just bet you do.

We've met several
times, they are good honest people.

Oh sure. By YOUR standards.

Can you tell I'm not surprised?

Tell Kane, do you have a web-cam in
their home?

I make NO claims based on directly viewing them in their home. Do YOU?

What brand of web-cam do you find works best for Whore watching then?

Your cheap attempts

I'm not in the least cheap. Nor would I be had I chosen to take up
Greegor's current profession. I wouldn't be a manufactured home on a
couch I bought with bottle and can refund, nor would I have displaced
a child...and trust me, I'd be high high maintenance...but then I
don't suffer from the flaccid ego you twits obviously do.

at innuendo's and profiling is mundane.

You might not have noticed. Others have come here, and in disgust,
after pointing out his sick ways, went away. His very presence here
and his whining self serving twittery is very difficult for decent
folks to tolerate. Me, I've much out livestock pens..so not much
bothers me...hey, I reply to YOUR posts, don't I?

What about the good things they do for each other, the good times they
have as a family, the love they have shared as a family?

He posted those? I missed them. Point me.

Or is it all
black and white?

It's all what HE posts, nothing more. If you, or the Whining Whore,
don't like what people make of what he posts tell him to improve his
story...though it's probably too late now.

Tell the whole truth Kane, the whole truth and nothing
but the truth.

So help me.........let me see now...okay, so help me Hannah, I have
based on what he has posted here.

He's a low rent scumbag that lives off a women whose child he was
instrumental in her losing.

Or maybe you want to tell us his presence had nothing to do with the
removal of the child and her subsequent non-return by the state.

Or that he DIDN'T sabotage the parent training he went to, that he
didn't author the Motion over his SO signature, that he didn't take
extreme risks with his shower room antics.

Please, defend him. Someone has to. Even a Whore deserves some pity
and assist.


He got his face busted for his shower room antics I'd bet.

Where is your proof, you got pictures?

He wrote it here. Pray tell, did he lie?

What makes you think I'd make a
"bet" with a low life scoundrel like you? Ha ha, get a brain.

You apparently have enough cells left after your smokytime to know
that you'd lose. Hence you are very smart not to bet. Nice going. I
knew you could get something right...well, I hoped.

He's fooled her mother in to thinking he's going to make them rich,
to
the point he'd had free room and board, minus a few bucks a month
from
can and bottle refunding.

funny I've never seen any indication of that, nor has she ever mentioned
such.

You don't read his posts, do you now?

I know much more about both of them than you do.

Brand of web-cam please?

Do you honestly think that people such as the Whining Whore are going
to let you see what they are really like? Read his posts dummy.

Of course, that's
because you know nothing at all.

I do NOT have a web-cam in the "manufactured" home where he creases
the couch that's most likely grafted on his butt by now. But I do know
more than "nothing" and what I know is what HE has posted. Read his
post, dummy.

If you are the hero of the western world, and top notch dog handler
you claim, even YOU can figure out what a low life he is.

And still is getting milk from the cow for free rather than pay for
it
by insisting that he won't until the little girl can come home and
be
the flower girl.

I realize that you don't know the difference between a cow and a
bull.

I'm shattered at your low opinion of me.

She'll look kinda clumsy doin that at 18, now don'tcha think?

I think you are going to look silly at 80 when you figure out you been
milking a bull all these years. Don'tcha think?

You are that much in denial are you? You really think he wants that
child home, don't you? You really believe he is just a nice boy on
sabbatical that happened upon a poor lady and her child and everything
went wrong because of a nutty g'ma and the state, don't you?

I'd say that all is pretty darned resourceful, wouldn't you?
Their resourcefulness lies in their ability to keep their children
out of
pervs like you

What would be perverted about me then? That I don't take up showering
the naked six year old girls of others? That I fail to write garbage
Motions and promise ladies I'll get them money from the state? That I
haven't worked in three years while on "sabbatical?"

that claim to be activists

My small efforts are sometimes rewarded with happy families and
children. I don't claim to be that much of an activist. There are
others far more talented and dedicated than I.

but in reality wish more
innocents to harvest for evil intent.

You have your web-cam in MY HOUSE? Or you are lying about what I wish.

So tell me about my reality again. I love a good fanatasy.

So, of all the folks that have come to this ng how many have you
helped get their children home again? Take your time counting.

Hell, the guy in the story you cited is at least making money
shoveling snow. Now that is a man. Greegor makes his keep...well, R
R
R R, the hard way: by lying down.

Citations please?

Yours, dummy. The article you cited. What a maroon.

http://tinyurl.com/2349m

"CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - The hand-lettered sign on Pat Odell's
snow-covered lawn is testament to a man who's trying to reinvent
himself. Snow shoveling, it reads. Light construction. Just call -
cell phone or land line, it doesn't matter. Just call.

BTW, last couple years our snowfall has been few inches
each year.

Cedar Rapids is in Illinois now?

My 4x4 has a nice Western Plow,

You are going to loan it to Greegor then we presume, you paragon of
charitable support of friends....R R R R R

Man-child and I love to push,

****.

just sits there two years in row now.

I know someone in Iowa that could make good money with that.

You really love to show your
ignorance don't ya?(-:

Shall I restrain myself and let that pass, or ... naw, you are toooo
easy. Pass. R R R R R

When I was a young man with a new family nothing could have kept me
home on the couch out of work. I would and did do all kinds of rough
hard dirty labor. My children and wife ate on what I earned, not on
her earnings.

He's a boil on the ass of humanity. And you could lance it if you were
really their friend.


The hooker that walked up to my car window in a major downtown
intersection, after I politely turned down her first offer,
asked,
pulling samples from her oversized handbag, if I'd like some
nice
lingerie for my wife, cheap.

Took her up on the second, eh? Wow, you barter..dude.

D'you miss the next line?

No. You mentioned one item in one very long compound sentence. Unless
these
old eyes are missing a punctuation mark somewhere, that one item was
lingerie. For your wife?

Ignoring, as I pointed out, the next line......

I told her to go gather cans and bottles for refund.

Look, if you are going to be a liar, at least learn to be a good one.


I told her to go gather cans and bottles for refund.

Yeah, you did. As usual.

Nope, you screwed up.

Nope, you lied, as usual.


and unlike you, he cares.

Well, didn't I "care" in the story above? Trying to get someone
to
do
honest work like your good buddy? Come on, you low rank me so
unfairly...R R R R R

Liar. I am who I am.

Please point out the specific lie you think I told.

Come on give me a break, you take your choice it's all lies,
everyone, that
is anybody,

You have this special class of people here then. The "good" people
like The Plant, The Doananator, The Whore that is "everyone, that is
anybody"?

Tsk tsk tsk.

here has called you on your blatant never ending lies weasel.

The insults of you bohunks are as flowers in a summer breeze. I
couldn't ask for more clarity of who and what you are.

Why do you think you are known as the infamous Commander McBragg?
(Damn,
now I got that song going through my head, excuse please, as I slap
in some
Strauss)

I guess 'cause I'm not the artiste and dog trainer and bottle and can
refunder you guys are...oh, and I write lousy humorous "Motions" to
the court. I'm just going to have to live with my shortcomings I
guess...sigh

I am who I am.

Did I say you weren't who you are? Could you point that out too,
when
you pick yourself up off the floor in the morning. You can show me
where I said that, can't you'?

Translate: 'I' am who 'I' am, you are a liar and false electronic
entity.

I checked under the desk, behind the bookcase, and even in the
porcelin when I just went for a pee, and damned if I can find you "'I'
am who 'I' am," in any form but as squiggles on my monitor.

Please make a noise or something so I can locate you and put you back
in our cage with the little wheel. My house hasn't been weasel
proofed.


Your
ignorance is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.
lol.

Your ignorance of me and unwillingness to provide proof of your
claims
about me is exceeded only by your fabulous job of recovering
children
from foster care for their parents.

Nope no ignorance of you. Quite the contrary.

So tell me what you know? It'll be nice catching up with myself.

If that why you run in circles chasing your tail?

No new game in the field. Same old weasels as always. Gee you guys are
tiresome.

I certainly have noticed
after being gone for a while that the NG hasn't changed much.

As a said. And the same old tired lies, and same old three year old
whines from Whores.

Didn't I tell you I was glad to see you back?

And now you disappoint me. I would have thought you'd have dreampt up
some new ploy or gimmick to entertain us. But, sigh, same old ****.

Y'all remind
me of the old Fife and Pierre dog butt sniffing skit by Cheech and
Chong.

Who are they? Oh, wait...yes I remember. Your life role models.
Childish stuff as I recall. But I can understand how hanging out with
Greegor might bring up those old memories of butt sniffing for you.

Going around in the same circles, getting nothing done.

How many have you helped again?

I now Greegor is doing just great these days. The shine on that couch
can be seen all the way to Colorado.

You are a cock-a-roach that
can't spell atheist right kane.

Yah might want to go a little light in pointing out typos and
misspellings, given yours, and the propensity for those with no
argument to devolve into spelling and typo nannies, real quick
like.

You might want to go ... oh never mind. What you dish but can't take?

Help help, I've been cliched to distraction. Somebody. Help.

You hide behind anonymity when you don't
have any reason to. How's that? Why kane, Huh?

"Free" is your real name, right? And all your socks are really you,
right? R R R R

Pretty much so. Our case has been closed well over four years now K-9,

Congrats, Socks.

Shortly after a year (there abouts) I started using my first name, but
everyone kept calling me free, kinda stuck ya know. Just one of those
things. Kind of like they are always going to call you k-9.

It kinda grows on yah after awhile. The insult intent wears off. It
even gets to be something to brag about. In fact, some of the best
"people" I've known were the dogs that owned me over the years.

Not a lie in the lot of them...more than I can say for you and your
little weasel friends.

Yes, "K-9," I rather like that. You don't really know the etimology
off that attempt at insult word, do you? You might look it up.

Tell us again about not being able to afford your Internet account
and
that's why you were missing. That was just special.

Wrong again. You are lying, there isn't any where you can prove I've ever
posted that I lost my Internet Account. Come on liar, prove it. You're
special, and so easy.

Doin the Donanator are yah? Using x-no archive thinkin' it can't be
found or remembered, eh?

Funny what a google on your addy turns up:

"Your search - family - did not match any
messages posted between Dec 15, 2003 and today."

So "free" hasn't really posted to google this past week or two. Hmmm.
how interesting. R R R R R

It's a wonderful ploy, that x-no archive thingie, for those that have
reason not to want to answer for what they post. Yessirree. Now why
would YOU be using it? Hmmmmmmm? I know why The Plant should, the
dummy.

Let me see what MY archives shows...R R R R...there it is.

Wanna play, sucker?

But then, if you weren't away because you couldn't afford the gaff for
your account, why WERE you away for so long, eh? Eh? EH?

Tell us the story, will yah, huh? And especially what CPSWatch
has
you
doing these days. Must be exciting.

If you found out I'm afraid you might try to toss a broomstick in
the
spokes Kane. (-:

Translation: "They kicked my ass for being the childish fool I am
'cause they were jealous I beat them out for the title."

You really aren't smart enough to translate the misspelled four letter
word on crap house walls are you k-9? You don't see me representing
anyone but myself here. Deal with it or frick off. (-:

Gosh, you just happen to have an account with CPSWatch 'cause the
offer to the public such a good deal on dialup, eh? Eh? EH!?

R R R R R R R R R R.....and sorry, my "frick" is busy with other
matters.....R R R R R R R

I notice you didn't answer the question. Where yah been and why yah
back so precipitously? We missed yah, yeah, that's it. We missed yah.


Free.

Well, who would pay for you? Even as lowlife a scumsucker as
Greegor
is someone is paying money for his favors...or whatever.

~yawn~

Sure sign someone got to someone....R R R R R.

No, I quote the 6 y.0. that was translating your gibberish for me. He got
as far as "is someone is" He said: "Dad, that's Bug's bunny talk, "Is you
is or is you is my baby" from Porgy and Bess.

Nice bail out but your chute is stuck in the tail.

I can't take anymore of this
fool." Then he yawned, and I took him in and tucked him in.

Get Greegor the Animal trainer to help you next time. He's an expert
with getting Six year old Girls naked and translating for him.

And after your admonishment me for posting obscenities where children
might read it you let your little six year old read "Kane?"

Tsk, moral giant, tsk. That's NOT what parental supervision is
supposed to be...but it IS consistent with your morals as demonstrated
by all that great help you give families that come here.

Cleaned the archives of all that yet?

Now yawn again for me.

Why, are you hearing butt echoes? Or just experiencing your normal
illusionary specters?

What? What? Oh, excuse me. Just taking a nap. What was it you were
saying?

What with your state being 6th in unemployment rate you
cou....opps!

You forgot...I'm enlightened and aware,

Mahareshi! We knew you would return. Praise Mahesh Yogi. Got a
spare
Cadillac you can lend me.

Oh, OK, not "illusions" "delusions." You were more fun when you were
Geezer, or Lucky Lou.

Nice fellas. Glad to have met them.

BTW is "Mahareshi" in someway related to Maharishi?

Naw. You couldn't even come up to his level of scumbucket. That's why
you're spelled differently.

you're ignorance of me is only
exceeded by your obvious ignorance.

I sure hope so. I have little desire to know more about you given
what
you have shared so far.

Yea, you'd be any body's "good buddy" wouldn't cha?

Nope. That's what I called YOU, first. Remember? Isn't it a shame you
can't x-no archive MY posts, r r r r r.

Oh my goodness.....don't tell me you are also out of work and
living
off your ol' lady?

She isn't old, she is timeless.

A mummy?

Read and weep fool, I'm rich in love, till in love and happily
married,
very happy. And you are lonesome poor pitiful you. Sometimes I feel
sorry
for you.

I'm so pleased for you. But you'd be wasting your sorrow on me. Save
it for your Whore in Iowa.

And...you...have no "goodness" in your
sorry body.

Aw, now you hurt me feelings. I think I'm going to cry. R R R R
ROLFLMAO.

I love clown tears. they are so telling though, of what is really
underneath. Sometimes I feel sorry for you.

Take another pill, snort, or toke. Whatever butters your buns.


Your good buddy, Kane

You do know what "good buddy" means in Truck Driver lingo don't
you?
No you
prolly don't, sigh You really are iggy, aren't ya? He
http://tinyurl.com/yw4le

Gee, sorry I outed you.

No, your sorry I nailed you again with something you Commander should have
(being McBragg) known but didn't. Or sorry that everyone knows you want to
be a "Good Buddy?" Don't matter, it was proved your ignorance is still
showing once more. (-:

Why would I call YOU "good buddy," "dog handler?"

Sorry canine, I have a beautiful family, something
I wish you had.

Your wish was granted years ago.

I don't mean the dogs and cats you been imaginably married to , k-9.

I seem to recall your heartfelt declaration of protectiveness toward
your dogs and cats in a previous post. Your "family" as it were... E E
E E E E

I
mean real people with love in their hearts, and compassion for others.

Talk's cheap. How many have you actually helped again? Or are you
spending all your energy on your friend in Cedar Rapids?

How much financial help have you given him, by the way?

Some call you no-spanked,

Donanating.

but I have a hunch someone beat you very bad.

My goodness, and publically too.

I
hope you someday get over that and grow up.

Sure, boy. Bound to happen someday.


And I do not wish to be 'any' kind of "buddy" with you.

I know. I am also grateful.

Then why did you say you wanted to be my "Good Buddy?" Lying?

Yes. Anything to ease your pain over the loss of the child in the
Greegor "family." I notice how very focused you are on HER feelings
and losses.

Or you are busy with Greegor in the Whinery. Aging.

You're boring

You keep responding.

Always? No, You are wrong.

Did I say "Always"?

Looks like YOU are wrong then, now doesn't it.

and so are your exceeding long replies,

You keep adding to them.

Did not, did too, did not, did too... you get it yet Kane? No i don't
suppose you do. Better go tell your Mom, OK?

And you've added some more. How interesting. My mom says you are a
scum sucker. Damn. She's got a meaner mouth than even me. Don't worry.
I'll protect you.
you may return to your "hookers" now.

I sent her to Iowa to join the bottle and can club.

Iowa Bottle and Can Club collects very rare and valuable antique bottles,

How are they on couches?

I have many myself, very interesting history lessons for the little ones.

I know.

My Lil one found a Warner Safe Cure amber Bitters he is very proud of. You
need the link for the B & C club of Iowa? You just can't get those
blinders off your head can you?

So, that's how Greegor can sit on his couch and afford it. Gosh, I'll
bet I owe him an apology.

She'll probably come to Illinois and give you a lession in
sculpting too,

Oh, so then you knew I was employed? You just lied above?

What a way with the language you have, Leakin'

"Oh my goodness.....don't tell me you are also out of work andliving
off your ol' lady?"
You are a liar Kane. (-:

For askin' a question? You do recognize questions and and their marks,
do you not?

BTW a "Lession?" is that something that was result of taking the
imaginary
Hooker up on her 2nd offer? Like an oozing sore?

Spelling Nazis are the funniest of creatures. They seem only to notice
when they are stuck for any other answer.

and give you the undies I wasn't interested in buying.

I didn't realize they were for you,

Yah gotta learn to snip better if you're going to lie. Hey, you and
The Plant could trade gambits. She could teach you how to ignore ALL
attributions and munge the subject lines and you could teach her now
to avoid those nasty exposures in the archives.

I thought your imaginary hooker wanted
to sell them to you for your cheap wife?

Aaawww...now see what you've done. She was reading over my shoulder
and now she's in tears, rolling on the floor, and I think her ass is
about to fall off R R R R R. I'll not get my breakfast cooked today
and it's all your fault.

I'll have to take her out to make up for the extreme pain you have
caused.....to her ribs.

Lol.

Littlebit Over Loonie?

Lol?

Long Out of Luck?

LOl? YYSSWYAFIYGI & RMMM
http://tinyurl.com/22bhg

You an tell us what you mean, don't be shy. I don't follow folks like
you around to websites. Wanna guess why?


Free.....

...Or for a nickel he'll be your Good Buddy.

Wow, did you have to work hard to get that old Chestnut Good Buddy (of
someone's I'm sure) or did your lying Dad help ya? Prolly.

Well, enough child's play in the school yard. When next we meet it'll
be over a serious debate.

The anticipation is sure to prolong my life....for a very long time.

LOL

R R R R R R R R, right backatcha, "Good Buddy."

Kane